Will There Be Sex in Heaven?
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Does anyone else wonder if there will only be one gender in Heaven? All angels seem to be male, and the bible always refers to Christians as "sons of God", not daughters. I don't think I'd be too surprised if there was only one gender, which would mean the question is irrelevant. Of course, this is opinion - the bible never explicitly states this.
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That does not make sense. Hermeneutics does not work that way. It's the opposite. It helps you explore the plausible and possible interpretations while eliminating those that are impossible or obviously wrong or that are highly unlikely.
The "Ah ha! Eureka!" moment comes when you discover irrefutable evidence and reasons that can be supported by the rules of hermeneutics. That's what the exercise is all about.
I would suggest that people try reading a book on hermeneutics and work through some of the exercises that these books will provide as examples. Once you have learned a little about how hermeneutics work, then comment on your opinion about hermeneutics.
You can have the last word. I am not interested in quarrelling or arguing. I post here under the illusion that I am helping people. LOL. If it is not received I have to move on. The servant of the Lord must not strive.
The "Ah ha! Eureka!" moment comes when you discover irrefutable evidence and reasons that can be supported by the rules of hermeneutics. That's what the exercise is all about.
I would suggest that people try reading a book on hermeneutics and work through some of the exercises that these books will provide as examples. Once you have learned a little about how hermeneutics work, then comment on your opinion about hermeneutics.
You can have the last word. I am not interested in quarrelling or arguing. I post here under the illusion that I am helping people. LOL. If it is not received I have to move on. The servant of the Lord must not strive.
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I keep an open mind because I want to live (the real meaning of living which goes beyond having fun). I sometimes feel like I have eyes all around my head. I can sense things that choke off life, freedom, happiness, and so I avoid them. A closed mind chokes off life.
Also, I'm not a people-pleaser, so I don't want to pretend to be better/greater than I am (which is one of the main reasons christians are close-minded on doctrines: pride and overly caring how others perceive you). In 2002, while working at a Rooms to Go Showrooms in Atlanta, GA, an interior designer came in one day to help set up the furniture (etc.) to make it look nicer to customers. She was supposed to be there maybe two weeks doing that. I started helping her set things up, because I have a natural talent for design. Get this: she was happy to have my help and didn't have a problem with me helping her... until it dawned on her that I actually knew what I was doing. She began to be uncomfortable and finally told me one day she didn't need my help anymore.
She had a whole college degree in interior design; I was just a houseman (the guys who wrap up and prepare to deliver any furniture a customer buys off the showroom floor (most showroom items, however, couldn't be ought and were only for show so if you wanted say a bed on the showroom floor, we would have it delivered to you from our warehouse). I had no right to be 'as good as her' when she was supposed to be 'better than me'. My freedom from needing to impress others allows me to learn more and faster than others. God put a lot of genius in our design and that's the way it works. The Bible also says about those who deny God's existence, "Believing themselves to be wise, they became fools" (Romans 1:22).
I cannot and will not attempt to begin to enumerate how true I have found this to be: the smarter a person thinks he is, the dumber he becomes (look at all the 'liberalized' and 'enlightened' students coming out of college for example); the more power a person thinks he has, the less power he has; the more superior a person thinks he is, the more inferior he becomes. Jesus hid this 'reverse principle' in many things He said not the least of which was when the apostles were debating which of them would be greatest in God's Kingdom:
Jesus called them to Himself and said to them, “You know that those who are considered rulers over the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you shall be your servant. And whoever of you desires to be first shall be slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many" (Mark 10:42-45).
The principle is said far more succinctly here after Jesus's disciples were arguing about which of them would be greatest in God's Kingdom:
"Who is greater, the one who reclines at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who reclines? But I am among you as one who serves" (Luke 22:27).
Humility is what allows people to access deeper spiritual truths (the Bible is replete with this truth, from Genesis to Revelation). Humility is attractive to God in a similar way that an attractive woman is attractive to a man. Just like a man with an attractive woman, he's favorably disposed toward her and will treat her better than he treats other women. In the same way, a person with humility makes God want to be near the person and to give them more than He would give to others to the point that others will say that the favored person doesn't deserve all the things God gives/has given them, because the favor is unmerited and free, the result of God's pleasure with the person (Joseph among his brothers is one good example). This is why the Bible says, **"God opposes the proud but gives Grace to the humble" (James 4:6).
Humility is not what most people seem to think it is. Humility has far more to do with the posture of one's heart than the way the person might appear on the surface. So, a humble person isn't going to 'look humble', and the word 'humble' doesn't mean a person is devoid of pride. God called Moses the meekest man on the planet in his time; yet, God banned Moses from entering the Promised Land because Moses acted in pride and therefore misrepresented God-- who is not proud-- to Israel.
* "God resists the proud but gives Grace to the humble" (1Peter 5:5).
* "He has no use for conceited people, but shows favor to those who are humble" (Proverbs 3:34).
