Who Would You Be Without Your Mistakes?

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OutWrite Trouble
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Hey Everyone,

I've thought about this a lot lately, and was wondering how the rest of you feel.

I don't really know how to word it, so I hope what I'm trying to say won't be misread. I am NOT trying to make excuses for sin or bad choices.

But at the same time, have you ever considered, if you could erase every mistake from your life, and if you could have done everything perfectly or with a nearly clean record, who would you now be?

I'd like to say I wish I could go back and change some mistakes in my life, but it's because of those mistakes that:

1. I can relate, in a small way, to the struggle single parents go through every day.

2. I can lend a sympathetic ear and comfort to people dealing with separations and divorces (I could not have done this before my own divorce--I was one of the people who said, "People give up too easy! It should be illegal to divorce because people don't try!" without the slightest hint of compassion or grace).

3. I can talk to people who have been through very extreme situations in life.

4. I can pray for people who battle co-dependency, because I've dealt with it firsthand.

When writing this, I was also thinking of an older relative whom I love very much but has lived about as "clean" of a life as one can have. This person grew up a Christian, married their childhood love, and was never into the party scene. They've lived their life in a quiet service to their family and God, which I admire greatly.

But, I was also struck at how ironic it was when this person felt badly about having to change hairstylists, not wanting the person's feelings to be hurt. The stylist said in reply, "Oh, it's no problem--it's just like a breakup, and everyone lives through breakups, you know?"

The thing is, this person could not relate at all (and told me so), because they have never been through a breakup.

Which left me feeling a bit torn. Should I be glad for all the mishaps in my life, some of them self-routed? I'm at a place where I fight with myself constantly because part of me is the type who does not learn unless there is an experience. I recently read an interview with the pop singer Rihanna, and she said it perfectly: "A child doesn't believe an oven is hot unless she touches it herself."

I know obedience to God should be our number one priority... and I know we, as Christians, should always strive to live Godly lives.

But I'm not yet sure how to resolve the part of myself that, in some ways, is glad for the things I've been through, even the wrong things, because without knowing firsthand, how could I ever know what it was like for someone else? And yet... That was the entire foundation of what brought sin into the world: God said, "Don't go there--I know better, and I'm asking you not to go there," and yet Adam and Eve just had to find out the oven was hot for themselves.

I'd love to hear what everyone else has to say, because it will help clarify some serious debates I've been having with myself, and with my faith.
 
I read or heard somewhere this great saying (which I am paraphrasing here):

"He who has never failed has never really tried."
 
I'm not perfect. I make mistakes. And I'm thankful that I have this chance-to make a mistake. To learn from it. And to be wise enough to never do it again (doesn't always work that way)-but I'm in a process (I fall down and I get up again-but in between all of that-something real happens in me).
 
With out mistakes... wouldn't that make me the Christ?

sorry, too philosophical...

I cannot know who I would be without my mistakes, but I am Thankful for all of the mistakes I've made, because each one is a lesson or (or whole graduate degree worth of lessons) that I have learned. My choosing to make poor choices and my having learned from those choices makes me a better man, a better Christian, a better Father. Maybe someday it will make me a better boyfriend or a better husband, but I do not care to know that yet. My mistakes -from the enormous to the minuscule - are life experiences that God has drawn me out of and that I can draw on to be Useful for His purposes.
I don't have time to post it now, but sometime should post up my toolbox devotion. It is very in keeping with my reply to your thread, Kim. :) Good thread starter, even Though I feel that I didn't answer it as intended.
 
It's important to learn from our mistakes. But if one learns only through making mistakes, I fear one would be in for a very sad life. I think I've learned a lot from my mistakes and I've paid a price for them. And I think I've learned a lot from watching the mistakes of others and avoiding the same pitfalls.

Each of us deals with life and experiences differently. I've seen plenty of people make the same mistakes over and over. And I've seen people like the one you mentioned who have lived a more pristine life. I've learned to live with the hand I've been dealt and the choices I've made, both bad and good.

My wife was a virgin when I married her. And she had never really had a boyfriend. That wasn't the case for me (not referring to the boyfriend part). :) I had failed with regard to sex before marriage. During the course of our marriage there have been times I've felt that if she had had more relationship experience she would be more understanding of compromise. But that's not necessarily true. Obviously there are people who have had relationship experience and they still struggle with relationships. And I've come across people, a number of them here, who I believe would probably make excellent spouses, even though they haven't been in relationships.

