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My humble opinion it is far more sinful. It has nothing to do with God's love. Physical love between married people to bring new life into this world is beautiful. The other is purely giving over to sins of the flesh...
I am not claiming to know how God sees this. Simply my opinion the one has no place ever the other has a beautiful place in this world by bringing forth life.
God bless,
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didnt bother reading too much into your posts. you have to excuse my carelessness.Mary Magdalene is not Jesus' mother.
I read an article online fairly recently, that said that there had to be moral instructions given in the NT scriptures, because those of the gentiles had never received any of the Jewish instructions. Called paganistic in behaviour. Hence the reason for Peter and Paul both to write those things.
The truth though of being born from above is a change of nature that results in Godly behaviour that is from a heavenly origin that cannot be taught by laws, but is the result of being connected in our very makeup of character...God within.
Again...
Gal 3:27
For as many of you as were immersed into Messiah have put on Messiah.
Gal 3:28
There is not Yehuḏite nor Greek, there is not slave nor free, there is not male and female, for you are all one in Messiah יהושע.
Gal 3:29
And if you are of Messiah, then you are seed of Aḇraham, and heirs according to promise.
and from Jesus..
Luk 20:34
And יהושע answering, said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage,
Luk 20:35
but those who are counted worthy of attaining that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are they given in marriage,
Luk 20:36
for neither is it possible for them to die any more, because they are like messengers and are sons of Elohim, being sons of the resurrection.
Luk 20:37
"But that the dead are raised, even Mosheh showed at the bush when he called יהוה ‘the Elohim of Aḇraham, and the Elohim of Yitsḥaq, and the Elohim of Yaʽaqoḇ.’
Luk 20:38
"Now He is not the Elohim of the dead, but of the living, for all live to Him."
We are of the resurrection now if we have been baptized into Him. So we have eternal life now. Both men and women are spirit, no gender in spirit. So if Holy Spirit anoints one or the other to speak....Speak.
Don't bind or quench Him with manmade rules.
The truth though of being born from above is a change of nature that results in Godly behaviour that is from a heavenly origin that cannot be taught by laws, but is the result of being connected in our very makeup of character...God within.
Again...
Gal 3:27
For as many of you as were immersed into Messiah have put on Messiah.
Gal 3:28
There is not Yehuḏite nor Greek, there is not slave nor free, there is not male and female, for you are all one in Messiah יהושע.
Gal 3:29
And if you are of Messiah, then you are seed of Aḇraham, and heirs according to promise.
and from Jesus..
Luk 20:34
And יהושע answering, said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage,
Luk 20:35
but those who are counted worthy of attaining that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are they given in marriage,
Luk 20:36
for neither is it possible for them to die any more, because they are like messengers and are sons of Elohim, being sons of the resurrection.
Luk 20:37
"But that the dead are raised, even Mosheh showed at the bush when he called יהוה ‘the Elohim of Aḇraham, and the Elohim of Yitsḥaq, and the Elohim of Yaʽaqoḇ.’
Luk 20:38
"Now He is not the Elohim of the dead, but of the living, for all live to Him."
We are of the resurrection now if we have been baptized into Him. So we have eternal life now. Both men and women are spirit, no gender in spirit. So if Holy Spirit anoints one or the other to speak....Speak.
Don't bind or quench Him with manmade rules.
That's a nice scripture & all but you & I both know just by reading the epistles that Paul wrote in detail about issues that were in some churches & not in others.
"my ways which are in Christ, just as I teach everywhere in every church" speaks about the plan of salvation given to & affirmed again by Paul & the other apostles
1 Corinthians 1:23 (KJV) [SUP]23 [/SUP]But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1 Corinthians 2:2 (KJV) [SUP]2 [/SUP]For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Jude 1:3 (NASB) [SUP]3 [/SUP]Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints.
Jesus choose a woman as the first teacher of the gospel of the Risen Christ. I'm wondering if that offends you?
The prohibition of 1Cor 14 is locative - keep silent IN the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak IN church.
This says nothing about what she is permitted to teach outside that setting. Remember the example we have from Acts 18:2-4, " 24Now a Jew named Apollos, an Alexandrian by birth, an eloquent man, came to Ephesus; and he was mighty in the Scriptures. 25This man had been instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in spirit, he was speaking and teaching accurately the things concerning Jesus, being acquainted only with the baptism of John; 26and he began to speak out boldly in the synagogue. But when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately. 27And when he wanted to go across to Achaia, the brethren encouraged him and wrote to the disciples to welcome him; and when he had arrived, he greatly helped those who had believed through grace, 28for he powerfully refuted the Jews in public, demonstrating by the Scriptures that Jesus was the Christ.."
Being a pastor is a position of authority and women are not to exercise authority over men therefore we are not to be pastors in a church. God has designed different roles for men and women, He established male leadership in the church and home, but unfortunately it seems like in our society gender role distinction is becoming blurry and liberalism is infiltrating the church. Instead of leading a church, older women can devote their time to caring for and counselling other women, teaching the young ones and children at home the way of God, and being godly homemakers. As a Christian, I'd rather submit to God's word even though it's not a popular view out there than campaign for worldliness.
This thread is difficult for me. As a girl I know Jesus has plans for me to serve. I also know that I am not called to lead or minister in the way that disobeys scripture.
However, I respect the women that believe they are called. For me it's a matter of obedience. I am not saying anyone else is not being obedient. That's where I get confused. How can I say God's word tells me to not speak in a church but say I can only speak for me? I truly don't know.
Simply put, to all who have assisted me by answering questions. Brothers and sisters from both perspectives I respect your view point and even understand it. Yet I still in God's word find scripture dedicated directly to the ministry of churches. The best explanation of this has been that scripture is interpreted wrong in language translation. I however put faith in my KJV Bible being absolute truth in what it says and trust The Holy Spirit to guide me while reading it. I do not claim to know more than the scholars but I do feel Jesus will never let me down. He will place in my heart the meaning of His word.
God bless and love you all with no judgement,
Lexi
However, I respect the women that believe they are called. For me it's a matter of obedience. I am not saying anyone else is not being obedient. That's where I get confused. How can I say God's word tells me to not speak in a church but say I can only speak for me? I truly don't know.
Simply put, to all who have assisted me by answering questions. Brothers and sisters from both perspectives I respect your view point and even understand it. Yet I still in God's word find scripture dedicated directly to the ministry of churches. The best explanation of this has been that scripture is interpreted wrong in language translation. I however put faith in my KJV Bible being absolute truth in what it says and trust The Holy Spirit to guide me while reading it. I do not claim to know more than the scholars but I do feel Jesus will never let me down. He will place in my heart the meaning of His word.
God bless and love you all with no judgement,
Lexi
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shes not teaching. shes not asking questions. shes arguing and making insults. slander is not part of teaching.
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You didn't look very well. I stated it already.
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yea praus. i think this is where you take the back seat and ask questions and control your tongue.
Well sir, it depends. Inside of marriage?
Heb 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
Outside of marriage? Fornication or adultery.
1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
2Pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
Fellatio outside of marriage is sin.
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once again, my comments go misunderstood. last time this happened, it was a slug fest.. one sided slug fest with all the christians judging and slandering me over something they completely misunderstood.. got so bad that a mod had to close it and even he saw what i was saying and how i was acting and how all of you jumped to conclusions.
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