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newbirth said:
Elin said:
new birth said:
Elin said:
And I choose the word of God in 1Jn 1:8-10 over newbirth.
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newbirth did not write ...1 John 1:7 that is also the word of God...
so you simply chose the word of God over the word of God...I think they call it wrestling with the word....
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Your setting the word of God against itself, 1Jn 1:7, 9 against 1Jn 1:8, 10, is ipso facto proof that you do not understand it correctly.
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So you are saying this verse is not a fact in itself....what part of scripture does this verse contradict or needs to explained?
1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
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Review it again. . .and look up the meaning of ipso facto.
 
newbirth said:
does it change the meaning of vs 7? it strengthens the point...in vs 9....you are trying to tell me that God does not forgive us our sins and cleans us of all unrighteousness....and you believe ....Dr. John MacArthur....instead ....God does not say sin less...he says sin no more....and that must be your attitude....
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Yes you would have made a good Democratic Politician with all the double talk, positional manevering, and political correctness. But that really brings us to an end of debating one another.

You have a good life, because I am not convinced that you will like the hereafter.

Matthew 10:14-15 (HCSB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that house or town.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]I assure you: It will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town.
 
Elin said:

Review it again. . .and look up the meaning of ipso facto.
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are you trying to teach me a latin word...why not use english ......But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin..... by that fact whether you agree or not...by that fact if you believe it or not.....by that fact in the bible and out of the bible...is the truth by itself and contradicts nothing...
 
VCO said:
Yes you would have made a good Democratic Politician with all the double talk, positional manevering, and political correctness. But that really brings us to an end of debating one another.

You have a good life, because I am not convinced that you will like the hereafter.

Matthew 10:14-15 (HCSB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that house or town.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]I assure you: It will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town.
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It was nice chatting with you....may the grace of God and his blessings be with you my friend...
 
LEPIDUS said:
If we are saved by grace, why are we judged by our deeds?
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Isaiah 1:16-20




10 Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.


16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;


17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.


18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.


19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:


20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.
 
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