You didn’t read what I said very closely. I said “Then a Muslim who uses car bombs and people bombs are trusting in the bombs for their security. The Muslim who sends off a young person to blow himself up is looking to a human-bomb as his source of security and protection.”
Whoever put his Trust in something else than God ... is taking that something else as his God.
So the fact that the person who blows himself up is willing to die is irrelevant. My criticism still works against those Muslims who are training the suicide bombers and sending them off to die. They are trusting in their bombs and not Allah.
you imply that the suicide bomber does not act on his will, the suicide bomber is the one who make up his decision, he got a will, and he take actions according to his will ... you focus on ''the one who send suicide bombers'' ... while the focus should be on ''the one who sends himself to death'' ...
and just tell me what kind of security does it bring to the one who wish for death?
Well I don’t want to be crass or promote caricatures (but since you are promoting them yourself here then I'll just show how it can be spun around on you). The suicide bomber is getting PAID with virgins in heaven.
that is part of the anti-islamic propaganda ... they tried to make us believe that the reason WHY suicide bombers do what they do, is an understandable reason, therefore we should not try to seek for WHY? those people do what they do ...
you are not crass, just a little ignorant on the motives that pushed so many people to sacrifice their own-lives.
And the suicide bomber isn’t getting PAID with virgins to think (whether what they are doing is right or wrong), they are PAID to obey the orders, to kill and that’s it. And their only wish is to get to heaven with their virgins alive and in one piece. ALIVE and in one piece.
After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever (1 Thessalonians 4:17).
Well they aren’t working for any monetary salary; their salary is sex in heaven. And they run after death to obtain a life of eternal carnal pleasures.
Yes I get your picture: killing people for a carnal pleasures in heaven is nobler than killing people for carnal pleasures on earth.
You are making the all too common mistake that most middle eastern Muslims make when they confuse Americans and Christians. Christians do help their brothers and sisters out. But that doesn't look like a bomb strapped to the chest because our weapons and our war is not carnal.
(P.S. War veterans aren't exactly rich and living the high life.)
killing people for a carnal pleasures in heaven is nobler than killing people for carnal pleasures on earth ... lol ...even thought you make that claim in a sarcastic way, there still is some truth in it.
Islam does not oppose the West, or anyone else, because of revenge over past hostilities, out of a desire to restore injured pride or because of the desire to amass their wealth and lands. The fight is for one purpose only and that is to establish the religion of Islam in its totality, as the Prophet (peace be upon him) explained when a man came to him and asked:
"One of us fights for booty, another for his tribe and another to be known as brave, which one is fighting jihad?" The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied:
"None of them. Only the one who fights to make Allah's Word the highest is fighting jihad." It is clear to any believer acquainted with Allah's Book (i.e. the Quran) and His Prophet's Sunnah that jihad (i.e. struggling to the utmost of ones ability) is an intrinsic part of faith, and a duty among the duties in Islam. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, as reported by Tariq bin Shihab:
"He who amongst you sees something evil should change it with his hand; and if he is unable he should change it with his tongue; and if he is unable to do that he should at least hate it in his heart, and that is the weakest form of faith"
Jihad has three characteristics. The first form is jihad of the heart, or jihad of the self. This is the internal struggle to acquire the correct creed, and to remove from one's self all doubts and misconceptions concerning this creed, and also the commands and prohibitions enjoined on the believer. It further more encompasses the purifying of the soul from base desires and acquiring noble qualities. The second level is the jihad of the tongue. This is the struggle against evil, and wrong beliefs and actions through preaching and writing books and the like. This form of jihad is characterized by its use against the deviants from among the Muslims, but also extends to the unbelievers. The final form of jihad is that of the hand, or sword, where one expends life and property. It is characterized by its use against unbelievers, but can also be used against deviant groups under the authority of the Muslim ruler. This jihad of the hand, often termed "Holy War", is further compartmentalized into three stages. The first is that of it being forbidden, as it was in the early days of Muhammad's prophethood. If the Muslims are weak, and fighting is liable to cause only harm and no benefit, then they should desist. Such is the case of those dwelling in non-Muslim lands. The second stage is that of self-defense, or restricting the fight to
"those who fight you" [Noble Quran 2:190]
and releasing the lands of the Muslims from the control of their enemies. This is the condition of the Muslims today. The final stage is that of fighting in order to open the path for establishing Allah's rule in the lands of the unbelievers, as was done by the Prophet's companions and the Muslim rulers after them.