I've talked to my daughter about the mistakes I've made. And I don't want her to make the same ones. I told her mistakes will be made. And there is a price to be paid. But we must try and ask God to help us avoid mistakes. We must learn from those we've made. And we must not allow our mistakes to separate us from God.
 
Without my mistakes, I would be completely unbearable to be around or talk to. A total snob.

God gave me opportunities to change that, and I took them (unknowingly at the time, of course). Obviously I failed a lot, failed myself and God and my family, but...

Even when you take a test and fail, you've still learned something. Even if that something is just that you're useless under pressure, or that you really should have started studying sooner.

Without certain mistakes, I'd have been unable to deal with situations that popped up later. I'd have been unable to offer my (questionably useful) assistance to others at times. I'd've never figured out the point of salvation. I'd have far, far less to teach my children.

Also, I'd never have learned why having hot pink hair is a bad idea for me. Er...without mistakes, I wouldn't have had hot pink hair in the first place.
 
anything can be made for good. Even bad situations. Maybe not just for yourself but you can also help someone else. I don't think you have to touch the oven to see if its hot. But witnessing someone do it maybe all you need.
 
This verse from Romans 5 came to mind:

[SUP]20 [/SUP][SUP][o][/SUP]The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,[SUP]21 [/SUP]so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

One man sinned, and created sin, but despite that failing God used that for our good. It's through our sins that he is able to help us learn and become better for ministry to others. We learn from our mistakes and use that to help others along. I had a really good friend similar to the person you mentioned. He was raised in a very religious christian home and he always toed the line, and had few mistakes, unfortunately for him though, he wasn't able to relate to a whole lot of things. He couldn't understand certain thought processes, or really understand difficult times, because he never really had many. I know for me (and I'll probably get hell from people for saying this), had I not recognized my failings in my marriage and prayed for deliverance, I have no doubt I would still be married, but I also have no doubt I would no longer believe in God, I would be a veritable "shell of a man", spineless, submissive, a horrible example of a male role model for my sons, and my now ex-wife and I would be a horrid example of a Godly marriage. Yes we should strive for perfection and obedience, but the beauty of Gods work is that He can use the ugly to save us from ourselves as well.
 
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A much better person, one who would not be wicked and depraved.
 
Let's keep in mind that Adam and Eve had no previous examples that required them to know "Empathy". They didn't even know "anger" "fear" and "frustration". Mistakes were not in there vocabulary I'm sure. We develop a strong sense of "Empathy" by studying the Bible which gives examples to show us what happens if we don't respect what God means when he says "do this or that" or "don't do this or that" and why. When we have "Empathy" then we don't really have to experience bad things for ourselves. However, humans imitate Satan's stubbornness as a rule.

I don't understand why you should not feel grateful for the person you have become. If experience lead you to be empathetic and aligning your life with God's expectations, what's not to be happy for?

I put "sinning" into a different category than making "mistakes". The human experience is shaped by "mistakes", therefore difficult to say "Who "I would be without mistakes." I don't know who I would be if I had not lived my experience. But I can tell you this. It doesn't matter where I've been if I've gone to God in prayer and asked him for his forgiveness. Now I can move on and this is who I am today. All that matters is where I'm going and who I'm going with. I chose Jehovah and Christ.

God is not looking for perfection in us. That's why he sent his only begotten son. You came out of your experience, seeing the mistakes you made and now use it to do better or good, offer understanding to someone else. God would prefer that we spend more time learning from the examples recorded in the Bible, than living our lives haphazardly in our "my way" state of mind. But he forgives sincerity, and he rewards us when we make the effort to not make foolish mistakes that lead to sinning.

You sound like you feel guilty for learning from mistakes and moving on. It's a fact of life and an expectation. Now, if you're going to serve God you make up your mind and your HEART to do it. No need to be all caught up in "the part of myself that, in some ways, is glad for the things I've been through, even the wrong things," If you learned what "wrong things" are and they aren't a problem anymore, then good. What do you mean "serious debates I've been having with myself, and with my faith'? Are you in "I" mode?

Faith also means letting Bible examples be enough of a lesson to keep us from wanting to sin. We have to surrender (get out of "I" mode) to be lead. Christ is a strong and loving leader...don't think so much, follow more.
 
I know without my mistakes I would feel a whole ton better about myself,but in the same breath I think I would end up in a short while beyond corrupt & so full of myself. I am well aware of so many of my mistakes & imperfections now,and yet I go & judge others,think myself better than them at times....can you imagine what a monster I'd become if I didn't have those past mistakes to humble me & hopefully learn from via God's grace,hope & love???
 
