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engage (I think you certainly qualify as having a combination of Spock, Bones, and the Captain. Having said that, I won't turn down the role. I always thought it'd be neat to sit in the Captain's seat lol. Also, that'll free you up to keep the ship going on these Whangdoodle missions with your superior knowledge and endearing cynicism. A mission to boldly go where no Whangdoodle has gone before! I hear the old Star Trek intro music playing in my mind as I type.

You are definitely right about grandpa!

I might come out of retirement if we can get a high tech submarine. Can you imagine the fun of warring against aquatic Whangdoodles in that? Maybe besides ballistic missiles it can also be outfitted with some futuristic weaponry. Or did I just come up with another incredibly silly idea :unsure: Maybe I can just just fight the Whangdoodles with silliness lol.)
 
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betroth (Thanks, and welcome back aboard, Chieftess Of Lassooing and Defenestration (COLD for short) CarriePie. Sadly, I had to eject Grandpa from our high tech submarine for the crime of ogling. You can take his captain's chair.

The aquatic Whangdoodle already took care of the ill-fated gal of yellow polka-dot fame, so I fortunately did not have to eject her also.

You'll be pleased to know that High Command has given the all-clear to wage war against the Whangdoodles with ballistic missiles and other futuristic weaponry. One of our new lasers is so high tech and accurate, it can defenestrate a contagion of Whangdoodles at 5km. I will need to clear with the Admiral whether we can utilise silliness in our war against the Whangdoodles. I personally believe it is a smashing idea, but you know how the top brass might sometimes have to pander to the naive whims of politicians and bureaucrats, and perfectly effective weapons must be put aside for appearances of humanity and not partaking in a Whangdoodle genocide...)
 

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embark (Thanks! The strategy of Spock with perhaps the cynicism of Bones? Where I fall down is the charisma of Kirk, which is where you come in, oh Great Chieftess of Lassoing, Defenestration and Elimination.

The more I think about Grandpa, the more I hope either the gal in the teeny, weenie, yellow, polkadot bikini is pretty old, or Grandpa is somehow pretty young, and obviously, a widower. 'Cause if not, Grandpa really needs a stern talking to.

But yes, there are aquatic Whangdoodles, yes, they've pretty much invaded all of America and yes, this new saga has every likelihood of turning into something like an Aquaman movie. I hope you're willing to be brought out of retirement for the occasion? I know you're not in this for the money, but I've had a chat with the Finance Director, and he's willing to increase the daily allowance by 20% and throw in a paid rostered day off every week if you say yes...)
Blue - the word with which this game embarked :^)
 

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betroth (Thanks, and welcome back aboard, Chieftess Of Lassooing and Defenestration (COLD for short) CarriePie. Sadly, I had to eject Grandpa from our high tech submarine for the crime of ogling. You can take his captain's chair.

The aquatic Whangdoodle already took care of the ill-fated gal of yellow polka-dot fame, so I fortunately did not have to eject her also.

You'll be pleased to know that High Command has given the all-clear to wage war against the Whangdoodles with ballistic missiles and other futuristic weaponry. One of our new lasers is so high tech and accurate, it can defenestrate a contagion of Whangdoodles at 5km. I will need to clear with the Admiral whether we can utilise silliness in our war against the Whangdoodles. I personally believe it is a smashing idea, but you know how the top brass might sometimes have to pander to the naive whims of politicians and bureaucrats, and perfectly effective weapons must be put aside for appearances of humanity and not partaking in a Whangdoodle genocide...)
marry (I'm thankful that you've ejected Grandpa. The ill-fated gal may have suffered a better fate than if she'd have had to marry Grandpa or even a Whangdoodle. I must say, I'm not sure I want to be sitting in that particular captain's chair now though. I think I'm going to order a new one. Maybe a fancy one, with a seat warmer. I don't want to get too COLD.

I'm impressed that you got the High Command to agree to our terms, and even with high tech lasers! I now know why you told me back during the beginning of my days here that you are the master lol. Impressive! But really, I don't think I can do anything without silliness. This is why you have to be the Spock of the situation. I'll have to slap the High Command around [figurative speaking] with some silliness until they feel silly not allowing silliness.

It's good to be back on board, Moses! Let the aquatic Whangdoodle defenestrating commence! With all of silliness lasered right into their hearts. May all the silliness implode them.)
 
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unite (Yes, the High Command might know a thing or two about futuristic lasers and ballistic missiles, but when it comes to employing these weapons to be of most effect against the Whangdoodles, they are cautious to disregard the prompting of the two foremost experts in the field of Whangdoodling (that's us, btw!)