Also, I'm not a people-pleaser, so I don't want to pretend to be better/greater than I am (which is one of the main reasons christians are close-minded on doctrines: pride and overly caring how others perceive you). In 2002, while working at a Rooms to Go Showrooms in Atlanta, GA, an interior designer came in one day to help set up the furniture (etc.) to make it look nicer to customers. She was supposed to be there maybe two weeks doing that. I started helping her set things up, because I have a natural talent for design. Get this: she was happy to have my help and didn't have a problem with me helping her... until it dawned on her that I actually knew what I was doing. She began to be uncomfortable and finally told me one day she didn't need my help anymore.
She had a whole college degree in interior design; I was just a houseman (the guys who wrap up and prepare to deliver any furniture a customer buys off the showroom floor (most showroom items, however, couldn't be ought and were only for show so if you wanted say a bed on the showroom floor, we would have it delivered to you from our warehouse). I had no right to be 'as good as her' when she was supposed to be 'better than me'. My freedom from needing to impress others allows me to learn more and faster than others. God put a lot of genius in our design and that's the way it works. The Bible also says about those who deny God's existence, "Believing themselves to be wise, they became fools" (Romans 1:22).
I cannot and will not attempt to begin to enumerate how true I have found this to be: the smarter a person thinks he is, the dumber he becomes (look at all the 'liberalized' and 'enlightened' students coming out of college for example); the more power a person thinks he has, the less power he has; the more superior a person thinks he is, the more inferior he becomes. Jesus hid this 'reverse principle' in many things He said not the least of which was when the apostles were debating which of them would be greatest in God's Kingdom:
Jesus called them to Himself and said to them, “You know that those who are considered rulers over the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you shall be your servant. And whoever of you desires to be first shall be slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many" (Mark 10:42-45).
The principle is said far more succinctly here after Jesus's disciples were arguing about which of them would be greatest in God's Kingdom:
"Who is greater, the one who reclines at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who reclines? But I am among you as one who serves" (Luke 22:27).
Humility is what allows people to access deeper spiritual truths (the Bible is replete with this truth, from Genesis to Revelation). Humility is attractive to God in a similar way that an attractive woman is attractive to a man. Just like a man with an attractive woman, he's favorably disposed toward her and will treat her better than he treats other women. In the same way, a person with humility makes God want to be near the person and to give them more than He would give to others to the point that others will say that the favored person doesn't deserve all the things God gives/has given them, because the favor is unmerited and free, the result of God's pleasure with the person (Joseph among his brothers is one good example). This is why the Bible says, **"God opposes the proud but gives Grace to the humble" (James 4:6).
Humility is not what most people seem to think it is. Humility has far more to do with the posture of one's heart than the way the person might appear on the surface. So, a humble person isn't going to 'look humble', and the word 'humble' doesn't mean a person is devoid of pride. God called Moses the meekest man on the planet in his time; yet, God banned Moses from entering the Promised Land because Moses acted in pride and therefore misrepresented God-- who is not proud-- to Israel.
* "God resists the proud but gives Grace to the humble" (1Peter 5:5).
* "He has no use for conceited people, but shows favor to those who are humble" (Proverbs 3:34).
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Somehow I mistakenly posted that unfinished response. Here's all of it:
Don't worry, you're in good company. Though I never pursued God for a wife (but God looks on the heart and knows I desire one), God has never spoken clearly to me about her.
I have told a few people, after God began to tell me to pray for my wife (between last September and now), that God has spoken clearly or clearly enough about everything I've asked Him about except a wife. When I've asked Him about her in the past, the only way I can explain it is a wedding veil. Of course, men don't put those on but if you were to look through a traditional wedding gown veil (not some modern type with huge holes in it), the unclear vision you'd have is the same vision I have. God has a veil over her and is hiding her from me (for now). I'm just thinking, "Wow, what's with the ceremony. Can we get to it already and get it over with please?"
So, if God hasn't spoken to you about sex in Heaven or a wife on earth, it's possibly just not time yet. I know that God doesn't want to say anything to me about my wife clearly right now. I'm not mistaken on that point. On May 5th this year, I felt a strong leading to pray about her. After I'd journaled what I received from God (I believe I did), which wasn't much, I wrote this in part about it in my Evernote app:
"I returned to pray but the anointing had evaporated, so I concluded that what I got in those five to ten minutes is all God wants to tell me about my wife right now."
God never gave me much about her (luckily, I'm not groaning and yearning, so I don't mind). It might be the same for you.
Don't worry, you're in good company. Though I never pursued God for a wife (but God looks on the heart and knows I desire one), God has never spoken clearly to me about her.
I have told a few people, after God began to tell me to pray for my wife (between last September and now), that God has spoken clearly or clearly enough about everything I've asked Him about except a wife. When I've asked Him about her in the past, the only way I can explain it is a wedding veil. Of course, men don't put those on but if you were to look through a traditional wedding gown veil (not some modern type with huge holes in it), the unclear vision you'd have is the same vision I have. God has a veil over her and is hiding her from me (for now). I'm just thinking, "Wow, what's with the ceremony. Can we get to it already and get it over with please?"
