Who is an anti-christ?

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Hello Friends,

Here's an important element to the "antichrist" issue...

1. Antichrist is the spirit of sin/lawlessness (2 Th. 2:3).
2. Jesus Christ teaches OBEDIENCE to law (Mt. 4:4; 5:19; 7:21-23; 23:2-3,23,34; Lk. 10:25-28).
3. Lawlessness entails Torah-lessness.

CONCLUSION: Jesus Christ teaches Torah-obedience. Antichrist opposes Torah-obedience.

And our Christian establishment is inclined to reject Torah-obedience at various points....

Sigh...

Something is WRONG with this picture!

Let's expose the spirit of antichrist for what it is: the spirit of OPPOSITION to growth in obedience to Torah.

Sadly, many among us, even here, oppose obedience to the very Torah which the Father, Son, Spirit, Pentateuch, Prophets, Psalms, Proverbs, Apostles, and Epistles, (even Revelation!) all instruct us to obey.

Can we work together to correct this problem?

blessings...
BibleGuy

I don't understand.
What exactly does it mean to obey the Torah?
You mean you obey all the Laws in the first 5 books of the O.T. ?
ALL of them?


Fran
 
I don't understand.
What exactly does it mean to obey the Torah?
You mean you obey all the Laws in the first 5 books of the O.T. ?
ALL of them?


Fran

"Law-keepers" need to water down the Law in order to make it "doeable" but in effect are breaking it every day.

I wonder what happens when we fail to do one aspect of the law as James says? Thank God that Jesus fulfilled the law for us and now we are in Him and we live by the law of love, the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, and the law of life, the law of faith, the law of liberty in Christ - the law of Christ Himself.

James 2:10 (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.


 
"Law-keepers" need to water down the Law in order to make it "doeable" but in effect are breaking it every day.

I wonder what happens when we fail to do one aspect of the law as James says? Thank God that Jesus fulfilled the law for us and now we are in Him and we live by the law of love, the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, and the law of life, the law of faith, the law of liberty in Christ - the law of Christ Himself.

James 2:10 (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.



Yes. I'd say the Laws have to be watered down A LOT!
It would be interesting to get an answer from BibleGuy.

I'm thinking of Leviticus and Deuteronomy.
Do they have a List of Rules??

It must be a pretty long list!!
And one which CANNOT be kept.

Anyway, Jesus eliminated the Civil and Ceremonial Law and only the Moral Law was kept.
We do have to keep the moral Law, but not in the same sense as in the Old Covenant.
Jesus IS the New Covenant.

Fran
 
A few indicators...

2 Thessalonians 2:4,9-11 KJVS
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[9] Even him , whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, [10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

SOmetimes I can feell ike I am almost an antichrist, sitting in the temple (my body), exalting myself as if I am God by looking down on "these other men who, thank GOd I am not like." Thinking myself so holy and humble because I have such knowledge (even though it isn't really of any worth if I don't put that knowledge into practice in real time experience.) Having a small victory over my pride, by His grace, and thinking this means it is MINE now, never to be lost, and then someone presses hard on me and I find I still have so much vomit in me which spills out...aand then He pulls me down from my lofty throne until the next time I decide to climb back up to the height and be over God.

Sometimes I wonder, oh, what will He ever do with me...? The smallest bit of knowledge, a grace, and my crowing and climbing begins again and I forget my weakness.
 
Yes. I'd say the Laws have to be watered down A LOT!
It would be interesting to get an answer from BibleGuy.

I'm thinking of Leviticus and Deuteronomy.
Do they have a List of Rules??

It must be a pretty long list!!
And one which CANNOT be kept.

Anyway, Jesus eliminated the Civil and Ceremonial Law and only the Moral Law was kept.
We do have to keep the moral Law, but not in the same sense as in the Old Covenant.
Jesus IS the New Covenant.

Fran

I agree...I don't need to "keep" Lev. 18:23 to tell me not to have sex with animals. I'm sure that the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus would be able to direct me in that.
 
:smoke: how about this
:read:
Proverbs 30:17
The eye that makes fun of a father and hates to obey a mother will be plucked out by ravens in the valley and eaten by young vultures.
18*Three things are too amazing to me, even four that I cannot understand:
19*an eagle making its way through the sky, a snake making its way over a rock, a ship making its way through high seas, a man making his way with a virgin.
20*This is the way of a woman who commits adultery: She eats, wipes her mouth, and says, "I haven't done anything wrong!"
21*Three things cause the earth to tremble, even four it cannot bear up under:

:8) is there anybody here who knows the very meaning of those proverb este words
from the holy scripture :hrmm:

:whistle: we just want to ask (for :now: )
so that we could also learn from what is written
that cannot be bought by any treasure here in this world

:takbo: nothing more nothingless ... .

:ty:

godbless us all always