I also had a little chat with our mutual friend the Admiral, and he's come around to accepting that we're going to be utilising the technique of silliness in our noble fight. He didn't like it, and I could see his mustache twitch angrily as I explained it would be he who would need to explain to High Command that the reason the two internationally renowned Whangdoodling experts had so quickly resigned their commissions - leaving the United States and the wider international community open to the nefarious aquatic Whangdoodle threat in this hour of need - was due to the fastidiousness of one particular Admiral.

However, despite his obvious disdain, he also grudgingly acknowledged the superiority of our expertise in the matter, and the strategy of silliness is now another tactic we can employ to dire effect against the new aquatic pestilence!

My fellow Americans, the aquatic Whangdoodling storm is upon us!!!)
 

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coalesce (Moses, your incredible ability to handle this situation and get things going in our direction is beyond compare. You even faced the angry twitching mustache! That alone deserves medals of honor!

I must say, that to say the Chieftess is impressed is an understatement. Without your expertise, we'd be run amok with Whangdoodles (aquatic or otherwise) and silliness would be a thing that could only be longed for!

I humbly confess though, the Chieftess has recently fell off into a pothole of my own foolishness which resulted in lies made about my character, and right here on CC! At first, I thought I'd hang my head in shame and tell you I'm not worthy of being apart of this superior duo. But, blast that! If you are willing to see past this regrettable episode of mine, I'll raise my laser sword of silliness and fight on with an even greater fortitude than before! I know I certainly feel at one with silliness these days.

We need no weak links, especially the Chieftess! I feel like Kirk in that episode called Requiem for Methuselah. If only you could do that thing Spock did to Kirk and erase this foolishness from my brain I'd be most efficient as we proceed forward in our conquests. Then perhaps, with your mercy, I can resume my place again in our duo of superiority against this mighty Whangdoodling storm. Mind you, I believe you are the far superior part of this duo!
While we are talking mercy, there'll be no mercy to the Whangdoodle pestilence! And no mercy to this ghastly aquatic Whangdoodle storm that lies before us!)
 
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meld (Thank you, CarriePie. I think you would have been morbidly fascinated. Even the Admiral himself seemed mildly taken aback, as he watched it wriggling and writhing there on the floor in its death throes, after my blade smote the parasitic creature from its perch atop his weathered mouth. I think he may have muttered something as I left his office after delivering my terms, but I did overhear his his secretary mention that he looked much younger...

I am sorry to hear of the pothole of your own foolishness into which you recently fell, but if it helps, I have an entire street paved with such potholes of my own foolishness, into which I fall on a regular basis. As for you being unworthy to be a part of our superior duo, firstly, I must advise you that I disagree with your assessment of your worth (it is much higher), and secondly, I must advise that even if your assessment were correct, our duo has nothing to do with your worth anyway. So remove thine foot from thy pothole of folly, equip thy hands with a pail full of the bitumen of wisdom, and pave thou thy pothole from the streetside of CarriePie (or whatever street name it is so called). Also, raise thou thy laser sword of silliness, to perform precision swordsmanship attacks on the black and loathing hearts of the aquatic Whangdoodles against which we now wage war!

P.S. If you will just sit down for a moment, I will do unto you as Spock did unto Captain Kirk, and erase the memory of this foolishness from your brain - but not the wisdom so learned! :p)
 

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fusion (Not only did I find your first paragraph morbidly fascinating and humorous, but your impressive action was exquisitely audacious.

A thought came to mind. And then many more thoughts followed. I don't know if you've seen articles and/or pictures that come up from time to time about the very odd creatures that have been located in the depths of the ocean. According to the National Geographic Society, more than 80 percent of the ocean hasn't been mapped, explored, or even seen by humans. I think we should have a team of scientists on our high tech underwater vessel. Not only are we doing a superior job of making the world a better place by eradicating the Whangdoodles on land and sea, but we could also be making scientific advancement in the world of deep oceanic studies. Why, there could be aquatic Whangdoodle hybrids hiding in the depths! I suggest our scientists come up with deep ocean robots that exceed the most advanced robots currently exploring the ocean. I think I've read that the furthest a deep ocean robot has gone is a wee bit shy of 7 miles. We can work on advancing the depth our robots can travel and possibly even eventually equipping them with lasers.

Of course, we have to consider the obstacle of water pressure when comes to deep ocean robots. I haven't even pondered whether aquatic Whangdoodles can exist in such a high pressure climate. Perhaps I'm taking our mission on too many levels. Maybe I wanted some science with my silliness. Or maybe all is silliness. Didn't Solomon say, "Vanity of vanities, all is vanity"? I suppose the Chieftess would say, "Silliness of silliness, all is silliness!"

