Word of knowledge or something else?

[Demi777]

I dont care when you were called and I could care less about your age. I know that the Spirit works through people your age, and that is not in dispute. I care about the sending into your call. Jesus was called before the foundation of the world and sent at 30. Joseph was called at 17 and sent into his call at 30. The disciples were called in year 1 and sent in year 3. God still has process to promotion and the chip on your shoulder about your age, your call and the reason why for your rapid call might work for the local pastor, but for some us it won't. Your rapid assumption that people automatically are rejecting your for your age is your weakness. If God did call and is preparing to send you into prophetic ministry, then stop defending your age, when you were called and why your involvement in the occult and abuse propelled you into your call and trust him to let others see him working in you the way you tell people.

I dont know you and you dont me. That said, I do not doubt anything about your call nor feel threatened about your age or the need to rebuke you for anything. I never said anything you do is not scriptural. You did.

I have seen a few young people with a serious call on their life, especially those coming out of the pagan and satanic occult world. Most drop the attitude you are carrying and will be to your detriment if you continue parading it around.

Defending yourself using scripture is silly and not spiritually mature every time someone challenges you. Challenges by people sent into ministry and that have paid the price should be met with joy and a desire to learn from them, not with a chip on your shoulder and wrapping yourself in scripture attempting to justify your call.

There is order and levels of authority in the occult world, and the kingdom is no different. I am not rebuking you or questioning the call. I am asking intentionally loaded questions that so far yielded that you have work to do in the Fruit of the Spirit as we all do.

Lower the defenses girl, some might be trying to help you that have been there done that and have walked in similar or identical gifting for years.

If I offended you I am sorry. I didnt assume that YOU specifically had a issue with my age. To use scriptures is a good thing, in the end thats what Jesus did as well. Ive seen some people rebuke me for my age. I was not parading but I guess you decided to take it that way. With that being said I wish you a blessed night

 

[BenFTW]

If I offended you I am sorry. I didnt assume that YOU specifically had a issue with my age. To use scriptures is a good thing, in the end thats what Jesus did as well. Ive seen some people rebuke me for my age. I was not parading but I guess you decided to take it that way. With that being said I wish you a blessed night

You beat me to it, no need to comment. lol I was going to say you were simply sharing on your experiences with your age and that you have scripture that comforts you and assures you in that respect.

 

[Demi777]

You beat me to it, no need to comment. lol I was going to say you were simply sharing on your experiences with your age and that you have scripture that comforts you and assures you in that respect.

Well sometimes sadly people accidently take something you say the wrong way. Happens so I shall just explain myself lol. I learned not to just always snap at everything and just let the peace of God take over. That way I can provide the best answers lol!

 

[eph610]

Demi,
All I am saying is this.....
Do not fall for the deception that there is not process to promotion into the send anymore because people seem to think the end is coming soon and God does not have time to promote people, so you are alone. If you came from the pagan or satanic occult world, you should know first hand that the enemy thrives on division and isolation. You should know this better than some of those old religious type busting on you for being used by the Spirit ;-)

Prophetic assignments can seem to be isolated, lonely ministries, but never , ever forget that God himself reminded Elijah he was not alone and the last man standing, there were 7,000 more.

The Lord may be bringing people into your life to help you with your send. I don't wish my vetting posts to upset you. Let God approve and validate you and find fellowship with those called as you are and older than you. While it might seem you are the only part of the body, you are not.

Blessings!

 

[BenFTW]

So is anyone else guilty of hearing how a fellow believer operates in certain gifts and you're standing there like, "I'm right here. Operate. I could use some encouragement, healing, or a word from the Lord." lol People tell me how the Lord used them this way and that way and I'm like, "Go on, be used. I'm right here." haha

Minister to me Demi!

Its always fun to be amongst fellow believers who are led of the Spirit and operate in the gifts the Lord has entrusted them.

 

[posthuman]

Solomon is not the teacher Besides, not even Solomon would say that the things of God are meaningless, would he? When he said all was vanity, was he not referring to worldly things aside from God? He who was made wise but turned away from the wisdom of God. No wonder all struck him as such

i love you Magenta

"Meaningless! Meaningless!" says the Teacher.
"Utterly meaningless! Everything is meaningless."
(Ecclesiastes 1:2)

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Ecclesiastes isn't about turning away from the wisdom of God; it is His wisdom. Everything in this world is meaningless: therefore fear God and serve Him; nothing else matters.
Can having all knowledge and all discernment save anyone's soul? No -- so it is meaningless too. The ignorant go to the same grave as the ones who know everything. Supernatural power is meaningless too, then, in the face of our eternal destiny and whether we have peace with God or not. Jesus said too, that people will come to Him boasting of the supernatural powerful things they did even in His name, but that He would send them away, saying He never knew them.

