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I saw what you wrote: Why mankind exists.
Below is what I believe our Father has been showing me.
It is very close to what you wrote.

Where Life came from
Why Life exists
Your purpose for being here
Why is there so much evil here
· God created everything
· His first Creation was one Begotten Son; other creations followed.
· Other sons of God were created by Him, (myriads of them)(sons of God, spirits, angels).
· They dwell in His Domain ( the third Heaven)
· Many Solar Systems were created in the second heavens.
· A rebellion occurred in God’s Heaven and one son, Lucifer (angel), due to his pride, was removed and cast to this planet, Earth,
in our universe. A third of the others sons (spirits) followed.
· Vegetarian and carnivorous creatures were here in an earlier earth age, and perhaps other creations prior, and earlier earth ages.
· It ended in wickedness and a flood causing earth to become and remain void of life for a period of time.
· Genesis: God (Eloheim) and His sons (angels, spirits) in God’s heaven, decide to re-create the planet earth. (Another earth age)
· Thus: OUR history is in the first book in the Bible, Genesis.
· They re-create a nice Earth that has been void and uninhabited for an unlimited time..
· Then God has a Plan to test His beloved sons, that He loves, that left His domain and followed Lucifer, and now want to return. (and perhaps the testing is for all of his angels, even the ones that did not follow Lucifer) He created flesh, in His likeness, for them to dwell in; to Be Born of Water (woman) and live a short life on the re-created planet Earth, to see if they will, without former memory, freely choose Him as their FATHER. (we must be born of water and the spirit to enter into the kingdom of God) ( John 3:5 ) If the soul (person) chooses God, to know Him and love Him, his spirit is born anew and He will come into a relationship with Him as ‘Father.’ If he gives himself ‘completely’ to God, Jesus may baptize him in the Holy Spirit.
· God, who is Spirit (Holy), with the help of his angels (Gen 1:26, Gen 3:22), created different races of men and women and told them to multiply; then ‘they’ create another race of man, called Adam (ruddy colored) with the knowledge to cultivate and grow food...
· Then the Testing began.
· In the Garden of Eden, Lucifer appears as a beautiful male angel (A shining one) and beguiles (seduces) Eve and Adam. Eve conceives 2 sons; at least one or both are the seed of Lucifer. (Probably just Cain) Punishment from God comes upon our first ancestors (the woman will have pain during childbirth, and her desire will be towards her husband (Who did Eve have a desire for if not Adam??); the man will have to work hard for his food); and all this we inherited. (Cain and Able are twins-‘Heteropaternal superfecundation’ . (Eve ‘continued’ in labor and bore Abel.) Twins can have two different fathers. Neither sons’ are listed in Adams genealogy. ( Genesis 5) (????)
(One brother killed the other out of jealousy)
· Jealousy=hatred=murder has existed from the beginning of this Earth Age. This is why we have war and………..evil. (note Gen:6)
· God had a plan, and His only begotten Son, first of all of His creation, (Colossians 1:15) was willing to Bring His Father’s Word to mankind, live in a flesh body, lead a sinless life, do all good things, and because of Jealousy from Lucifer and his offspring, (Satan’s Seed), agreed to be painfully crucified (as prophesied), as a payment, in order to Buy Back (Redeem) the fallen spirits inside our temporary bodies. He became our Redeemer, Savior, co-Creator, and King and Lord. Through Him, Jesus, who brought His Father’s Words, we can now Know and Choose to Know our Father. (intimately)
(John 17:3 - ‘and this is eternal life, knowing the Father and His Son, Christ Jesus’.)
· We will have an Eternal Home and Eternal life, when we shed this body of flesh. We will have a spirit body, like Jesus did after He resurrected, that will never get sick or die and return to our Father in Heaven as one of His children. We will be known by those there that knew us before. ( I Corinthians 13:12) (He knew us before we were born here! (Jeremiah 1:5 -“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born”) ( born of water/woman)
· If we choose this Relationship here, while still in these bodies, is there ‘marriage between man and woman’, after leaving these bodies and being resurrected to eternal life? Jesus was asked this question. His answer: (Matthew 22:23 - “you will be like the angels.”
· God’s Son, Jesus (as we know Him), rose from the dead, 3 days after burial, and was seen by over 500 people at one time and walked, talked and ate with them 40 days. They Watched Him ascend above the clouds, with other angels, until they could no longer see Him.
· He said He would return in the same manner as they saw Him leave. (John: 14 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me. [SUP]2 [/SUP]My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? [SUP]3 [/SUP]And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. [SUP]4 [/SUP]You know the way to the place where I am going.”
· He said He will return ……….We will have to read the Bible to see when……signs to when He will return……and receive the answers to all our other questions. His Holy Spirit is our Teacher and will give us every answer to every question we ask, if we truly seek answers from Him and if He decides we are ready for them.
· John 15:7 “If you abide in Me and My Words (Father’s Words) abide in you, ask Anything and it will be done for you.”