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Moses, word game and Whangdoodles aside, I truly thank you for your healing words. I feel humbled to be the receiver of them. I know we all step off into the pothole of foolishness from time to time, but I felt as if I were the biggest fool in these threads. Did grief cloud my direction? Possibly, but I'll try to not be one who makes excuses. In any case, your words helped me to feel confident in my presence here again. In this way, you did actually erase the memory of my foolishness. Thus, I'll say what I've said in this thread before: I think if anyone is smashing, you certainly are. Bless you.)
 
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unification (Thank you. Time was of the essence, and as you know, our friend the Admiral certainly has the ability for stalling unless it is quite clear that some things are non-negotiable.

As a Flat Earther, my view is the ocean is really what "space" is made out to be - the great unexplored, although I have enjoyed various series of Star Trek, Star Wars, and all sorts of other science-fiction. I think the National Geographic Society in this case is correct, in that vast expanses of the oceans are unexplored.

I'm sure there are all sorts of amazing and dangerous creatures hidden in the great depths. I'm probably more readily deceived because I don't like to dismiss claims without some sort of reason. The stories of the ancient sailors encountering enormous monsters the size of islands, and who didn't even realise the monsters were monsters until they lit a fire on what they thought was a beach (lol!) - sure, people can make those stories up, but is this one made up? And then definitely the stories about the giant octopus-type sea monsters with many tentacles attacking ships... Your first task can be recruiting the scientific research team, and I'll get to work designing our deep ocean robot drones to operate the new defenestrating lasers.

While I don't think even the fiercest of the aquatic Whangdoodles would be able to survive in its bare skin in the crushing ocean depths, the aquatic Whangdoodles can get quite technical, having invented all manner of machines to transfer them about the ocean. I would imagine much of our war against the aquatic Whangdoodles will be waged in submersible vessels, rather than swimming in the ocean itself, but I guess it may depend on the silliness level?

You certainly are not the biggest fool in these threads, nor a fool at all in my opinion. I have much respect for you - with the video you posted, with your fearless openness, with some of the things you say - I think you have qualities many here wish they possessed. I believe grief still may cloud your view, and that it may for some time to come - I'm not an expert in this field, but deep scars can take years to fully heal. If you feel confident once again, I'm glad, because you should! You are a smashing Chieftess, and one the aquatic Whangdoodles are already in fear of! :) )
 

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fusion (I enjoy old stories of men of the sea coming across unknown creatures. I believe that not all these stories are fabrications. As a creationist, I believe that dinosaurs survived for at least a short period of time after the Great Flood. I think some survived longer and that's where we likely get some legends of old. Dragon legends, etc. Aquatic dinosaurs must have also survived for a certain amount of time after the Flood. Maybe we'll even discover some on our mission. Actually, I was hoping we'd run across a living saccorhytus coronarius until I learned it's microscopic and then it didn't seem fun anymore. Maybe I should make some spy robots fashioned in the likeness of a saccorhytus coronarius, but larger. Since it looks sort of grotesque like the Whangdoodles, they'd probably think nothing of it.

I've gotten a team of scientist lined up. They are not only specialists in their fields, but they assure me that all their work includes ample amounts of silliness. I've recruited marine biologists and marine chemists, as well as other branches of marine sciences. And even oceanic seismologists. It could be that the aquatic Whangdoodles have some underwater operation going on that's causing strange phenomena in our oceans. We could get to the very source of their nefarious operation. Additionally, I've called a specialist in ocean science in the Antarctic area, for those times we'll have to explore the ghastly cold ocean climates.

Since you brought up Flat Earth and space, I'd like to ask a question if I may. Does vast space fit into the Flat Earth model? When I envisioned it in my mind, there was no contradiction. Now that you mention it and after doing an online search it seems that it doesn't fit in? Forgive me for lacking knowledge in this area and getting off topic.

Thank you again, Moses! I hold you and your informed input in these threads in the highest regard. At the same time, your witty humor is a blessing. I say blessing, because the first time I felt an actual feeling of happiness since my grief began was a day when we were having a lively conversation full of silliness. And while I had laughed at various things prior to that, that was the first day I felt genuinely happy. Moses, your presence is truly a gift. Of course, the Whangdoodles don't agree with me on that, but that makes it all the better!)
 