It's not that the things of God are 'without meaning' -- but that Christ is everything, and beside of peace with God, nothing lasts for more than a moment, and nothing can accomplish this peace but God's own mercy, shown to us through Jesus Christ.

So speaking in tongues? prophecy? words of knowledge? casting out demons? healing the sick? Next to having your sin taken away from you, none of this has any meaning at all
None of it grants eternal life. None of it accomplishes peace with God.

Make sense? i hope. . ?

It's easy to misread Ecclesiastes, i think. It's a book that needs perspective. Solomon was writing before the mystery of Christ was revealed, but even then he understood by God's wisdom that seeking His mercy, being at peace with Him, and finding rest for your soul is the only thing in all of our lives with 'real' value or meaning. Meaning, in the sense that he is looking at all this knowing that we all die, and looking for meaning that is eternal -- & being shown mercy by God is the only way to eternal life ((Jesus Christ -- the Living Embodiment of the Mercy of God!!))

So, if i speak with angels tongues, but do not have love . .
Because Christ gave us this one commandment: that we love one another, as He loved us. A "new commandment" He called it -- though it is in Leviticus, that we should love our neighbors. But was that love the love He showed us??

A new commandment: that we should love one another, as He has loved us
((Everything else is meaningless))

And back to the OP -- you spoke to that man, and spent time with him. That expresses love ♥
Time is a most precious thing to give! How can it be regained? ((!! ))

 

[Demi777]

Demi,
All I am saying is this.....
Do not fall for the deception that there is not process to promotion into the send anymore because people seem to think the end is coming soon and God does not have time to promote people, so you are alone. If you came from the pagan or satanic occult world, you should know first hand that the enemy thrives on division and isolation. You should know this better than some of those old religious type busting on you for being used by the Spirit ;-)

Prophetic assignments can seem to be isolated, lonely ministries, but never , ever forget that God himself reminded Elijah he was not alone and the last man standing, there were 7,000 more.

The Lord may be bringing people into your life to help you with your send. I don't wish my vetting posts to upset you. Let God approve and validate you and find fellowship with those called as you are and older than you. While it might seem you are the only part of the body, you are not.

Blessings!

Now that you say that I agree that the end is coming and the enemy is gaining some ground. there was quite a while where I thought I was alone in my walk but God ended up raising me up and showing me David and others.. How they doubted and he taught me that sometimes when we think we are the most alone we acturly have the most company! I can truly say that after understanding that I havent really fallen back into that lonelyness. Our God is the best and even when dark times come he always shines through. Lets rejoice in our Lords victory and power over all And always be sober and viligant
God bless!

 

[eph610]

If I offended you I am sorry. I didnt assume that YOU specifically had a issue with my age. To use scriptures is a good thing, in the end thats what Jesus did as well. Ive seen some people rebuke me for my age. I was not parading but I guess you decided to take it that way. With that being said I wish you a blessed night

I was not and I am not offended at all. I did not think you were parading, I think you may have serious call on your life and have been hurt by people rebuking your age.

Always remember, that operating in the gifts and specifically in the Prophetic is not a sign of spiritual or natural maturity. I have seen people saved and filled with the Holy Spirit for only 3 days operate in the gifts.

Character matters more than anything with God.

 

[eph610]

So is anyone else guilty of hearing how a fellow believer operates in certain gifts and you're standing there like, "I'm right here. Operate. I could use some encouragement, healing, or a word from the Lord." lol People tell me how the Lord used them this way and that way and I'm like, "Go on, be used. I'm right here." haha

Minister to me Demi!

Its always fun to be amongst fellow believers who are led of the Spirit and operate in the gifts the Lord has entrusted them.

I agree with you Ben and you know this, but we dont live by the gifts, we live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. We dont chase prophesy, we chase Jesus Christ.

 

[eph610]

Good night Demi!

The Lord bless you, and keep you; The Lord make His face shine on you,
And be gracious to you;


The Lord lift up His countenance on you,
And give you peace.’

 

[Demi777]

Good night Demi!

The Lord bless you, and keep you; The Lord make His face shine on you,
And be gracious to you;


The Lord lift up His countenance on you,
And give you peace.’

Amen God bless you and keep you brother. You have quite a gift there, keep it up!

 

[BenFTW]

I agree with you Ben and you know this, but we dont live by the gifts, we live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. We dont chase prophesy, we chase Jesus Christ.

Such things are simply a result of that intimacy. I once heard a fellow believer tell me the Lord was teaching them about the significance of the body of Christ being the Bride. Interestingly he said there are things you would only tell your wife and no others. It is the same with us and the Lord.

 

[Stephen63]

Hi,

This happend to me over 10 years ago and I still wonder what it was.