Our purpose here on Earth: To develop a Relationship with our Father (God) through Jesus, His son, who makes the way for us to go back to our Father for eternity.

Comments..........
 
Ms. TrustinginHim777: "Our purpose here on Earth: To develop a Relationship with our Father (God) through Jesus, His son, who makes the way for us to go back to our Father for eternity."

Sounds good! :)

PS: I would definitely spell 'Son' with a capital 'S'.
 
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Where Life came from
Why Life exists
Your purpose for being here
Why is there so much evil here
· God created everything
· His first Creation was one Begotten Son; other creations followed.
· Other sons of God were created by Him, (myriads of them)(sons of God, spirits, angels).
· They dwell in His Domain ( the third Heaven)
· Many Solar Systems were created in the second heavens.
· A rebellion occurred in God’s Heaven and one son, Lucifer (angel), due to his pride, was removed and cast to this planet, Earth,
in our universe. A third of the others sons (spirits) followed.
· Vegetarian and carnivorous creatures were here in an earlier earth age, and perhaps other creations prior, and earlier earth ages.
· It ended in wickedness and a flood causing earth to become and remain void of life for a period of time.
· Genesis: God (Eloheim) and His sons (angels, spirits) in God’s heaven, decide to re-create the planet earth. (Another earth age)
· Thus: OUR history is in the first book in the Bible, Genesis.
· They re-create a nice Earth that has been void and uninhabited for an unlimited time..
· Then God has a Plan to test His beloved sons, that He loves, that left His domain and followed Lucifer, and now want to return. (and perhaps the testing is for all of his angels, even the ones that did not follow Lucifer) He created flesh, in His likeness, for them to dwell in; to Be Born of Water (woman) and live a short life on the re-created planet Earth, to see if they will, without former memory, freely choose Him as their FATHER. (we must be born of water and the spirit to enter into the kingdom of God) ( John 3:5 ) If the soul (person) chooses God, to know Him and love Him, his spirit is born anew and He will come into a relationship with Him as ‘Father.’ If he gives himself ‘completely’ to God, Jesus may baptize him in the Holy Spirit.
· God, who is Spirit (Holy), with the help of his angels (Gen 1:26, Gen 3:22), created different races of men and women and told them to multiply; then ‘they’ create another race of man, called Adam (ruddy colored) with the knowledge to cultivate and grow food...
· Then the Testing began.
· In the Garden of Eden, Lucifer appears as a beautiful male angel (A shining one) and beguiles (seduces) Eve and Adam. Eve conceives 2 sons; at least one or both are the seed of Lucifer. (Probably just Cain) Punishment from God comes upon our first ancestors (the woman will have pain during childbirth, and her desire will be towards her husband (Who did Eve have a desire for if not Adam??); the man will have to work hard for his food); and all this we inherited. (Cain and Able are twins-‘Heteropaternal superfecundation’ . (Eve ‘continued’ in labor and bore Abel.) Twins can have two different fathers. Neither sons’ are listed in Adams genealogy. ( Genesis 5) (????)
(One brother killed the other out of jealousy)
· Jealousy=hatred=murder has existed from the beginning of this Earth Age. This is why we have war and………..evil. (note Gen:6)
· God had a plan, and His only begotten Son, first of all of His creation, (Colossians 1:15) was willing to Bring His Father’s Word to mankind, live in a flesh body, lead a sinless life, do all good things, and because of Jealousy from Lucifer and his offspring, (Satan’s Seed), agreed to be painfully crucified (as prophesied), as a payment, in order to Buy Back (Redeem) the fallen spirits inside our temporary bodies. He became our Redeemer, Savior, co-Creator, and King and Lord. Through Him, Jesus, who brought His Father’s Words, we can now Know and Choose to Know our Father. (intimately)
(John 17:3 - ‘and this is eternal life, knowing the Father and His Son, Christ Jesus’.)
· We will have an Eternal Home and Eternal life, when we shed this body of flesh. We will have a spirit body, like Jesus did after He resurrected, that will never get sick or die and return to our Father in Heaven as one of His children. We will be known by those there that knew us before. ( I Corinthians 13:12) (He knew us before we were born here! (Jeremiah 1:5 -“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born”) ( born of water/woman)
· If we choose this Relationship here, while still in these bodies, is there ‘marriage between man and woman’, after leaving these bodies and being resurrected to eternal life? Jesus was asked this question. His answer: (Matthew 22:23 - “you will be like the angels.”
· God’s Son, Jesus (as we know Him), rose from the dead, 3 days after burial, and was seen by over 500 people at one time and walked, talked and ate with them 40 days. They Watched Him ascend above the clouds, with other angels, until they could no longer see Him.
· He said He would return in the same manner as they saw Him leave. (John: 14 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me. [SUP]2 [/SUP]My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? [SUP]3 [/SUP]And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. [SUP]4 [/SUP]You know the way to the place where I am going.”
· He said He will return ……….We will have to read the Bible to see when……signs to when He will return……and receive the answers to all our other questions. His Holy Spirit is our Teacher and will give us every answer to every question we ask, if we truly seek answers from Him and if He decides we are ready for them.
· John 15:7 “If you abide in Me and My Words (Father’s Words) abide in you, ask Anything and it will be done for you.”

