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That's not what you said at all. You said we are under 1000s of commands, and you used the ones were not under to make your example. How does that say to anyone you believe we are dead to the law?
keep shaking your head, you'll be doing that alot until you start making some sense.
We are freed from the law of Moses, not the law of Chirst = Gal 6:2.
keep shaking your head, you'll be doing that alot until you start making some sense.
We are freed from the law of Moses, not the law of Chirst = Gal 6:2.
bye bye. May God's grace be with you.
If you walk after the Spirit you do not break the law every day, rather you fulfill it.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Love fulfills the law.
Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
A pure heart produce good fruit, it does not produce sin. That is why those who are born of God cannot sin, they cannot sin in the sense that to do so would mean they are no longer born of God.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
If you are walking after the Spirit you are not under the law.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
The law is for the sinner, not the righteous, the righteousness fulfill the law.
1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
Someone who is truly born again will not be yielding to their flesh in disobedience to God because they are born of God and have heart purity. They will not murder, steal, look at pornography, cheat, be greedy, etc. They won't do those things because they despise those things, they have the mind of Christ.
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Love fulfills the law.
Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
A pure heart produce good fruit, it does not produce sin. That is why those who are born of God cannot sin, they cannot sin in the sense that to do so would mean they are no longer born of God.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
If you are walking after the Spirit you are not under the law.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
The law is for the sinner, not the righteous, the righteousness fulfill the law.
1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
Someone who is truly born again will not be yielding to their flesh in disobedience to God because they are born of God and have heart purity. They will not murder, steal, look at pornography, cheat, be greedy, etc. They won't do those things because they despise those things, they have the mind of Christ.
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
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look I realize your 17 I thought the same way at one time. All I can say is study for yourself, and dont swallow everything people say including me, read for yourself II Tim 2:15. I used to believe someone I thought never could be wrong. But when I read for myself passages that didn't fit, and noticed the explanation he gave never made any real sense, I started all over and just read. Always keep in mind, when reading, who is being spoken too, what is the message, discern what is said to non Christians, and what was said to Christians.
My two cents,
Just read through these threads, and its the same old arguments from those who are in the system of lies, they refuse to read what we send and are in defense of sin everytime, because thay are born sinners, Jesus is thier remedy, and ant obedient faith from the pure heart is works to them.
I call it a labor of love! I call is a passion to love right before my God! I call in a privledge and an honor to read and understand His word theough His sipirt!
We reap what we sow in this life, we can choose to sin against God, and also chose not to, we can obey or sisobey, Jesus diddnt do this for us, He askes His true sheep to deny self, pick up thier cross and follow HIm!
Not in perfection, but in a heart made pure through faith and obedience to the truth. Gal 5-6. Those who say we can sin occasionally, and I mean wilful, premeditated, rebellion against God, and will not lose thier salvation are greatly deceived! Rev 18-20.
Most who disagree with us here, and have the nerve to call us swine, are blind to the truth, have bought into the lie of faith alone, OSAS, imputation etc,,, this is a false gospel leading many away from a right relationship with God.
We all need to examine ourselves to be sure we are in thr faith, and have actually repented and crucified our flesh with Christ, Gal 2-20.
Do you love the world still and all its vain attractions over God? many here who come against our repentance and faith proven by deeds message, I pray are not in bondage to sins of the flesh.
I sure could loose my secure position IN Christ if I fall into sin and disobedience, I have come out of a long life of sin, and rebellion to God, no one told me I had to repent or perish, that is why I do not attend an organized church, they are death traps, leading the blind into a ditch.
The good news is freedom from the bondages of sin! Not jesus looks the other way while I sin against Him, and pollute my mind with brain dead TV, sports, video games, witchcraft books, etc...
The curch today resembles the world over the house of God! Full of hyprocracy and sin, mixing the holy with the profane, and most of this is to blame on what is being taught as truth!
No real repentance, original sin, imputation, total depravity, osas, NOT TAUGHT BY THE EARLY CHURCH
Just read through these threads, and its the same old arguments from those who are in the system of lies, they refuse to read what we send and are in defense of sin everytime, because thay are born sinners, Jesus is thier remedy, and ant obedient faith from the pure heart is works to them.
I call it a labor of love! I call is a passion to love right before my God! I call in a privledge and an honor to read and understand His word theough His sipirt!
We reap what we sow in this life, we can choose to sin against God, and also chose not to, we can obey or sisobey, Jesus diddnt do this for us, He askes His true sheep to deny self, pick up thier cross and follow HIm!
Not in perfection, but in a heart made pure through faith and obedience to the truth. Gal 5-6. Those who say we can sin occasionally, and I mean wilful, premeditated, rebellion against God, and will not lose thier salvation are greatly deceived! Rev 18-20.
Most who disagree with us here, and have the nerve to call us swine, are blind to the truth, have bought into the lie of faith alone, OSAS, imputation etc,,, this is a false gospel leading many away from a right relationship with God.
We all need to examine ourselves to be sure we are in thr faith, and have actually repented and crucified our flesh with Christ, Gal 2-20.
Do you love the world still and all its vain attractions over God? many here who come against our repentance and faith proven by deeds message, I pray are not in bondage to sins of the flesh.