I was on a holiday in Africa and a out of the blue a african man came up to me and asked me if I knew his name. I did not know this man, but I heard the word "backery" in my mind. It was very clear voice and not my own thinking voice.

I told the man I did not know his name. (I did not know the man) He than said to me his name was "backery" The same name I heard in my mind!!!

Than we talked a little bit about my holiday in Africa (for me it was to be polite) and I went my way and he went his way.

Now more than 10 years have past and I still did not forget this. A friend of mine told me this is a word of knowledge, but I wonder If it was. Because what happened had no meaning at all. What do you think it was?
I never had something like this happened before

Not to judge you at all, but if this story is totally accurate, yes, it was a spirit, & no, not the Holy Spirit. The answer is in the story itself.

BLUE: Why did this man, a stranger, approach you, a stranger to him, & ask if you knew his name? If he had a spiritual need & believed you could help him, he should have asked for help, & not his name.

I believe this was real but not Holy Spirit led. It was a spiritual setup by Satan to get you involved in something evil. Be glad you didn't respond to him. If it's as you say a demon was speaking to you.

To prove this, it's quite simple. If the Holy Spirit was using you, He would have said waaay more than the man's name. You also would have been terribly convicted for not following His leading.

 

[Angelique]

Not to judge you at all, but if this story is totally accurate, yes, it was a spirit, & no, not the Holy Spirit. The answer is in the story itself.

BLUE: Why did this man, a stranger, approach you, a stranger to him, & ask if you knew his name? If he had a spiritual need & believed you could help him, he should have asked for help, & not his name.

I believe this was real but not Holy Spirit led. It was a spiritual setup by Satan to get you involved in something evil. Be glad you didn't respond to him. If it's as you say a demon was speaking to you.

To prove this, it's quite simple. If the Holy Spirit was using you, He would have said waaay more than the man's name. You also would have been terribly convicted for not following His leading.

You have a point. But I wonder if the Holy spirit said more I would act on it. Because I was much yougher then and did not know what exactly happened. I remember it scared me because you experience something that's out of the ordinary.

In that time I used to believe that ALL things that where out of the ordinary where not of God, because God did not preform these things in these days anymore. So I was not open to it. and it just happened. So if I would hear more than one word I would get even more scared.

I dont want to be open for these things because you have to test the spirits and I do have discerment but also fear about what if I am being deceived?

There have been certain times I 100% knew it was God. For example a few years ago I went to a very difficult period. I and people that know me say I always smile. But during that
I did not want to smile. I was so depressed.

And when I took the bus to work I felt a very strong urge to get my mp3 player out of my bag and put my headphone in. But I did not feel like doing it. But because I kept feeling the urge to do it I did it. I discovered something in by bag may have bummed it on and it was on a radio station instead on my own music. The first words I heard the Guy on the radio say when I put my headphone on was: "god put a smile on your face" Guess it was a name of a song. But I knew God was behind this. Telling me his. It brought comfort.

 

[LaurenTM]

Lauren I do value your input !! And thanks for taking the time to replay! And I agree totally about your point in discerment. When I pray I know its God. I get answers in my heart, and it is in line with the bible.

But I never experienced something like this before, this way. It just happend that's why I was wondering what it could be. Im not sure.

About my brother in law. I prayed about that too. I started the topic because I value the input of my Christian brothers and sisters. It was a confirmation.

that's sensible Angelique

since I have often had a 'word of knowledge', including future events that are 100% accurate, I have no problem with this gift or any others

I vehemently oppose all the fake nonsense out there and I will continue to do so

I stand by what I said

I believe what scripture teaches...God is the One who gives the gifts by His Spirit...but again, some people are more sensitive than others and Idk, but perhaps God uses those who are

I can't say more on that, but sometimes I think so

I totally agree regarding your brother

 

[LaurenTM]

The question i would be asking myself is

'why would a man who i have never even seen before in my entire life come up to me and ask me if i know his name?'
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You were on holiday, and you didn't share the gospel with him, and it doesn't sound like you two even mentioned God at all when you talked. So i don't know why you would think it might be a 'word of knowledge.'
The Spirit doesn't seem to me to have 'meaningless polite small talk with strangers' as part of His agenda.
The way you describe this it doesn't sound like you were in the spirit or being led by the Spirit at all, & i don't think that God just sort of spreads out meaningless supernatural power at random.

Do you believe in any form of telepathy?
In shamanism?
What if the man himself was projecting that name into your mind, and asking you to confirm if he really did have power over you or not?
What if he was a sorcerer & just kind of sized you up a bit?