Our purpose here on Earth: To develop a Relationship with our Father (God) through Jesus, His son, who makes the way for us to go back to our Father for eternity.

(I am very curious WHERE THE RH BLOOD FACTOR ORIGINATED!)
 
The Lord Jesus was begotten, rather than created. He is God; 'without Him was not anything made that was made' (John 1).
 
Mormons teach that Jesus was created as well. Is this Mormon doctrine?
 
TrustingInHim, there are a number of non-biblical ideas in your posts and you know it. Don't pretend they came from God, they didn't. Certainly not from the one True God, maybe from the counterfeit god.
 
Everyone asks the question why they are here.

Scripture should contain the answer...

hmm
Im not fan of christia teachings about angels (doesnt matter if fallen or not) and I dont really think that we should spare them extra focus, but it is kind of interesting what we have here... so

paul wrote on humans and angels matter following..

Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 1cor6

well, so maybe it is our duty, which is waiting for us, to judge those fallen angels...
just thinking out loud here ...
I hope thou, that it will not be my duty....
be blessed
 
TrustingInHim, there are a number of non-biblical ideas in your posts and you know it. Don't pretend they came from God, they didn't. Certainly not from the one True God, maybe from the counterfeit god.

and this is what OEC invites into the Bible

Let's make a stretch here, and here and here, twist this on a bit - leaving wide open for theological crazy
 
uh, ok. so the Title of the OP was a "fishing lure?"

Sigh.............oh well, and I had such a great answer...........
 
If there had not been the Fall and sin then Adam and Eve would have been obedient to this instruction...

Hi crossnote!! I believe we are cousins/brothers! You'll see why at the end.

I believe you are overlooking the fact that Adam was NOT tempted. Ergo, it was his "self" he 'appeased' by his actions. Satan had nothing to do with it. NOW, carry this thinking over to the temptations of Jesus to see what I mean. Caution here: God left Jesus alone to make His decision just as He did with Adam.

Lov'in Jesus,

Cross Reference. . . :D
 
Hi crossnote!! I believe we are cousins/brothers! You'll see why at the end.

I believe you are overlooking the fact that Adam was NOT tempted. Ergo, it was his "self" he 'appeased' by his actions. Satan had nothing to do with it. NOW, carry this thinking over to the temptations of Jesus to see what I mean. Caution here: God left Jesus alone to make His decision just as He did with Adam.

