Why do many stumble at 3 of the 5 gifts?
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I believe I was responding to Markum. Not you. Every one of my responses has been to Markum. Not you.
I actually have no desire to respond to you due to your attitude, and constant condescending comments toward others who you disagree with, but I will comment that you are incorrect to assume they were apostles. They assisted Paul, but did not fill all the qualifications of an apostle who is appointed by divine authority.
I actually have no desire to respond to you due to your attitude, and constant condescending comments toward others who you disagree with, but I will comment that you are incorrect to assume they were apostles. They assisted Paul, but did not fill all the qualifications of an apostle who is appointed by divine authority.
Open forums are not your freind then 
And yet you do.
You read too much into text. I beleive its the to the point nature of my posts that offends you more than anything, when we clear the red herrings it hurts your case grievously...
Scripture states they where, its just lost in translation. Use of a concordance or literal translation will show you that it is in fact what scriputre says, not an assumption.
As per the topic of this discussion, your assumption as to what qualifies someone to be an apostle is an assumption and unscriptural. Assuming your point without considering the evidence is why you don't get along well with me. I have not been uncourtious to you on the whole.
And yet you do.
You read too much into text. I beleive its the to the point nature of my posts that offends you more than anything, when we clear the red herrings it hurts your case grievously...
Scripture states they where, its just lost in translation. Use of a concordance or literal translation will show you that it is in fact what scriputre says, not an assumption.
As per the topic of this discussion, your assumption as to what qualifies someone to be an apostle is an assumption and unscriptural. Assuming your point without considering the evidence is why you don't get along well with me. I have not been uncourtious to you on the whole.
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Sigh, let's all just agree to disagree...
apostle is someone who is 'sent by God.'
If you believe that people today being sent by God into the missions fields, into their career fields, as 'sent,' good? If not, good, too.
One seems to me a way of faith and one seems a way of disbelief, but, it's not salvation issue, it's simply an understanding of how, to me, anyway, God works the same yesterday, as today, as forevermore.
An apostle is not telling us new doctrine, as stilledwater says, I agree, an apostle in today's times is simply following the Lord's instruction for his life, I just see no argument here, we are not arguing about apostles doing things of New Testament time revelation, of course, but, arguing of current times revelation, as someone sent by God, in and of itself, is truly an awesome thing, to be appointed to do some work and CLEARLY see what that work is, hmm, let me think on that a minute, AWESOME! Didn't take a minute did it, truth be told, didn't take me even a second, but my fingers couldn't type fast enough
Don't quench the Spirit, pray without ceasing, give thanks to Christ Jesus all the time, in your life, be a 'pure vessel,' who is following His will for his/her life. I can guarantee you will be 'sent' and it may not be to the office of 'apostle,' but 'teacher,' evangelist,' 'pastor,' 'prophesier,' will be you, IF you are in Him. I think people get scared and think that they are not following Him because they don't see the glistening 'drops' of Scripture impacting his/her life now. But, remember , faith is trusting in the unseen, understanding the 'seen is temporal.' Paul makes that point TWICE in his epistle--in Corinthians and Hebrews, if not mistaken-- that really should tell you how important he wants to get that specific point across to all.
Of course, he who is Paul wrote inspiredly from He who was in Him and He who is in you, in YOUR 'temple,' that right there takes a lot of faith. Wow! The Holy Spirit wants to be in me ! The Holy Spirit KNOWS our bodies are where He belongs, IF you belong to Him
apostle is someone who is 'sent by God.'
If you believe that people today being sent by God into the missions fields, into their career fields, as 'sent,' good? If not, good, too.
One seems to me a way of faith and one seems a way of disbelief, but, it's not salvation issue, it's simply an understanding of how, to me, anyway, God works the same yesterday, as today, as forevermore.
An apostle is not telling us new doctrine, as stilledwater says, I agree, an apostle in today's times is simply following the Lord's instruction for his life, I just see no argument here, we are not arguing about apostles doing things of New Testament time revelation, of course, but, arguing of current times revelation, as someone sent by God, in and of itself, is truly an awesome thing, to be appointed to do some work and CLEARLY see what that work is, hmm, let me think on that a minute, AWESOME! Didn't take a minute did it, truth be told, didn't take me even a second, but my fingers couldn't type fast enough
Don't quench the Spirit, pray without ceasing, give thanks to Christ Jesus all the time, in your life, be a 'pure vessel,' who is following His will for his/her life. I can guarantee you will be 'sent' and it may not be to the office of 'apostle,' but 'teacher,' evangelist,' 'pastor,' 'prophesier,' will be you, IF you are in Him. I think people get scared and think that they are not following Him because they don't see the glistening 'drops' of Scripture impacting his/her life now. But, remember , faith is trusting in the unseen, understanding the 'seen is temporal.' Paul makes that point TWICE in his epistle--in Corinthians and Hebrews, if not mistaken-- that really should tell you how important he wants to get that specific point across to all.
Of course, he who is Paul wrote inspiredly from He who was in Him and He who is in you, in YOUR 'temple,' that right there takes a lot of faith. Wow! The Holy Spirit wants to be in me ! The Holy Spirit KNOWS our bodies are where He belongs, IF you belong to Him
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