Which view do you hold?

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Was sin forgiven the moment Christ died on the cross, or was it after he was raised on the third day? I've seen scripture supporting both sides of this argument.
My present perspective is that, ever since Adam, sin has always been forgiven as soon as a person decides to trust God and sets their heart to please Him as Lord. Jesus’ death at a particular place and time was to demonstrate His love for us by going through with us our trauma at failing to meet adequate standards so that we will be able to trust that He has always been dying for us to put out failures behind us, and to walk with and serve Him without fear. The good news of the cross is supposed to enable us to walk in forgiveness toward ourselves, and towards others (including God).
 
My present perspective is that, ever since Adam, sin has always been forgiven as soon as a person decides to trust God and sets their heart to please Him as Lord. Jesus’ death at a particular place and time was to demonstrate His love for us by going through with us our trauma at failing to meet adequate standards so that we will be able to trust that He has always been dying for us to put out failures behind us, and to walk with and serve Him without fear. The good news of the cross is supposed to enable us to walk in forgiveness toward ourselves, and towards others (including God).
Can you remind me what is written about The second Adam
 
Can you remind me what is written about The second Adam
The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit".
I'm pretty sure Paul laid it out much better Paul explains that just as men bear the image of the "earthly man" (physical life and death), those who follow Christ Anointing by Holy Spirit will bear the image of the "heavenly man Son of Man ,Jesus" through the birth earth belly aka """?resurrection?.
the message is within topic because this sin forgiveness All starts and Ends
 
your question
So you think Christ needed you to repent for Him to fulfill His mission on the Cross?

I did not understand the question it was not clear, this is-- The question was when did Christ accomplish forgiveness, in His death or His resurrection.
His death paid our debt for our sins
But without His rising from death to eternal life we would have no hope of eternal life. that is a paraphrase from Paul.
for our sin to be paid is required, but if Christ had not been raised to Spirit Life, then neither would we rise from death.

Still you go off track. The question originally was about forgiveness. Is it to be found in Christ's death or the resurrection? Why are you talking about eternal life?

Just go back, read the OP then look at my answer in respect to the correct question. You will realise repentance or eternal life are not the issues being discussed.
 
Still you go off track. The question originally was about forgiveness. Is it to be found in Christ's death or the resurrection? Why are you talking about eternal life?

Just go back, read the OP then look at my answer in respect to the correct question. You will realise repentance or eternal life are not the issues being discussed.

you need better structured questions
 
Can you remind me what is written about The second Adam
15:47 ὁ πρῶτος ἄνθρωπος ἐκ γῆς χοϊκός ὁ δεύτερος ἄνθρωπος ἐξ οὐρανοῦ
The first man was out of the ground, made of earth; the second man was out of heaven.
 
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Why Old news two Adams that all done" it is finished " not my word I'll be like the rest and be ashamed of the gift
 
you need better structured questions
Was sin forgiven the moment Christ died on the cross, or was it after he was raised on the third day? I've seen scripture supporting both sides of this argument.
When was Adam forgiven? When he transgressed God’s commandment, God did not withdraw from Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve withdrew from God. Although God knew Adam had sinned, He gave Adam and Eve garments to assuage their shame so that they would feel more comfortable in His presence. It looks to Me like God forgave Adam as soon as He sinned, because God is good. But Adam thought God was going to berate him, because now Adam had the idea that now He knew good and evil existed, and his own opinion of what a good God would think and do would be correct. But his idea of the good thing to think and do was not the same as God’s. God did not demand an apology or penance. He gave grace and forgiveness. But mankind's new-found confidence in his own supposed ability to discern accurately between good and evil was going to make life much harder for mankind. He was going to trust in his own ideas of “good farming practices" "good parenting”"good social structures” etc. and go down many false trails that would produce unintended consequences that would cause much suffering, pain, guilt and regret.

The problem is not that God is withholding forgiveness, but that healing only comes from realigning our hearts with God, and man is unwilling to surrender His own determination of right and wrong to God, and he is unwilling to do things God’s way, so he keeps getting negative consequences and judges that "God must be not be merciful and good as people say He is”; or “There is no God, and everything is just subject to random chance”; … or some other false judgment of God.

Psa 51:16
Certainly you do not want a sacrifice, or else I would offer it; you do not desire a burnt sacrifice.
Psa 51:17
The sacrifices God desires are a humble spirit - O God, a humble and repentant heart you will not reject.
 
When was Adam forgiven? When he transgressed God’s commandment, God did not withdraw from Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve withdrew from God. Although God knew Adam had sinned, He gave Adam and Eve garments to assuage their shame so that they would feel more comfortable in His presence. It looks to Me like God forgave Adam as soon as He sinned, because God is good. But Adam thought God was going to berate him, because now Adam had the idea that now He knew good and evil existed, and his own opinion of what a good God would think and do would be correct. But his idea of the good thing to think and do was not the same as God’s. God did not demand an apology or penance. He gave grace and forgiveness. But mankind's new-found confidence in his own supposed ability to discern accurately between good and evil was going to make life much harder for mankind. He was going to trust in his own ideas of “good farming practices" "good parenting”"good social structures” etc. and go down many false trails that would produce unintended consequences that would cause much suffering, pain, guilt and regret.

The problem is not that God is withholding forgiveness, but that healing only comes from realigning our hearts with God, and man is unwilling to surrender His own determination of right and wrong to God, and he is unwilling to do things God’s way, so he keeps getting negative consequences and judges that "God must be not be merciful and good as people say He is”; or “There is no God, and everything is just subject to random chance”; … or some other false judgment of God.

Psa 51:16
Certainly you do not want a sacrifice, or else I would offer it; you do not desire a burnt sacrifice.
Psa 51:17
The sacrifices God desires are a humble spirit - O God, a humble and repentant heart you will not reject.
Not reading all that sorry I'm about done here I did all was ask to do thanx
 
Was sin forgiven the moment Christ died on the cross, or was it after he was raised on the third day? I've seen scripture supporting both sides of this argument. What's the question really about ?scriptures tells God can't Look on Sin.The Cup of Sin Jesus cried out my God why have you forsaken me.rught there Sin was on the cross.Know it written God Took away Our Sin like it never happened.So your question is not backed I would say to contruct a solid reply. Final sacrifice is Not forgiven taken Away ,is my final answer
 
You're not saying that to me are you? I don't know what it is . won't see me blocking a bridge for hostage cash
 
I dont feel love of the Anointing here .u do this for debt notes? The troll I see is revealed now in
 
Which scripture do you have in mind for that claim?
Habakkuk 1:13
You are of purer eyes than to behold evil, And cannot look on wickedness. Why do You look on those who deal treacherously, And hold Your tongue when the wicked devours A person more righteous than he?

Do we have a troll?
That I cannot answer but if you think it a possibility, there is only way to deal with a troll .... ignore.
 
Idk just share some music mostly today I'm not even sure what this topic is or what the end reveal He moving me today a bit on fire all I know thanx