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(I never studied history, but there are some great stories to learn of the past - the tricky bit is understanding which are true, and which are false. I believe dragons - or some of the creatures spoken of in the bible - survived until after the flood. Beowolf and the dragon is a story attributed as a myth (written during a post flood world, I believe), but I wonder if all of it was myth. There are also claims of sightings of dinosaur-like creatures over the past century. I think one of the Creation magazines published an account from the late 1800s of a flying, black, "bat-like" creature, with a wingspan measuring several meters, dying soon after a tunnel was blasted by railway workers. With what I've read of dinosaurs (i.e. discovered only over the past 200 years), I'm not sure which of these are real (and which were faked for money), but I definitely believe in dragon-type creatures and the leviathan and behemoth creatures described in the bible.

I had to look up the "saccorhytus coronarius", and was amused that its name comes from words meaning bag, wrinkle and "of a crown"? Lol. I guess my decades of battling Whangdoodles have desensitised me to the grotesqueness of all but the most Whangdoodliest of creatures, and my main concern with this one would be its spikes. Fortunately, it's microscopic, so hopefully its not too painful if we accidentally tread on it? :p The Whangdoodles, on the other hand, have neither the usefulness of a bag nor the regality of a crown. They sure do have lots of wrinkles, though. Indeed, early Whangdoodle dermatologists, in an endeavour to be helpful to their fellow, wrinkle-infested, Whangdoodle-kind - invented various skin-care products to help eliminate their wrinkles. However, the lotions and potions were quickly banned from the Whangdoodlian markets when the Whangdoodle Food and Drug Administration realised that because Whangdoodles were comprised entirely of wrinkles, the products when applied were causing entire Whangdoodles to decompose into a disgusting, sticky goo, similiar to melted elastic, but much worse-smelling!

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I think if your spy robots are fashioned in the likeness of saccorhytus coronarius (but much larger!) they will be very successful!

You did great work to get the scientists organised so quickly. Also on ensuring that they come with ample amounts of silliness. Silliness of sillinesses, as king Solomon might have said, right? If he was in a good mood! :p

I'm still not clear on what strange phenomena the aquatic Whangdoodles are causing in our oceans, but I'm sure the marine biologists, marine chemists, and oceanic seismologists will be able to explain shortly...

Space doesn't really feature in Flat Earth theory. It could be there, but its not necessary to the theory, and is probably more unhelpful if it does exist. Certainly, if NASAs photographs of the entire Earth are to be believed (or indeed any real photographs showing a spherical Earth), it would be damning to the Flat Earth belief. So while there is no consistent belief amongst Flat Earthers as to what is where space is claimed to be, my own belief is that Heaven is really in the place where scientists believe "space" is.

I believe there is some sort of dome or solid surface in the sky - the firm-ament - separating the waters above from the waters below (as described in Genesis 1). Operation "Fishbowl" was a series of high-altitude nuclear tests in 1962 that were carried out by the United States as a part of the larger Operation Dominic nuclear test program where they were detonating nuclear weapons in the sky. Odd name for an operation, (and actually an odd and dangerous thing to do), unless the purpose of the operation was to try to break through the firmament (i.e. the "fishbowl")? That is my belief.

In Flat Earth theory, Antarctica surrounds the Flat Earth. There are some accounts (unconfirmed) that whistleblowers from government projects working far into Antarctica have witnessed what is called sky-ice, which could be the substance from which the firmament is made. It is said to be a blue colour like the sky, and very cold (too cold to transport, so it must be studied in Antarctica). It is said that it doesn't melt, but rather sublimes.

And I'm glad I have been able to make you feel happy! :) )
 

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padlock (As in combination padlock. I don't know about anyone else, but I always hated those types of locks.

I certainly agree with your first paragraph. And as for those adorable critters in the second paragraph, I find those things to be incredibly interesting. I'm convinced that many robotic spy saccorhytus coronarius need to be created. I can see them getting about the ocean undetected. They could be a great asset. I will be sure to have them programmed to stay away from the master. Thus, you've no need to worry about painful spikes! But, thank you for bringing that up. I think the spikes idea might be a great feature for our saccorhytus coronarius spies. The spikes will protect the spy camera within. The spikes could also be made to be dangerous to the aquatic Whangdoodles, maybe the spikes could shoot lasers if they come in contact with any Whangdoodles that figure them out. Another thought came to mind. If the spikes have some kind of Whangdoodle virus, the saccorhytus coronarius may infect just one Whangdoodle and spread the virus through the entire population. Yes, these robotic spy saccorhytus coronarius are going to be very useful in more ways than one.

Thank you for answering my question! I am fascinated with deep space, so I've probably brought it up. Excuse me if I've interjected it into the Whangdoodle saga! I have to admit, I was kinda hoping for Whangdoodle space exploration after we clear the oceans. I'll be alright though. I'll just have a few Whangdoodle Wipe Outs and forget about it lol.