Because i would start wondering if the power was a different spirit.
What was your spiritual life like at the time? Would you have even been able to answer that question 10 years ago, or even now?

if you read my posts, you will note that is basically where I am coming from..

far too many are quick to jump on the experiential wagon and call everything God

I will remain cautious, believing, but cautious

 

[LaurenTM]

HOw could she know if it was pointless or not, since she did not speak it out?

test the spirits...TEST the spirits

discernment

read my posts...I have had plenty of 'experiences' that I think were just 'natural' but I have received many words of knowledge, so I think I know the difference

is there something wrong with questioning? whatever happened to the Bereans? extinct?

the main reason there is so much false prophecy and nonsense going on today, is that folks are accepting anything and everything as being from God

it is error to just accept without making sure

 

[Billyd]

Demi,

I believe that you are being called by God into a ministry that he has not completely defined to you yet. I always encourage those being called the do two things. Spend hours each day in prayer and the scripture, and remember that if God is calling you into a specific area of ministry, God will ALWAYS provide you the resources to answer that call.

I love your comments and your enthusiasm for God. Please continue to comment on the BDF. You are always in our prayers.

 

[Magenta]

i love you Magenta

"Meaningless! Meaningless!" says the Teacher.
"Utterly meaningless! Everything is meaningless."
(Ecclesiastes 1:2)

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Ecclesiastes isn't about turning away from the wisdom of God; it is His wisdom. Everything in this world is meaningless: therefore fear God and serve Him; nothing else matters.
Can having all knowledge and all discernment save anyone's soul? No -- so it is meaningless too. The ignorant go to the same grave as the ones who know everything. Supernatural power is meaningless too, then, in the face of our eternal destiny and whether we have peace with God or not. Jesus said too, that people will come to Him boasting of the supernatural powerful things they did even in His name, but that He would send them away, saying He never knew them.

It's not that the things of God are 'without meaning' -- but that Christ is everything, and beside of peace with God, nothing lasts for more than a moment, and nothing can accomplish this peace but God's own mercy, shown to us through Jesus Christ.

So speaking in tongues? prophecy? words of knowledge? casting out demons? healing the sick? Next to having your sin taken away from you, none of this has any meaning at all
None of it grants eternal life. None of it accomplishes peace with God.

Make sense? i hope. . ?

It's easy to misread Ecclesiastes, i think. It's a book that needs perspective. Solomon was writing before the mystery of Christ was revealed, but even then he understood by God's wisdom that seeking His mercy, being at peace with Him, and finding rest for your soul is the only thing in all of our lives with 'real' value or meaning. Meaning, in the sense that he is looking at all this knowing that we all die, and looking for meaning that is eternal -- & being shown mercy by God is the only way to eternal life ((Jesus Christ -- the Living Embodiment of the Mercy of God!!))

So, if i speak with angels tongues, but do not have love . .
Because Christ gave us this one commandment: that we love one another, as He loved us. A "new commandment" He called it -- though it is in Leviticus, that we should love our neighbors. But was that love the love He showed us??

A new commandment: that we should love one another, as He has loved us
((Everything else is meaningless))

And back to the OP -- you spoke to that man, and spent time with him. That expresses love ♥
Time is a most precious thing to give! How can it be regained? ((!! ))

Dearest Posthuman, thank you as always for your very thoughtful post here... and that is exactly what I was saying: aside from God, all is vanity. I did not say that Ecc was about turning away from the wisdom of God I said that is what Solomon did. In so doing, he discovered that worldly pursuits are born of vanity, specifically because they exclude God. Love to you!

 

[Hawkins]

Hi,

This happend to me over 10 years ago and I still wonder what it was.

I was on a holiday in Africa and a out of the blue a african man came up to me and asked me if I knew his name. I did not know this man, but I heard the word "backery" in my mind. It was very clear voice and not my own thinking voice.

I told the man I did not know his name. (I did not know the man) He than said to me his name was "backery" The same name I heard in my mind!!!

Than we talked a little bit about my holiday in Africa (for me it was to be polite) and I went my way and he went his way.

Now more than 10 years have past and I still did not forget this. A friend of mine told me this is a word of knowledge, but I wonder If it was. Because what happened had no meaning at all. What do you think it was?
I never had something like this happened before

Not trying to be discouraging but from my knowledge that it is possible for some unclean spirits to actively establish a 'communication channel' to us. More commonly, they can cast images for us to reckon as ghosts. More often, one may have gone through a kind of 'ritual process' as an 'invitation' for an unclean spirit to come over. A typical example is the playing of demon board game and etc.

It looks suspicious that the location is Africa with a strange man and a strange question.

People 'see ghosts' also under the circumstance when they are not in good health, especially mentally speaking. It's like the unclean spirit may find a weak spot to break in. However this doesn't seem to be your case as you said that you are on a vacation.