Who is Babylon? (poll)

[dkontner]

Jerusalem hills

The northern summit is called Scopus
The middle summit was called Nob
The highest point of Olivet itself, and the southern summit was called in the Holy Scriptures the "Mount of Corruption" or "Mount of Offence" (II Kings 23:13).
On the middle ridge between the Kedron and the Tyropoeon Valleys there was (formerly) in the south "Mount Zion" (the original "Mount Zion" and not the later southwest hill that was later called by that name),
The "Ophel Mount"
To the north of that the "Rock" around which "Fort Antonia" was built
And finally, there was the southwest hill itself that finally became known in the time of Simon the Hasmonean as the new "Mount Zion."

 

[God-fearing]

Jerusalem hills

The northern summit is called Scopus
The middle summit was called Nob
The highest point of Olivet itself, and the southern summit was called in the Holy Scriptures the "Mount of Corruption" or "Mount of Offence" (II Kings 23:13).
On the middle ridge between the Kedron and the Tyropoeon Valleys there was (formerly) in the south "Mount Zion" (the original "Mount Zion" and not the later southwest hill that was later called by that name),
The "Ophel Mount"
To the north of that the "Rock" around which "Fort Antonia" was built
And finally, there was the southwest hill itself that finally became known in the time of Simon the Hasmonean as the new "Mount Zion."

Good reach but all were found scriptural, the text includes we are discussing says fornication which is in this context is idle worship.
Blasphemies and such. Which points to pagan worship.
Let's compare your findings with mine.

The seven hills of ancient Rome—Aventine, Caelian, Capitoline, Esquiline, Palatine, Quirinal, and Viminal—are iconic ridges east of the Tiber River, serving as the foundational sites of the early city. These hills were originally separate settlements that merged into a single entity, traditionally enclosed within the Servian Wall.

The Seven Hills of Rome

• Palatine Hill (Palatino): Known as the center of the earliest settlement, traditionally founded by Romulus in 753 BC.
• Capitoline Hill (Campidoglio): The citadel of Rome, hosting major temples like the Temple of Jupiter.
• Aventine Hill (Aventino): Historically linked with the plebs (common people) and known for its temples.
• Caelian Hill (Celio): Served as a residential area in the early period and a military area later.
• Esquiline Hill (Esquilino): The largest hill, famous for housing Nero's "Golden House".
• Quirinal Hill (Quirinale): Historically associated with the Sabines and now home to the Italian presidential palace.
• Viminal Hill (Viminale): The smallest hill, known for containing the Baths of Diocletian.
  
  
  Britannica +4

Key Historical Context

• Founding Site: The Palatine Hill is believed to be the spot where Romulus killed Remus and founded the city.
• The Septimontium: These seven hills should not be confused with the ancient Septimontium festival, which originally celebrated seven different peaks.
• Other Hills: Major hills such as the Janiculan, Vatican, and Pincian are not included in the traditional seven because they were outside the original, sacred boundary (pomerium) of the city.

In the time of John Rome was the ruler over all the land in his viewpoint... which matches the what was...is not .....still to come.

Also included is drunk by the blood of the saints. Who started the rumor that jews killed and ate Christians?
But lest nor forget Rome killing Christians by the thousands.

 

[lrs68]

Ancient Persia (Tyre, Babylon, Iran)

2 And he cried with a mighty voice, saying, Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, and is become a habitation of demons, and a hold of every unclean spirit, and a hold of every unclean and hateful bird.


Babylon is where Satan set up his earthly kingdom.
Obviously, that not Israel.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Now if someone can name the 7 hills in Jerusalem? We'll be all set.
Out of all the great kingdoms Rome was never conquered. It was broken apart.
The woman rides the beast...(takes control of the system) to further her agenda. Bringing back paganism.
Rcc has killed more Christians than any other nation or cult combined. (Drunk on the blood of the saints.)
The beast devours the woman in the end. (AntiChrist).
John refers to.... which was...which is not...which is again....in John's day Rome was in charge of all of the earth as he saw it.
Rcc will be all inclusive bringing back popularity among the people. The description of colors and golden cup of blasphemy points to the rcc clergy and rituals.

Just saying.

There are 7 ‘letters to 7 churches 7 spirits before the throne , 7 golden candlesticks , 7 lamps ,7 stars , 7 angles , 7 flames of fire of 7 lamps , 7 horns on a lamb with 7 eyes …. A book with 7 seals , opened by this risen lamb with 7 eyes which are 7 spirits of God sent into the earth …..there are 7 trumpets blown by seven angels who come out of the temple in heaven, 7 seven vials , 7 last plagues ….7 heads on a dragon , 7 heads on a beast , with 10 horns but later in the apacalypse 3 of the 10 fall leaving …..7. There are 7 hills 7 kings there are “ seven times “ because 3 and a half times plus 3 and a half times is …..7 times…..and this is just maybe half of the 7s in the theme of johns apacalypse

my point is maybe the number 7 is part of the apocalypse and not so much about the number seven . Maybe seven represents something or someone ?Maybe 7 is part of the theme of johns apacalypse and has rooted and deep biblical meaning ? …. Rather than counting hilltops or dragons heads or vials being poured out , literally . Maybe the rest of the Bible makes sense of what John is seeing in his apocalyptic vision just a thought

 

[God-fearing]