Your bit about Antarctica is fascinating! I'm picturing it in my mind. That's another area of study that enthralls me. I can't help but wonder what is hidden under all that ice. Probably some seriously devastating Whangdoodle mystery. I used to think that it would be a great adventure to go on one of those South Pole Expeditions (or whatever the equivalent is in the Flat Earth model). I feel like I'm physically stronger and have better stamina than when I was younger, however as I get older cold temperatures are becoming less and less appealing for any such adventures.

About 2 or 3 months ago, I subscribed to Paramount. I don't watch tv and I'm not usually into shows (particularly newer shows), but I've been drawn into the Tulsa King show. I might be bias due to it being shot here in Oklahoma and I've been liking the action of the show. Just because of that one show, I subscribed to a channel lol. Talk about silliness! Anyway, I bring it up not because of Tulsa King, but because I decided to look for other things on there to watch and have been watching a show from 2013 called Under the Dome. When you mentioned dome, I thought of that show. And I'm reminded of how those who study social engineering tells us that shows/movies reveal things to us. Of course, it could all be coincidence, but your mention of a dome made me think...wouldn't it be interesting if that show was trying to tell us something lol.

Of course, this also means we are trapped under a dome with Whangdoodles! :eek: )
 
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I will leave it to your scientific team to decide with what to arm the spikes for the robotic spy saccorhytus coronariuses. My preference would be lasers, because a virus might get out of hand and cause problems for us later on... For example, if we are causing a Whangdoodle civil war, with the blue Whangdoodles angry at the red Whangdoodles, it would ruin the civil war if the blue Whangdoodles all died out from a virus before the civil war could start. Although I guess, the virus might similarly perform beyond our expectations and wipe out both blue and red Whangdoodles from the face of all Whangdoodlia, and even the aquatic Whangdoodles from the sea of Whangdoodlia. If that happened, we might only be left with "deep space" Whangdoodles - those Whangdoodles which inhabit the gap between Earth and the firmament. It might not be quite as deep as the deep space you imagined, but I'm sure it's plenty deep enough to harbour contagions upon contagions of Whangdoodles.

There are all sorts of interesting theories about Antarctica. Some say it marks the edge of the world (and possibly where the firmament comes into contact with the land). Others believe it is simply a ring of land circumscribing the known oceans, and beyond it are even further oceans (and lands) to explore. Both ball-Earth and Flat-Earth have an Antarctica, but it is much larger on Flat Earth, so there is more to explore. On a ball-Earth, if you explore too far, you just wrap around to the other side, which isn't much fun. On a Flat Earth, you just keep going (if you don't bump into the firmament), so you might encounter giants, or sirens, or a Kraken, or any manner of as yet undiscovered creatures - the "here there be dragons" marked on the old maps is an apt description of what might be found.

I will have to watch out for the Tulsa King - as I hadn't heard of it. But I am reminded of the Truman show. When I first watched it, I believed it was silly, and an abstract "what if" type movie. Later in life, I realised how true it was and how conditioned we are by the media and programming not to explore and to accept the just-so stories we are told.)
 

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I can't imagine you've ever been worse with combination locks than me! I used to work where we were given a locker with a combination lock. I worked there 10 years and never used my locker, and I don't think I ever even bothered to figure out where my locker was just because I hate combination locks! Fortunately, I am not the type of woman who needs a lot of stuff, so it didn't bother me to not have a locker. Even so, how silly is that? The more I think about, the more I think I'm actually the Chieftess of Silliness!

I will go with your wisdom concerning the spikes of the robotic spy saccorhytus coronariuses. I think lasers will be plenty enough to offer a hit to the Whangdoodle population. Combined with your superior deep ocean robotic drones, it'll be a fatal hit. The Whangdoodles are more in jeopardy the more advanced we make our robots.

Are you saying that some sort of "deep space" exploration is possible? Oh, well, nevermind that! After reading your description of the Flat Earth Antarctica, I actually more interested in that now. That seemed almost poetic. I got a bit dreamy! Mind you, I admittedly still espouse to CMI's stance on this topic. But, I must say that exploring the Antarctica in a Flat Earth Model sounds incredibly fascinating. I'd really start training for exploration! Larger and more to explore? I'm almost salivating at the thought. Fantastical images fill my mind.
Have you seen the movie Xfiles: Fight the Future(1998)? I don't want to spoil the movie, but they go to the Antarctica and discover something quite astounding buried under the ice. And as crazy as it might sound, I wouldn't doubt that in real life there really is something shocking hidden there.