I'm very much enjoying and learning from everyone's posts here, thank you so much!! And please keep sharing as you feel led--your answers are just what I needed.

2Tim--thank you so much for such a compassionate response--I greatly appreciate it.

The unfortunate, and very honest thing, is that when I talk about my "mistakes", they're more like, "I saw sin and it looked pretty good... and I went ahead and bit the fruit, even though I knew better."

The vast majority of my mistakes were led by pain and through my own choices, so I have no excuse. "I'll go with this person... because it's better than the pain of being alone." I heard about the oven, I was given several warnings... but when I saw the oven... by golly, I just had to reach up and grab it with both hands anyway.

I can relate very well to what Zao is saying about his friend, though--some of the people I've met who have walked the straight and narrow all their lives have absolutely no way of relating to others, nor feeling any kind of compassion towards the general human experience!! I hear them talk down about single parents, bash those who are divorced, rip apart others struggling with addictions. Of course, not all are like this--but in many cases... people who have made few mistakes... are not people I could talk to about much of anything.

I've always seemed to "naturally" gravitate towards people who have been through a lot--drugs, alcohol, abuse, broken homes, even prostitution--and do you know why?

Because, unlike many of the people who walked the "straight and narrow", the people who had made the most mistakes seemed to be the most understanding, and there wasn't anything I could tell them that they would judge me for. I can't say that about my experiences in the church, so I often struggle with an attraction towards the "worldly" crowd.

I would rather talk to an open-minded unbeliever who has "seen it all" than a Christian who can tell me everything I'm doing wrong without even knowing my first name... in a heartbeat. (Especially when it comes to friendships... and relationships.)
 
The unfortunate, and very honest thing, is that when I talk about my "mistakes", they're more like, "I saw sin and it looked pretty good... and I went ahead and bit the fruit, even though I knew better."

That sounds like me...for way too long. Even now, from time to time, I start thinking about how I used to live, and some of it, if I'm being entirely honest, I miss a little. Because of course there were fun times, but then I remember how I felt, just in general, and it was bad. I was basically miserable, trying to find anything that would make me happy again. I just didn't realize how bad off I really was until I didn't feel that way anymore, if that makes sense.

I guess that's what I get for running head-first into things I knew were wrong.

But, those things are what lead to my decision to quit being a lukewarm "Christian" and get right with God.
 
If I can derail for a second. Yanno Cris you are pretty stinkin' awesome. (not just 'cause I love yer' choice in hair colors either).
It takes a special woman to admit that you miss some of the old nature. It's true. I think there are aspects of those days we all miss if honest. I think we hate to own up to that fact because it could make us look less spiritual or weak in some way. I just wanna give you mad props for first off..being a Mom. That in & of itself is beyond anything I can wrap my mind around. It's pretty amazing & I am sure that one day your child will grow up & realize how awesome a Mom you were. maybe if there is a CC time capsule we can show them in writing all of your coolness & striving to be the best Godly Mom possible. Ok..derailment aborted..back to the thread ya'll.lol
 
If I can derail for a second. Yanno Cris you are pretty stinkin' awesome. (not just 'cause I love yer' choice in hair colors either).
It takes a special woman to admit that you miss some of the old nature. It's true. I think there are aspects of those days we all miss if honest. I think we hate to own up to that fact because it could make us look less spiritual or weak in some way. I just wanna give you mad props for first off..being a Mom. That in & of itself is beyond anything I can wrap my mind around. It's pretty amazing & I am sure that one day your child will grow up & realize how awesome a Mom you were. maybe if there is a CC time capsule we can show them in writing all of your coolness & striving to be the best Godly Mom possible. Ok..derailment aborted..back to the thread ya'll.lol

I'm all...awkward...with compliments, but instead of arguing with you I'ma go with...

Hey thanks :)
 
If it weren't for my mistakes I would probably still think I knew it all, like I did at 16 :rolleyes:
 
There are certainly things that I relate to better than others. I have asked God to give me empathy for the things I couldn't understand, but I'm not sure it "worked", because I still understand better if it's something I've been through personally.

That being said, when I'm supposed to talk with someone, they're usually dealing with things that I've been through. Sooooo... maybe things are the way they should be.
 
I asked myself this question when I first became a Christian. I came to the conclusion that as good as things might be, I would STILL be better off not having sinned or made mistakes in the first place. No amount of sin will bring you closer to God.

For further clarification, think of sin like mud/dirt. You start out clean. Who is cleaner; the one who never got dirty, or the one who got dirty and then got washed? Well...they are both equally clean, but the one who never got dirty gets to experience more of cleanness.