There are 7 ‘letters to 7 churches 7 spirits before the throne , 7 golden candlesticks , 7 lamps ,7 stars , 7 angles , 7 flames of fire of 7 lamps , 7 horns on a lamb with 7 eyes …. A book with 7 seals , opened by this risen lamb with 7 eyes which are 7 spirits of God sent into the earth …..there are 7 trumpets blown by seven angels who come out of the temple in heaven, 7 seven vials , 7 last plagues ….7 heads on a dragon , 7 heads on a beast , with 10 horns but later in the apacalypse 3 of the 10 fall leaving …..7. There are 7 hills 7 kings there are “ seven times “ because 3 and a half times plus 3 and a half times is …..7 times…..and this is just maybe half of the 7s in the theme of johns apacalypse

my point is maybe the number 7 is part of the apocalypse and not so much about the number seven . Maybe seven represents something or someone ?Maybe 7 is part of the theme of johns apacalypse and has rooted and deep biblical meaning ? …. Rather than counting hilltops or dragons heads or vials being poured out , literally . Maybe the rest of the Bible makes sense of what John is seeing in his apocalyptic vision just a thought

Hi Pilgrimshope read my post #12 .....for got to include 7. the numbers are a different language.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Hi Pilgrimshope read my post #12 .....for got to include 7. the numbers are a different language.

I’ll give it a read thanks and god bless

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Babylon is where Satan set up his earthly kingdom.
Obviously, that not Israel.

Not yet...

 

[Ezekiel184]

Jesus ben Ananias: “A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against this whole people!”

Jesus ben Mariam: “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you.”

 

[Ezekiel184]

Babylon, the Queen of the World. The Beauty of the World. Babylon, the Most Powerful of the World. Babylon, the Source of Prosperity.
Who is Babylon?

 

[Ezekiel184]

Who is the woman who rules the world? Who is the woman who sits upon the beast? Who is Babylon the Mighty, the beautiful woman? Babylon is a very beautiful woman. Many men slept with her. Who is she? Who is wise enough to know who she is.

 

[Ezekiel184]

Some say she's Jerusalem (Judaism). Others say she's Rome (Catholicism). Still others say she's Mecca (Islam). I guarantee you, one of the three is Babylon. But I want to test you. I want to know who is wise enough.

 

[Ezekiel184]

O Babylon. Your prosperity and your beauty and your wine has made the world drunk. But who is Babylon?

 

[Ezekiel184]

People call her the greatness of the world, the glory of the world, the queen of the world. But who is she? I want to touch her not.

 

[Ezekiel184]

Jesus ben Ananias.
Jesus ben Mariam.

 

[Ezekiel184]

Babylon is a very beautiful woman.

 

[Ezekiel184]

Babylon is the Queen of the World. She is the Mother of the World. She is the source of prosperity. Babylon the Great, Babylon the Great.

 

[Rondonmon]

Who do you think Babylon is from the Book of Revelation?

The poll doesn't have the correct answer, its pretty simple, but complex to those who are not studious on prophesy, or called to that gift.

Babel = Confusion right? Who confuses the Nations? What does God Himself call Babylon the Great?

Rev. 19:1 And the great city(Jerusalem/Second Coming) was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell(MANY Nations or all nations, they used to be City States): and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

So, all we have to do is look back to Vial #6 to see who came against God/Jesus at Armageddon, to understand whom God is calling Babylon the Great whom Jesus just defeated, giving Babylon Good's Wrath. And in vial #6 it says that Satan, the AC and False prophet sent out three lying spirits to go unto the WHOLE WORLD to entice the Kings of the WHOLE WORLD to go to war against God Almighty.

So, God says Babylon the Great are the kings of this whole world. But Babel, means confusion, so lets add it all up. When is Satan cast into the bottomless pit? At the 2nd coming. So, God defeats Babylon, who king is Satan, the "god of this world".

Babylon thus = Satan's Dark Kingdom on earth over mankind, where he so confuses the world that they try to fight against their own loving Creator.

 

[Aaron56]

Also included is drunk by the blood of the saints. Who started the rumor that jews killed and ate Christians?
But lest nor forget Rome killing Christians by the thousands.

No rumor.

Jesus was talking to the Jewish scribes and pharisees when He said this;

31“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. 33Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? 34Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

Being "drunk with blood" is symbolic language found elsewhere in the scriptures:

"I will make my arrows drunk with blood,
while my sword devours flesh"

No one thinks arrows and swords have mouths or teeth. Being "drunk with blood" is a phrase of art.

It's important to note that the saints were still killed after this generation Jesus spoke to. So any amalgamation of religious belief that targets people born of the Spirit is included in the vision of the woman riding the beast.

The enemy cannot create he can only pervert that which is already made. For our own benefit, God gives us templates with historical context so that we may recognize the fullness of the reality when it appears in the earth. Also, we are dealing with spiritual realities that manifest in the natural. So these things must be spiritually discerned by the mature.

 

[God-fearing]

No rumor.

Jesus was talking to the Jewish scribes and pharisees when He said this;

31“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. 33Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? 34Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

Being "drunk with blood" is symbolic language found elsewhere in the scriptures:

"I will make my arrows drunk with blood,
while my sword devours flesh"

No one thinks arrows and swords have mouths or teeth. Being "drunk with blood" is a phrase of art.

It's important to note that the saints were still killed after this generation Jesus spoke to. So any amalgamation of religious belief that targets people born of the Spirit is included in the vision of the woman riding the beast.

The enemy cannot create he can only pervert that which is already made. For our own benefit, God gives us templates with historical context so that we may recognize the fullness of the reality when it appears in the earth. Also, we are dealing with spiritual realities that manifest in the natural. So these things must be spiritually discerned by the mature.

I read this twice....where is jesus pointing to cannibalism?

 

[Aaron56]

I read this twice....where is jesus pointing to cannibalism?

No where. My point is “drunk on the blood of the saints” does not mean cannibalism. Never did.