If you like action, you might find Tulsa King entertaining. My favorite episode is season 1 episode 3. In this episode, Stallone is taking his driving test. Someone is out to kill him and fires into the vehicle hitting the driving examiner on the head. So, Stallone chases the perp while the driving examiner keeps screaming hysterically for him to take him to the hospital. At some point, Stallone is stuck in a traffic jam as the perp is getting away. Stallone touches the bloody wound on the driving examiner and uses the blood to write on the windshield. The driving examiner shrieks, "What are you doing?!?" Stallone says, "I got a partial plate." lol)
 
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bones (You probably imagine correctly. While I don't like combination locks, I did tend to get them eventually. I mainly used them for my bike, which was never stolen. This was in my younger days when I rode a bike.

I wrote to one of the Creation ministries once on a Flat Earth article, and they recorded my response online as one of their comments. My response was under a pseudonym, obviously, as I didn't want them tracking me down to where I live on CC and finding out all manner of things about me which might later be used against me. Anyway, my argument was along the lines of acceleration - if the Earth is accelerating as fast as is required by the Heliocentric model, we'd be able to feel it (think racing car). Their rebuttal was essentially "Oh, the Earth is so big, the acceleration is too small to feel", only if you do the numbers, it's actually not. I sent a rebuttal to their rebuttal, but I guess they'd gotten tired of me by that stage and probably threw my rebuttal in an electronic bin for recycling, or flagged it as spam or whatever it is they do with unwanted mail.

Anyhow, that was my short encounter with trying to bring CMI around to a more Flat Earth way of thinking, but from what I understand, they're not so easily convinced.

I haven't seen the X-Files movie you talked about, but I probably should. There is so much international government cooperation to prevent people exploring Antarctica, so I'm sure there is at least one incredible finding there - possibly more! Some companies do offer so-called "tourist expeditions" (very overpriced!) to what they claim is nearby the "south pole", in case you were wondering, but this is not what Flat Earthers mean when we say explore Antarctica. We are also very dubious about the claim that it the destination is the "south pole", given there admitted to be a differentiation between the "customary" south-pole (advertised), and the actual south-pole (apparently nearby, but why won't the company take people to the actual south-pole if it really is close?). Also, Flat Earthers want the freedom to explore Antarctica on our own, not to travel along a route predetermined by the government as to what we should be able to see and offered by some corporation as an overpriced holiday.

Did I mention I had a dream about Antarctica once? I dreamed there were dinosaurs there - velociraptor kind of dinosaurs - the smart, evil kind - not too huge, but big enough to hurt one, and dangerously clever. I never did really understand what it meant, as I know that lizards and cold aren't supposed to go... I think that was before I became a Flat Earther, so long times ago.

I will have to watch the Tulsa King - it sounds like a series I would probably like. Comedy, action, gangsters. The only thing missing is probably Whangdoodles, but I understand why these might have been left out, given only an elite select few have the skills necessary to combat such evil! :) )
 

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ribs (You brought to mind that when I was 10/11 I also used a combination lock on my bicycle. I had forgotten that. The next time I tried a combination lock, I was in my late teens and I found them to be aggravating. I'm not sure whether I lost smarts in some areas over the years, or just patience :unsure:

I'm sorry your rebuttal got put into the electronic bin for recycling! I must admit, that while I still hold a different view, if it wasn't for you I would not have pondered the Flat Earth view. Your intellect has impressed me since I first came here. That alone softened my view and thus I want to try to at least get a broader scope of things. And after your description of the Antarctica from a Flat Earth view, I can't get that image out of my head. I dare say, you've altered the Earth in my mind and I'm not sure it'll ever be the same!

I'm sure you probably know that about 15ish years ago CMI sued Ken Ham allegedly due to "deceptive conduct in his dealings with the Australian organization." I'm not sure who to side with on that issue. Ken Ham is who I started listening to concerning creationism in my teen years and I still listen to him today. Meanwhile, I also listen to CMI and have visited their U.S. office. God bless the Australians, a big reason we have Biblical Creationism in the U.S. is due to them. We do have an outfit that began solely in the U.S., which is ICR in Dallas, which I keep saying I'll get around to visiting one of these days. I had the chance to visit The Ark in Kentucky a couple of years ago, but I turned down the opportunity. I would have had to have gone alone with a married man including being out of town overnight, and the Chieftess is above that sort of thing. Sometimes I think part of the reason I'm a recluse has more to do with me being oddly old fashioned for the society I live in whether than me actually being a recluse lol.

