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Luke 24
44Jesus said to them, “These are the words I spoke to you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about Me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms.” 45Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures.

46And He told them, “This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, 47and in His name repentance andd forgiveness of sins will be proclaimed to all nations, beginning in Jerusalem. 48You are witnesses of these things.

I took special note of this context earlier and, whenever I find myself doing that, I wondered where it might fit within these discussions.

Other than a footnote (d) that some translations say repentance for, rather than and, there's no cross reference for verse 46 that is otherwise usual whenever we encounter a "it is written" reference. But here, Jesus is summarizing the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms.

And 1Jn 1 declares 'the Word of life' and 'Walking in the Light," where 1Jn 1:7 tells us, "Butb if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin." And this is followed with vv. 8-10

8If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us.

That is, "if we say we have no sin... His word is not in us" and so we are not walking in the light nor have fellowship with neither one another, nor the Father and His Son Jesus Christ as 1Jn the context of 'the Word of life' tells us:

1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our own eyes, which we have gazed upon and touched with our own hands—this is the Word of life. 2And this is the life that was revealed; we have seen it and testified to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life that was with the Father and was revealed to us.

3We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And this fellowship of ours is with the Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ. 4We write these things so that oura joy may be complete.


An interesting observation is that it seems that 'this fellowship of ours' isn't quite complete until everyone in it receives this Word of life. :unsure:
 
As I consider those things I wrote above, the passage of Jesus appearing among His disciples after his resurrection comes more clearly to me. When Jesus breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven, and whose sins you retain are retained."
 
Yeah He was showing the Anointing Amplified not the same shared outword only to say to separate the two different anointings Jesus anointing before the crucifixion for disciples was different . they did not receive the holy spirit yet when he breathed on them he was preparing them and not much more written after that. Remember the disciples and about 5,000 people were Told to stay at that place till the Holy Spirit came into them.yes same holy Spirit give us the same power to forgive and bind this is all from with me lmk if in line kindly thanx
 
You know I have no clue the topic I can't follow stuff or reckin the exact scriptures posted mixed looks to me but that fine np here. What I want to say is the disciples when they walk with Jesus ministry they had all power and authority yet not have the Holy Spirit Within. With much speaking with the Lord in me he showing me that they operating from his Authority The Anointing aka the Christ you may not find that plainly written anywhere that's how he works in me . The gospel is an everlasting gospel it means it's alive and and growing with having others in it with him & probably won't find much on that neither because come from how I hear him and it doesn't come out as nonsense if hear what is said it's same holy Spirit that raised Jesus to the new. He has Not stop working he work through
Hs those like myself. This is Joy Glory Love all God wisdom knowledge understaning there for us let the gospel grow His work inside anyone he wants to at least one thing known the gosoel is also everlasting that you can find I'm sure I don't read Bible so fig that out I share what I hear as spirit actually repeat in real time from the throne you can find that too in the book .I'm like this 43 years and he can take me at any moment
 
Only light I know is Jesus and Holy Spirit within those that received Him thats the foundation corner Stone to build fellowship with Jesus the father and All cleansed sinners by Holy Spirit ,is The only way ! that I'm sure is what written even above .
 
I'm Not sure but knowing Him we put this out Hete
.The nation priests leaders etc. knew one was to come to complete the true sacrifice he was called a messiah &was to come Amazing the Samaritan Lady at the well knew this she Gave him The translation Christ shall come.
"Note that's a great story in Holy Spirit"
To get to the point
Jesus opening their eyes to the scriptures and telling them things they may already known heard BUT Seeing Him and Knowing Jesus & operated in Jesus Love Anointed Dominion etc They Are "The Witness"To the World. To All That was written of Jesus .
Now we can share in Them !
 
Start with Sin I can hear Mary say I to am in need of a Savior .This is a ez way to know that You me anybody that know They are in need of a Savior Know They Have Sin .Now to hear Jesus say receive Holy Spirit and You have authority to forgive and bind Sin and I add much More. Thing is People can't Hear Jesus say Receive The Holy Ghost .its rt. there but Note they Did Not Receive The Holy Ghost at that moment in Time ! Behold!! Stop ponder reflect... rt there is all the answers you will ever Need and now we fellowship In Him, God is Love
As I consider those things I wrote above, the passage of Jesus appearing among His disciples after his resurrection comes more clearly to me. When Jesus breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven, and whose sins you retain are retained."
 
Luke 24
44Jesus said to them, “These are the words I spoke to you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about Me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms.” 45Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures.

46And He told them, “This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, 47and in His name repentance andd forgiveness of sins will be proclaimed to all nations, beginning in Jerusalem. 48You are witnesses of these things.

I took special note of this context earlier and, whenever I find myself doing that, I wondered where it might fit within these discussions.

Other than a footnote (d) that some translations say repentance for, rather than and, there's no cross reference for verse 46 that is otherwise usual whenever we encounter a "it is written" reference. But here, Jesus is summarizing the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms.