"And WHY should you not fight in the cause of God when there are weak and oppressed, old men, women and children whose cry is 'Oh Lord save us from those who oppress, and send to us one who will aid and send to us one who will help!'"
[Noble Quran 4:75]
Thus one the Prophet's companions, Rab'ia ibn Amer, went to meet Rostrum, the famous Persian general, at his request and the general offered camels, and women and asked them to return to the desert. Rab'ia refused, and Rostrum asked him why then were they fighting. Rab'ia replied: "We have come to take mankind from the darkness to the light and from the worship of the false gods to the worship of Allah, from the narrowness of this world the wide expanse of this world and the next, and from the injustices of man made religions to the justice of Islam."
So this Jihad is the peak of the matter and fulfilling it is part of fulfilling the covenant with Allah, and abandoning it is the cause of humiliation and defeat for the Muslims. As Allah said:
"If you march not forth, He will punish you with a painful torment and will replace you by another people and you cannot harm Him at all, and Allah is able to do all things"
[Noble Quran 9:39]
and the saying of the Prophet (peace be upon him):
"When you deal in "al-ainiya" (i.e. become complacent and satisfied with a domestic life) and hang on to the cows tails, and abandon jihad, then Allah will permit your humiliation at the hands of your enemies and will not lift it from you until you return to your religion."
So today we find Muslims leading a life as if they had no prophet, nor belief in any Divine Message or Divine Revelation, nor expectation of any reckoning, nor is fear of the hereafter. They resemble the pre-Islamic nations, against whom they used to fight in the past. So they have turned on their heels as apostates from Islam and have imitated the ignorant nations in their civilization, in their social affairs, in their political systems, in their character and in the pleasures of their lives. So Allah hated them and forsook them, as He promised He would. He had warned them of this clearly in His Book, and on the tongue of His Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him):
"Soon the nations will gather to take from you the same way you invite others to share from a feast!" A person asked the Prophet (peace be upon him):
"Is that because we are small in our numbers?" The Prophet (peace be upon him) answered:
"No! You will be many, like the foam on the sea, but you will be rubbish, like the rubbish carried down by the flood water. And certainly Allah will remove from the breasts of your enemies the fear of you and into your breasts He will cast enervation." A person asked:
"What is enervation?" The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied:
"It is love of life and fear of death." This has come true exactly, as the Prophet (peace be upon him) predicted, and if there is a "Revival of Islam", then that is because anyone with ears and eyes can see how the Muslims are humiliated - their lands a feast for their enemies, ruled by laws and ways nothing to do with that which Allah has revealed. The solution to these problems has been given by the Prophet (peace be upon him) himself one thousand four hundred years ago: "Return to your religion", enjoin what Allah has enjoined and forbid what He has forbidden, prefer the next life to this, and for the Muslims to once again struggle with their lives and properties to bring themselves and others out of the oppression of man made ways of life to the justice of that which has been revealed by the All-knowing Creator!
Allah has promised in His Book that if the Muslims fail to keep their covenant, and fight against the foolish disbelief, then He will destroy them and
"replace them with a people who will love Him, and He will love them, and they will be hard against the forces of disbelief and kind to the believers, and unafraid of those who find fault" [Noble Quran 5:54]
And Allah speaks the truth, and His promise comes true, and this has proven so in the past, as when the Muslims left their religion, fought amongst each other, and reveled in the delights of worldly life... then the calamity of the Tartars fell upon them, destroying utterly the Muslim lands, and its capital Baghdad. Yet from these same conquerors, Allah made them the defenders and upholders of Islam, and from them to the Turks, who in their turn lapsed, and so Allah destroyed them at the hands of the Europeans. Thus is situation in which Muslims find themselves today. It is quite possible that history will repeat itself, and that Islam will be given its strength again through those who had formally tried to destroy it.