I agree concerning incredible findings in Antarctica. I am certain there is more than one incredible finding. There is a book I have that I've probably mentioned before. It's called Beyond Science Fiction by Jim Wilhelmsen. There's a lot of his ideals I don't agree with, but I don't cast his book aside totally (he isn't a Christians who pushes their ideals as hard truths). Anyway, he talks about Antarctica. Mind you, he's believes in a Hollow Earth. But, his ideals about Antarctica are interesting. I came away from the book pondering the scriptures in Jude 6 and 2 Peter 2:4 and thinking about the thick ice there and how that seemed like an interesting connection. I'm not saying I'm solid in that thinking. It's on a mental Post It note.

I like to think of my mind as a place of mental Post It notes. I have various things in my mind written on mental Post It notes stuck here and there. Ideas that I think could be a possibility and I want to study further, or ideas that are at least fascinating, but I'm not entirely solid about. If I use the word "belief", it means I'm solid about it and it's close to my heart. Stuff that is absolute rubbish gets tossed either into the mental rubbish bin or used later for humor.

No! I don't believe you've mentioned that dream. I think I would have remembered a dream like that! Just doing a quick search, I see articles on the topic of dinosaurs in the snow that I might have to read now.
Dinosaur fossils have been discovered in Antarctica, so I'm absolutely certain that there is much more there to be discovered. As long as we don't find ourselves up against both Whangdoodles and dangerously clever dinosaurs at the same time!)
 
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I haven't read too much into hollow Earth, but have been fascinated by some of the claims made, and wonder if there is truth to some. Moreso about underground realms than the actual shape of the Earth being hollow - because hollow is a difficult shape to imagine, anyway! :p I don't know if you ever heard of the fairy tale - the Pied Piper of Hamelin, where a pied piper (no, not your sort of pies! :p ) lures away the towns' children, it is believed into an underground prison or mountain, as vengeance for an unpaid rat-catching fee. The only thing is, there is/was a monument in that German town from the early 1600s "dedicated to the children", as if it was not a fairy tale afterall.

I like your description of your process of mental classification. I think my mind is too forgetful, so probably the Mental Post It notes would be spread everywhere and I wouldn't be able to find the one I needed when I needed it. So I prefer the physical type Post It notes, or writing things down somewhere - or in an electronic file. It's actually messier than Mental Post It notes, but the notes themselves are marginally easier to find. Such interesting topics are definitely good for humour, though! Fact or fiction, there is so much amusing stuff out there! :p )
 

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I follow him on social media. I recently ordered his wife's cookbook, because Ken is always talking about how superior Australian food is to ours lol.
I hope there isn't any current infiltration in the Creation Ministries. Biblical Creationism is so close to my heart and I feel strongly that it's very important in the world. Many people don't see that and don't agree with me, but how could it not be important to understand the amazing power of God? Well, understand in our limited fallen capabilities, that is. We need more Ken Ham's in the world!

I have heard of the Pied Piper of Hamlin, but admittedly it's been quite some time since I've heard the story. Mostly, whenever I hear/see Pied Piper mentioned I get that Crispian St. Peters' song The Pied Piper stuck in my head. I like that song! So, thank you Moses for unintentionally influencing the playlist in my brain lol.
Seriously speaking though, I think you make a good point. I think there are a lot of old stories that have been inspired by true accounts. I think this is the case going back through time and in all cultures. People tend to brush off a lot of things that might need a closer look.

Just because I keep mental Post It notes, doesn't mean I don't keep any physical notes. I don't use actual Post Its, but I do use notebooks. I have notebooks on either side of me as I type. I also type up an account of my day everyday. Besides that, I'm often taking notes. My life is made up of silliness, notes, and defenestrations!)
 
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I do like Creation Ministries and Answers (forgive me if I get them mixed up on occasion - they're on the same Post It note in my head, even though I know they are different - and probably some sort of enemies, right, after the thing with Ken Ham?) But it has annoyed me in the past a little when they're so focused on the Creation account, they deliberately won't take a biblical stance on other matters in scripture. I know the aim is to be united with regards to the Creation message, but perhaps I've grown and have been frustrated their horizons haven't expanded with me? In times past, I used to think the likes of Kent Hovind as something of a hack, and a detriment to the Creation truth, because he wasn't scared to give a Christian perspective on anything (and some of his perspectives I suspected then and know now are wrong) - and I supposed non-believers would use this as a means against us. However, I now respect Kent Hovind more for doing that, and there were plenty of things he said (which I wasn't aware of him saying at the time), that were way ahead of his time.

