If you consider scripture to be "hearsay" and reject it how will you learn anything?
Why wouldn't the scriptures you quote and eisegete equally be 'hearsay'.
Why the Baptism with the Holy Spirit is not for Today
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Why wouldn't the scriptures you quote and eisegete equally be 'hearsay'.
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Who knows how many or when He's done a pouring out to His believers.
I know not anyone's heart only He does.
Everything He has for us is for ALL of us if we believe and recieve!
He said seek and you will find ask and it will be given.
When we allow our minds to become shadowed by man's or denominal doctrine outside the word the we cannot be led by the Spirit!
As some would say DONE AND DUSTED... Carry on in whatever way you choose.
I was not questioning spiritual gifts before 1901. I was talking about a teaching about the baptising with the Holy Spirit which was not found before 1901.
Yes, this is right. I agree with you. Thats why I trusting alone the word of God.
Never does the Bible say that God ended much of the HS job gifts and Baptisim if the HS when the HS had just come down....no pay did the HS stop working 60 years after He came down because the scripture was complete
The Bible does not teach anything of the sort..the HS baptised me on the sofa while I was reading the Bible when I first got saved
So now are you going to say I'm P/C...im not
What was written in the NT is what works for today
People just don't want the NT life for its a low things and money lots of sharing the gospel life
People want what they want lots of money and pleasure
Or on this site conflict
We need not argue so much...each topic God has His truth from His Word and Himself to teach each verse
If we have 1000 threads people arguing opposite positions does that no prove the division
The Bible does not teach anything of the sort..the HS baptised me on the sofa while I was reading the Bible when I first got saved
So now are you going to say I'm P/C...im not
What was written in the NT is what works for today
People just don't want the NT life for its a low things and money lots of sharing the gospel life
People want what they want lots of money and pleasure
Or on this site conflict
We need not argue so much...each topic God has His truth from His Word and Himself to teach each verse
If we have 1000 threads people arguing opposite positions does that no prove the division
Where are the signs and wonders of the Apostles now and in history if the gifts have not ceased? There's your proof if scripture doesn't settle it for you.
Dave I have had the gifts myself 15 years now...just like the apostles had...i do not control it...God does...but rain stops...people get healed. Demons cast out and the gospel is preached
Any Christian can cast out demons. If you had the gifts it would be the same as the Apostles had. You nor anyone else has these.
Dave I do have them...how can you say what I do or do not have....are you blind and dumb....why argue with a person who has them???
It would be just like Acts and the Apostles if anyone had the gifts. Raising the dead and healing twisted limbs.....
The very fact that it is happening today refutes your every erroneous theory.
Lets say God gives you a dream.
But here come the refuters.
They tell you "show me where anyone from iceland ever had a God dream in the bible."
Beyond obsurd
Jesus said...EXCEPT a man be born of WATER and SPIRIT..he canot enter the kingdom of God.
he also said...ye MUST be born again...
baptism is mandatory requirement...please watch the video.
that is good, the video it is just for further information and you can verify it with the scriptures.
Scripture directly supports this outline of the Holy Spirit and Gifts in Acts. Everything else you hear today is added to scripture.
The Gift of the Holy Spirit
I. given directly to all believers then and now for all time
II. Included the Baptism of the Holy Spirit for some during the first century
A. Given directly to the 12 Apostles
1. They spoke in tongues, prophesied and performed signs and wonders in Acts
a. Given to Philip by the Apostles.
b. He worked signs and wonders
c. Given to the Samaritans by the Apostles
B. Given directly to Paul as an Apostle
1. He worked signs and wonders
a. Baptism of the Holy Spirit Given to the Ephesians by Paul the Apostle
(1) They spoke in tongues and prophesied
C. Given directly to the Gentiles at Cornelius' house
1. they spoke in tongues and magnified God
The Gift of the Holy Spirit
I. given directly to all believers then and now for all time
II. Included the Baptism of the Holy Spirit for some during the first century
A. Given directly to the 12 Apostles
1. They spoke in tongues, prophesied and performed signs and wonders in Acts
a. Given to Philip by the Apostles.
b. He worked signs and wonders
c. Given to the Samaritans by the Apostles
B. Given directly to Paul as an Apostle
1. He worked signs and wonders
a. Baptism of the Holy Spirit Given to the Ephesians by Paul the Apostle
(1) They spoke in tongues and prophesied
C. Given directly to the Gentiles at Cornelius' house
1. they spoke in tongues and magnified God