And 1Jn 1 declares 'the Word of life' and 'Walking in the Light," where 1Jn 1:7 tells us, "Butb if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin." And this is followed with vv. 8-10

8If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us.

That is, "if we say we have no sin... His word is not in us" and so we are not walking in the light nor have fellowship with neither one another, nor the Father and His Son Jesus Christ as 1Jn the context of 'the Word of life' tells us:

1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our own eyes, which we have gazed upon and touched with our own hands—this is the Word of life. 2And this is the life that was revealed; we have seen it and testified to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life that was with the Father and was revealed to us.

3We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And this fellowship of ours is with the Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ. 4We write these things so that oura joy may be complete.


An interesting observation is that it seems that 'this fellowship of ours' isn't quite complete until everyone in it receives this Word of life. :unsure:
Jesus open their eyes to understand The word written already say . This then went into the New covenant. Jesus breathe on them and Said receive the Holy Spirit thats the sealing of The Word & The Word of God they Seen in scripture and The Word Jesus They touched Jesus with their own Hands, Heard with their own Ears & Saw of Heaven their Own Eyes maybe times Two also in Spirit . that How it works in or for me .
Free The Fire, In Me ! words for today and Ever More
 
i believe the moment Jesus died on the cross is the event in which sins are forgiven. i never read anything in the Bible that says otherwise. i didn't look it up either.
 
My view is All That Is Written Jesus Fulfilled.I suppose I should say Jesus Son of man .The rest is gathering what is His .The world is lost in still in it so By His Holy Spirit I we strive on To be With The Gloried Son of Man. Jesus
Not trying to make it hard to receive it's is very simple once get in the Gospel and please get to the water of Life maybe to get pic in Rev it's another Seal say The Water flows from the Throne and The Tree of life is on Both Banks.Holy Spirit in me leading me Their hope only just to see you All there
 
i believe the moment Jesus died on the cross is the event in which sins are forgiven. i never read anything in the Bible that says otherwise. i didn't look it up either.
Idk what this reply is for? looks like another thread ?
yep He Is Love lay down for your Friends
 
i believe the moment Jesus died on the cross is the event in which sins are forgiven. i never read anything in the Bible that says otherwise. i didn't look it up either.
I love renewing of the Mind And changing of the heart By my Spirit says The Lord's
 
i believe the moment Jesus died on the cross is the event in which sins are forgiven. i never read anything in the Bible that says otherwise. i didn't look it up either.
Wonder where the sin actually went to? The earth opened up hot down there burn sin up. I say this cus all sin forgiven sacrifices theyburned the offering.jedus case He was not burned like pre offerings etc.I also know Jesus took a stroke to Hell not bad place live sins of the world behind .but bottom line Jesus did it All !perfect Will of God And All Glorified In .We need just To Live By His Spirit within Life in The New we not mend to know everything The what the Holy Spirit reveals in his timing there's lot things of Him heaven he wants to showcase but he still just pacing waiting on uS to get past whatever it is holding back please know !He pacing back and forth and the Angel are idle" actually trying to figure out what you're doing" I can see if you shout out Jesus the angels will standard attention waiting on you to speak the word of God
 
Do your best to figure the typos leave sin in hell Jesus not jedus more? Forget chk it
Sorry. God is so good to me hear the crucifixion was a murder . The was not Of the people nation A sacrifice to God.
Jesus God took it apon Himself to be the Perfect Sacrifice .why cus He gave them the power to crucify Him. Lay down His life flesh son of man
.btw Jesus Loves that Title Son of Man that saying put myself right in Him .Enjoy to Fullness of Him Alone

from my shared view of Gospel heaven and Earth
 
Disagree. Christ's death on the Cross dealt with everyone's sins whether they repent or not. Our believing in Christ (specifically the Gospel) is what places us into that place of Holiness (which is Christ) by the grace of God whereby we can work out the salvation He has given us and grow to maturity, the full stature of Christ.

God got action, in Christ. It is His action on the Cross that is the only effective means by which our sins are dealt with. Believe it or not.

I see what you are saying, so using your logic and reasoning, that would mean Hitler and all like him will be given eternal life and be in God's kingdom.

do you suppose pedophiles that raped to death little babies are forgiven and are saved and will be in the first resurrection as well?

If as you say all their sins are paid for by Christ death then they should be in the first resurrection,
are there any other requirements?
 
I see what you are saying, so using your logic and reasoning, that would mean Hitler and all like him will be given eternal life and be in God's kingdom.

do you suppose pedophiles that raped to death little babies are forgiven and are saved and will be in the first resurrection as well?

If as you say all their sins are paid for by Christ death then they should be in the first resurrection,
are there any other requirements?
Sorry I'm in God rt now I can't go anywhere near that let's just put it as an offer to remove your debt the debt is not paid until you receive acepty The offer
end there please. Move on to God is Love leads to river and tree of life
 
look at the thread title & question , page 1.
I went through it today with what you put up im sure u can see we address alot stuff from passages few replys actually luke says it all plain to me open to see scriptures not read story book . Just got 2 stop behold what the writer says in how he knew Jesus I would hope all know Jesus