I sure could loose my secure position IN Christ if I fall into sin and disobedience, I have come out of a long life of sin, and rebellion to God, no one told me I had to repent or perish, that is why I do not attend an organized church, they are death traps, leading the blind into a ditch.
The good news is freedom from the bondages of sin! Not jesus looks the other way while I sin against Him, and pollute my mind with brain dead TV, sports, video games, witchcraft books, etc...
The curch today resembles the world over the house of God! Full of hyprocracy and sin, mixing the holy with the profane, and most of this is to blame on what is being taught as truth!
No real repentance, original sin, imputation, total depravity, osas, NOT TAUGHT BY THE EARLY CHURCH
My two cents,
Just read through these threads, and its the same old arguments from those who are in the system of lies, they refuse to read what we send and are in defense of sin everytime, because they are born sinners, Jesus is thier remedy, and any obedient faith from the pure heart is works to them.
I call it a labor of love! I call it a passion to live right before my God! I call it a privilege and an honor to read and understand His word through His spirit!
We reap what we sow in this life, we can choose to sin against God, and also chose not to, we can obey or disobey, Jesus didn't do this for us, He asks His true sheep to deny self, pick up thier cross and follow Him!
Not in perfection, but in a heart made pure through faith and obedience to the truth. Gal 5-6. Those who say we can sin occasionally, and I mean willful, premeditated, rebellion against God, and will not lose thier salvation are greatly deceived! Eze18-20.
Most who disagree with us here, and have the nerve to call us swine, are blind to the truth, have bought into the lie of faith alone, OSAS, imputation etc,,, this is a false gospel leading many away from a right relationship with God.
We all need to examine ourselves to be sure we are in the faith, and have actually repented and crucified our flesh with Christ, Gal 2-20.
Do you love the world still and all its vain attractions over God? many here who come against our repentance and faith proven by deeds message, I pray are not in bondage to sins of the flesh.
I sure could loose my secure position IN Christ if I fall into sin and disobedience, I have come out of a long life of sin, and rebellion to God, no one told me I had to repent or perish, that is why I do not attend an organized church, they are death traps, leading the blind into a ditch.
The good news is freedom from the bondages of sin! Not Jesus looks the other way while I sin against Him, and pollute my mind with brain dead TV, sports, video games, witchcraft books, etc...
The Church today resembles the world over the house of God! Full of hypocrisy and sin, mixing the holy with the profane, and most of this is to blame on what is being taught as truth!
No real repentance, original sin, imputation, total depravity, osas, NOT TAUGHT BY THE EARLY CHURCH, and making the gospel according to godliness void!
Rev 22:11 He acting unjustly, let him still act unjustly. And the filthy, let him be filthy still. And the righteous, let him be righteous still. And the holy, let him be holy still.
Rev 22:12 And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to each according as his work is.
You will be judged just as Jesus finds you, so stand fast, be alert, repent and seek His mercy, and come out and be seperate from all the false ways, and deception leading many away from truth!
Just read through these threads, and its the same old arguments from those who are in the system of lies, they refuse to read what we send and are in defense of sin everytime, because they are born sinners, Jesus is thier remedy, and any obedient faith from the pure heart is works to them.
I call it a labor of love! I call it a passion to live right before my God! I call it a privilege and an honor to read and understand His word through His spirit!
We reap what we sow in this life, we can choose to sin against God, and also chose not to, we can obey or disobey, Jesus didn't do this for us, He asks His true sheep to deny self, pick up thier cross and follow Him!
Not in perfection, but in a heart made pure through faith and obedience to the truth. Gal 5-6. Those who say we can sin occasionally, and I mean willful, premeditated, rebellion against God, and will not lose thier salvation are greatly deceived! Eze18-20.
Most who disagree with us here, and have the nerve to call us swine, are blind to the truth, have bought into the lie of faith alone, OSAS, imputation etc,,, this is a false gospel leading many away from a right relationship with God.
We all need to examine ourselves to be sure we are in the faith, and have actually repented and crucified our flesh with Christ, Gal 2-20.
Do you love the world still and all its vain attractions over God? many here who come against our repentance and faith proven by deeds message, I pray are not in bondage to sins of the flesh.
I sure could loose my secure position IN Christ if I fall into sin and disobedience, I have come out of a long life of sin, and rebellion to God, no one told me I had to repent or perish, that is why I do not attend an organized church, they are death traps, leading the blind into a ditch.
The good news is freedom from the bondages of sin! Not Jesus looks the other way while I sin against Him, and pollute my mind with brain dead TV, sports, video games, witchcraft books, etc...
The Church today resembles the world over the house of God! Full of hypocrisy and sin, mixing the holy with the profane, and most of this is to blame on what is being taught as truth!
No real repentance, original sin, imputation, total depravity, osas, NOT TAUGHT BY THE EARLY CHURCH, and making the gospel according to godliness void!
Rev 22:11 He acting unjustly, let him still act unjustly. And the filthy, let him be filthy still. And the righteous, let him be righteous still. And the holy, let him be holy still.
Rev 22:12 And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to each according as his work is.
You will be judged just as Jesus finds you, so stand fast, be alert, repent and seek His mercy, and come out and be seperate from all the false ways, and deception leading many away from truth!
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