Lov'in Jesus,

Cross Reference. . . :D



...............sigh..............
 
Yeah I get you. But if Adam was created in the image of God so would his offspring, however tainted with the fleshy lust for sin as portrayed by the bible. we are born and driven to sin because we inherited it from our earthly father. Faith in the work of the cross, breaks this power, as long as our faith is in the cross and not what we are doing in the flesh.


Hi Kerry! Question: Was it a sinful nature that Adam sinned? Go here before answering: Romans 8:20 (KJV)
 
Do you even hear what you're saying?

The most likely scenario is that the entire Universe was created to provide an opportunity for redemption of these fallen angels, as a place to occupy flesh until their number is fulfilled. When their number is fulfilled, (i.e. the third) then God’s purpose for this Universe will have been completed.

This is silly and there's no evidence for such a belief. Fallen angels can't be redeemed. They had their chance and they were in the very presence of God, in His throne room. Here's a nutty idea: let's take what the Bible says as Truth. The Bible says the universe and everything in it was created for the glory of the Lord and we were created to worship Him, walk with Him and enjoy His creation. Also, to govern and produce offspring to enjoy and love God. I'm going with that option.

Thus….I feel that we owe our whole existence to the original fall of Satan and his angels. Without this fall, we would not have even needed to be born.


What an odd conclusion.

Hi Tintin! Indeed! Extremely odd.

Paul wrote this that I believe should be taken to mean not just a few but ALL of the creation in which we exist:

". . . he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love . . . . "Ephesians 1:4 (ESV)


Think about it as being a privilege beyond which we cannot see except by revelation __ and that only in small doses.
 
Hi crossnote!! I believe we are cousins/brothers! You'll see why at the end.

I believe you are overlooking the fact that Adam was NOT tempted. Ergo, it was his "self" he 'appeased' by his actions. Satan had nothing to do with it. NOW, carry this thinking over to the temptations of Jesus to see what I mean. Caution here: God left Jesus alone to make His decision just as He did with Adam.

Lov'in Jesus,

Cross Reference. . . :D


Speculation can be fun and interesting but I wouldn't speculate too much. Those are so odd ideas you're considering. Always go back to what the Bible really says.
 
Speculation can be fun and interesting but I wouldn't speculate too much. Those are so odd ideas you're considering. Always go back to what the Bible really says.

I live in it. That is why I wrote what I wrote.
 