Since Kent, I've also liked Malcolm Bowden (I was a geocentrist before I became a Flat Earther - Geocentrism is much easier to demonstrate and believe) and then the occasional video from Rob Skiba before he died. I still wonder how he ended up in a hospital in the middle of a covid-scam, but probably he didn't subscribe to the crazier "conspiracy theorists" I do/did. David Icke (non-Christian and very new age) was also a guy I started listening to regularly soon after the pandemic started because I agreed with what he was saying, so if Rob was only using Christian sources, he might have been killed before he knew that even the hospitals were part of the plot...

Oh - infiltration - I'm sure there's a science, but I don't know exactly how it works. I think it's done with softy, wishy-washy Christian types first. Those who won't make a noise, and/or won't fight if something slightly incorrect is introduced, and who will brush off as conspiracy theories any claims of a more sophisticated plot or a more extensive, sinister agenda. Then when there's enough of these types, more evil, militant type people can be introduced - maybe Christians in name only, or maybe "good people" with "Christian values" who aren't Christians - or even people who are or who believe they are Christians, but put the commands of Christ second to their political leanings. I don't know if Creation Ministries or Answers or anything is infiltrated, but I'm sure most Christian institutions are to a degree. There's probably inadvertent infiltration (when the infiltrators don't even know they are infiltrators), and then advertent infiltration (when they do). But with the story about the witch/es - if true - pretty sure that would've been advertent infiltration. Back when I first heard it, I think I thought the guy making the claim was crazy. Knowing what I know now - I'd say he was probably telling the truth.

It's impressive that you take an account of your day everyday. While the Whangdoodles might steal your diary to read about the silliness and notes, I think keeping track of the defenestrations would have them slamming the diary shut and returning to your desk with trembling and in terror!!!:)

Hopefully they don't stumble across your defenestrating tools in their haste to return the diary, eh? :p )
 

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Btw, Ken Ham will occasionally fly to Australia and post pics of foods he's eating. He seems to still be quite partial to Australian food!

I probably also get the Biblical Creation organizations mixed up sometimes. I'm not sure if Ken Ham and CMI are enemies, but I read and watch both a lot and I don't hear them speak of collaborating. I'll sometimes hear CMI collaborating with ICR in Dallas or ICR will mention Answers in Genesis, but when it comes to AIG and CMI collaborating, I've yet to hear it happening. So, if they aren't enemies, maybe they just stay away from each other. Of course, I could have missed something! I subscribe to three Biblical Creationist magazines, and I also watch videos of all 3 often. So, I would think I would've heard something. Oh wait, I just recalled that Cal Smith, who I used to watch a good bit on CMI's Canadian show left CMI and now does Answers in Genesis-Canada. I still watch all his videos. I just thought maybe he got a better opportunity at AIG-Canada and that's why he left, but maybe he had other reasons.

I'm looking up Malcolm Bowden. I think I remember you showing me one of his videos sometime in the spring. I have his channel on yt pulled up. Is he also an author? On another tab I have open, I see a Malcolm Bowden as the author of books such as True Science Agrees with the Bible. That looks very appealing.

I used to watch Rob Skiba a lot. It's too bad he's gone. I liked his ideas on Nimrod. How he tied Nimrod and prophecy and non-Biblical historical figures together was like going an adventure without actually going on an adventure.

It seems that if someone is speaking wisdom, it's often the case that they are made to look crazy so that no one will listen to them. And once in a while they end up dead (like William Cooper, for example).

Your 4th paragraph is fire! Not just concerning Creation Ministries, but everything you typed is wisdom every church and Christian institution/organization/group should utilize. Of course, Satan desires to slyly maneuver into these spheres. I'm sure the more righteous the group, the more he salivates at the opportunity. We are told he is crafty, and warned that he seeks someone to devour. Thus we are warned to always be watchful. Speaking personally, I pray daily for guidance and wisdom. I fear if I don't do this, I will find myself on a path toward the wrong direction. Your words are incredibly wise and I wish more thought this way. You very often amaze me, Moses.

I've been keeping an account of my day everyday for years. I don't know why I have a strange need to keep an account of things. Sometimes it can be painful to record the more harsher days, but the motivation to keep a record burns within me and overrides even the most painful moments. Maybe we all have at least one thing we are driven to do. I guess mine is making an account of every day of my life lol.
There are also many good entries, for which I'm thankful. I have made entries concerning the Whangdoodles, but certainly not without entries of the wise and superior master who actually does strike fear into the Whangdoodles! The most impressive part of this year's daily accounts!
Any Whangdoodle that dares read the diary and sees the defenestrating tools practically disintegrates with fear!)