So, if God hasn't spoken to you about sex in Heaven or a wife on earth, it's possibly just not time yet. I know that God doesn't want to say anything to me about my wife clearly right now. I'm not mistaken on that point. On May 5th this year, I felt a strong leading to pray about her. After I'd journaled what I received from God (I believe I did), which wasn't much, I wrote this in part about it in my Evernote app:
"I returned to pray but the anointing had evaporated, so I concluded that what I got in those five to ten minutes is all God wants to tell me about my wife right now."
God never gave me much about her (luckily, I'm not groaning and yearning, so I don't mind). It might be the same for you.
God is both genders, so He won't eradicate one gender.
The Bible doesn't tell us about female angels, but that doesn't automatically disqualify the possibility. While what most people call demons are 'masculine', they aren't male. However, there are 'other spirits' (eg. principalities, territorial spirits, mermaid spirits (and mermen spirits), etc.) that definitely have genders-- male and female. One class of spirits where this is true are incubi (male spirits that have sex with women in their sleep) and succubi (female spirits that have sex with men in their sleep).
But in eternity, there will definitely be male and female.
The Bible doesn't tell us about female angels, but that doesn't automatically disqualify the possibility. While what most people call demons are 'masculine', they aren't male. However, there are 'other spirits' (eg. principalities, territorial spirits, mermaid spirits (and mermen spirits), etc.) that definitely have genders-- male and female. One class of spirits where this is true are incubi (male spirits that have sex with women in their sleep) and succubi (female spirits that have sex with men in their sleep).
But in eternity, there will definitely be male and female.
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I am 68, the desires and prayers have always been there, since before I was 20. When I went forward at church, I was 21. At that time I asked GOD for one thing, don't leave me in the singles life. It hasn't changed.
Interesting, angels can take human form. Can they take a male or female form?
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The sanctified version of sex does not exist in our world. Even in Christian marriages there are some issues, such as both not wanting sex at the same time, having different expectations, both being selfish in their own way, etc. Personally I don't want to see a bunch of lustful men in Heaven. So if sex is different from what I see here, then maybe.
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Good question.
13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.
This leads me to believe that we will recognize our brothers and sisters when we are reunited. I believe we will be changed to have some visible form but it will be perfect and better than what our physical bodies look like now.
I am guessing that we will not have sex organs or other bodily organs that we need now but we will still have some form of "female, or male" identity only not in a class system or one having authority over the other... There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus... which is a text about how we are accepted in the kingdom of God on equal footing.
So I am going with spiritual female and spiritual male identities that have nothing to do with sex organs.
But he did say he made man in his image, male and female he made them. I have not researched what scriptures say about this or what others have discovered who have asked this before but my initial ideas are that we will in some way retain the male and female identity for all eternity as Man > Male and Female.
I would never tell a woman that she will be a man in heaven. That just does not sound holy at all.
13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.
This leads me to believe that we will recognize our brothers and sisters when we are reunited. I believe we will be changed to have some visible form but it will be perfect and better than what our physical bodies look like now.
I am guessing that we will not have sex organs or other bodily organs that we need now but we will still have some form of "female, or male" identity only not in a class system or one having authority over the other... There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus... which is a text about how we are accepted in the kingdom of God on equal footing.
So I am going with spiritual female and spiritual male identities that have nothing to do with sex organs.
But he did say he made man in his image, male and female he made them. I have not researched what scriptures say about this or what others have discovered who have asked this before but my initial ideas are that we will in some way retain the male and female identity for all eternity as Man > Male and Female.
I would never tell a woman that she will be a man in heaven. That just does not sound holy at all.
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I hear you friend.
About angels, we see examples if them appearing in two ways.
A. In a glorified state which usually frightens people...
B. Appearance as men.
They are always described as masculine in the Bible in spite of artists conceptions.
In these appearances, people don't usually recognize them as angels, although they may reveal that they are messengers of God.
In one example, the Lord Jesus took two angels with him on a mission to speak with Abraham before going to Sodom to rescue Lot's family from the coming judgement upon the cities of that plain.
Even all of the males young and old did not recognize them as angels after being blinded by them.
The only references to female angels that I am aware of are in extra-biblical /non Biblical writings, false religions, artwork, and people's testimonies of feminine angels appearing to them. I believe the latter to be demonic manifestations, fallen angels.
About angels, we see examples if them appearing in two ways.
A. In a glorified state which usually frightens people...
B. Appearance as men.
They are always described as masculine in the Bible in spite of artists conceptions.
In these appearances, people don't usually recognize them as angels, although they may reveal that they are messengers of God.
In one example, the Lord Jesus took two angels with him on a mission to speak with Abraham before going to Sodom to rescue Lot's family from the coming judgement upon the cities of that plain.
Even all of the males young and old did not recognize them as angels after being blinded by them.
The only references to female angels that I am aware of are in extra-biblical /non Biblical writings, false religions, artwork, and people's testimonies of feminine angels appearing to them. I believe the latter to be demonic manifestations, fallen angels.
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