Where Human Life came from
Why Human Life exists
Your purpose for being here
Why is there so much evil here
· God Spoke (bang) the Worlds into existence…..God created everything
· His first Creation was one Begotten Son; other creations followed.
· Other sons of God were created by Him, (myriads of them)(sons of God, spirits, angels).
· They dwell in His Domain ( the third Heaven)
· Many Solar Systems were created in the second heavens.
· A rebellion occurred in God’s Heaven and one son, Lucifer (angel), due to his pride, was removed and cast to this planet, Earth,
in our universe. A third of the others sons (spirits) followed.
· Vegetarian creatures were here in an earlier earth age, and perhaps other creations prior, and former earth ages.
· It ended in wickedness and a flood causing earth to become and remain void of life for a period of time.
· Genesis: God (Eloheim) and His sons (angels, spirits) in God’s heaven, decide to re-create the planet earth. (Another earth age)
· Thus: OUR history is in the first book in the Bible, Genesis.
· They re-create a nice Earth that has been void and uninhabited for an unlimited time..
· Then God has a Plan to test His beloved sons; He created flesh, in His likeness, for them to dwell in; to Be Born of Water (woman) and live a short life on the re-created planet Earth, to see if they will, without former memory, freely choose Him as their FATHER. (we must be born of water and the spirit to enter into the kingdom of God) ( John 3:5 ) If the soul (person) chooses God, to know Him and love Him, his spirit is born anew and He will come into a relationship with Him as ‘Father.’ If he gives himself ‘completely’ to God, Jesus may baptize him in the Holy Spirit.
· God, who is Spirit (Holy), with the help of his angels (Gen 1:26, Gen 3:22), created different races of men and women and told them to multiply; then ‘they’ create another race of man, called Adam (ruddy colored) with the knowledge to cultivate and grow food...
· Then the Testing began.
· In the Garden of Eden, Lucifer appears as a beautiful male angel (Original Hebrew word could be translated serpent or shinning one) and beguiles (seduces) Eve and Adam. Eve conceives 2 sons; One, Cain, is the seed of Lucifer; Abel, son of Adam, although neither are listed in Adam’s genealogy. (Genesis 5) (Punishment from God comes upon our first ancestors: The woman will have pain during childbirth, and her desire will be towards her husband (Who did Eve have a desire for if not Adam??). The man will have to work hard for his food); and all this we inherited. (Cain and Able are twins-‘Heteropaternal superfecundation’ .
(Eve ‘continued’ in labor and bore Abel.) Twins can have two different fathers.
(One brother killed the other out of jealousy)
· Jealousy=hatred=murder has existed from the beginning of this Earth Age. This is why we have war and………..evil. (note Gen:6)
· God had a plan, and His only begotten Son, first of all of His creation, (Colossians 1:15) was willing to BE His Father’s WORD to mankind, live in a flesh body, lead a sinless life, do all good things, and because of Jealousy from Lucifer and his offspring, (Satan’s Seed), agreed to be painfully crucified (as prophesied), as a payment, in order to Buy Back (Redeem) the fallen spirits inside our temporary bodies. (Ever wonder why you only feel like you are about 16 – 20 years old inside?!) He became our Redeemer, Savior, co-Creator, and King and Lord. Through Him, Jesus, who brought His Father’s Words, we can now Know and Choose to Know our Father. (intimately)
(John 17:3 - ‘and this is eternal life, knowing the Father and His Son, Christ Jesus’.)
· We will have an Eternal Home and Eternal life, when we shed this body of flesh. We will have a spirit body, like Jesus did after He resurrected, that will never get sick or die and return to our Father in Heaven as one of His children. We will be known by those there that knew us before. ( I Corinthians 13:12) (He knew us before we were born here! (Jeremiah 1:5 -“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born”) ( born of water/woman)
· If we choose this Relationship here, while still in these bodies, is there ‘marriage between man and woman’, after leaving these bodies and being resurrected to eternal life? Jesus was asked this question. His answer: (Matthew 22:23 - “you will be like the angels.”
· God’s Son, Jesus (as we know Him), rose from the dead, 3 days after burial, and was seen by over 500 people at one time and walked, talked and ate with them 40 days. They Watched Him ascend above the clouds, with other angels, until they could no longer see Him.
· He said He would return in the same manner as they saw Him leave. (John: 14 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me. [SUP]2 [/SUP]My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? [SUP]3 [/SUP]And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. [SUP]4 [/SUP]You know the way to the place where I am going.”
· He said He will return ……….We will have to read the Bible to see when……signs to when He will return……and receive the answers to all our other questions. His Holy Spirit is our Teacher and will give us every answer to every question we ask, if we truly seek answers from Him and if He decides we are ready for them.
· John 15:7 “If you abide in Me and My Words (Father’s Words) abide in you, ask Anything and it will be done for you.”

Our purpose here on Earth: To develop a Relationship with our Father (God) through Jesus, His son, who makes the way for us to go back to our Father for eternity.

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Everyone asks the question why they are here.

Scripture should contain the answer...

You are here because it pleased God to put you here. God doesn't have to give answers, or even explain anything.
 
I find posts like these to be quite fascinating. People speaking with certainty around issue which are not even conjecture. I struggle to see why people quote genesis as an historical text when so many other texts which predate it tell similar or different stories, yet so often these are refuted as heretical or satanic. Take for instance the Babylonian Enuma Elish which written record which predates the authoring of genesis was discovered in Iraq in 1849.

How can people see truth is statements they have not explored in detail? It is the intellectual equivilent of the Salem whch trials. 'She's a Witch!' 'Really? How do you know?' Because she is casting a spell on me right now....(fake-faint)' 'Ah she must be a witch, Hang her!!'.

Please people. Do research these stories of the OT books and their origins before putting all your trust in them.