Why im not a calvinist (but want to be)
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Our responsibility is to proclaim the Lord's death and resurrection until He comes that all may hear. That is God's charge. Election is in God's hands.
Yes. That I agree qith
for GOD's WORD will accomplish HIS PURPOSE
Like workers in HIS field, we were called to cast the seed of Eternal LIFE and let it fall where it will fall
GOD alone will bring the increase
We don't know who will hear and believe
but HE does
I go by the moniker 'Calvinist', not because I follow Calvin, but so that ppl know I hold to the beliefs know as Calvinism. It gives ppl a huge target to aim at.
Calvinism is a bit of a misnomer, but this might help?
http://www.theopedia.com/calvinism
No, sorry to dismiss your slight readily, but just because one calls another a "Calvinist" doesn't necessitate they "follow Calvin". Many came to the knowledge of the DoG by simply reading Scripture, not by reading Calvin - myself included. By the way, it is carnal to try to cause the schism you're attempting to draw ("You..." "...but I"). Read and obey 1 Corinthians 3:1ff?
Basically he held to the doctrines that men hate such as Sovereignty, Election, Predestination, Reprobation. So he was quite biblical and today that's a no-no.
You can try his work "The Institution of the Christian Religion", you can find it freely on the web.
Its like his personal summary of the protestant belief and life.
Originally Posted by valiantNo you are wrong. A Calvinist is someone who follows Calvin. I do not follow Calvin. I do not even know in detail what he teaches. I believe in election because the Bible teaches it.
LOL you are touchy . I gave no slight. But a Calvinist is by definition a follower of Calvin.
read my note again. That is what I said. So you are not a Calvinist. Well done
LOL you are uppity. I was giving a simple explanation. How is that trying to cause schism? As I see it you are simply out to cause trouble where there was no trouble.
Perhaps YOU need to read 1 Cor 3.1 ff. ?
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Maybe Calvin became a Calvin over time
maybe he just came to understand that though we are called into HIS WORK, HE alone is the ONE who opens the eyes and the ears of the heart so that a man can both see and hear THE GOSPEL, so that THE GOSPEL will be received as it should be received (from GOD and not from men)
i believe that Christians might misjudge Calvin and those who hold to his understanding, thinking that, just as the poster mentioned, "chillax"...like the lazy servant who knows HIS MASTER's WORK and instead of casting the seeds, he hoards the seeds and does not go out
i don't believe that this is what Calvin was saying when he spoke of election. I don't think it stopped him from preaching the GOSPEL. At least, it shouldn't have
maybe he just came to understand that though we are called into HIS WORK, HE alone is the ONE who opens the eyes and the ears of the heart so that a man can both see and hear THE GOSPEL, so that THE GOSPEL will be received as it should be received (from GOD and not from men)
i believe that Christians might misjudge Calvin and those who hold to his understanding, thinking that, just as the poster mentioned, "chillax"...like the lazy servant who knows HIS MASTER's WORK and instead of casting the seeds, he hoards the seeds and does not go out
i don't believe that this is what Calvin was saying when he spoke of election. I don't think it stopped him from preaching the GOSPEL. At least, it shouldn't have
Actually, calvinism is just a name for the branch of protestantism.
In history, the same teaching was taught by Luther, in pre-reformation era by John Huss or in the 3rd century by st. Augustin and then by order named after him.
Before Augustin it was taught by Paul, Peter etc.
So when you call yourself a "calvinist" it does not have to mean you admire John Calvin, the French reformer so much. It only represent some historical summary of this belief.
In history, the same teaching was taught by Luther, in pre-reformation era by John Huss or in the 3rd century by st. Augustin and then by order named after him.
Before Augustin it was taught by Paul, Peter etc.
So when you call yourself a "calvinist" it does not have to mean you admire John Calvin, the French reformer so much. It only represent some historical summary of this belief.
but it defines your teaching by what John Calvin taught whether you like it or not.
I prefer to be judged on the Scriptures
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but it defines your teaching by what John Calvin taught whether you like it or not.
I prefer to be judged on the Scriptures.
There you go again with the carnal "You..." "...but I" schism. If it were a matter of heresy, that would be another matter altogether. Certainly trofimus stands on Scripture just the same, not upon Calvin. Your comparisons and slights are carnal, unwise, divisive and callow.
Yes of course
no Christian would ever say they follow Paul or Cephas or Apollos or Calvin
The funny thing is that Paul even uses the term " I am of Christ " too along with all the others that try to bring division amongst the believers because of some doctrinal position that is different.
1 Corinthians 1:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Now I mean this, that each one of you is saying, "I am of Paul," and "I of Apollos," and "I of Cephas," and "I of Christ."
but it defines your teaching by what John Calvin taught whether you like it or not.
I prefer to be judged on the Scriptures
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Or Paul or Augustin or Luther or John Huss... I dont care
By calvinism I mean only 5 points. Not the lifestyle of Calvin.
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I don't need to hear anything more, this here shows person who does not understand God's own holiness, and possibily if you are honest, an unregenerate person.
My goal now is to reach you with the gospel more than anything.
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He had a high view of man's depravity and God's sovereignty, even over his conversion. Sadly, if Calvin knew that his name was used for a set of teachings it would have crushed him. I mean, he asked for his body to buried in an unmarked grave in fear that people would venerate him the way the Roman Catholics did to individuals.
This French Theologian simply announced the gospel and the things pertaining to it, including these things.
Besides, if you read his works, he quotes not only Scripture, but even men like Augustine, who taught these same things. Matter of fact, he quotes Augustine more than anyone outside the Scriptures.