Your opinions on mental/physical disabilities

[shittim]

interesting, I have heard it said the screen flashing so common now is hard on a young persons brain, and also the CDC has finally admitted the excess vaccinations with the Mercury compound has damaged many leading to our epidemic of autism.

 

[Bleed]

its been ten years now since I had to see a doctor, and not ever had to go into hospital.

you must have a strong spirit.
personally, i wouldn't even try going off my meds.

 

[SoulWeaver]

you must have a strong spirit.
personally, i wouldn't even try going off my meds.

I do applaud people who are strong and can handle their issues without meds, that is IF they do actually have a grip on it and are not deceiving themselves.

It's terrible when people won't take meds , and they should. Mental illness can make the person so absorbed with what's in their head that they think they are the only one that suffers, but it's not just them, it affects everyone around them too.

I have a bipolar family member who's constantly making bad, rash decisions, constantly negative, changing life plans every 5mins, and making life difficult for everyone dealing with their mood swings, getting angry for nothing and picking fights, every possible negative stereotype, you name it. They refuse to take medication even though they are on disability for bipolar (how does this even work?), and exercise zero self control and awareness, being the open gate swung by however they feel momentarily. But they believe they're handling things well and that they can do without medication...! It's a chronic stress upon the family.

Thank you for being a responsible person.

 

[SoulWeaver]

As someone who has mild Aspergers’s syndrome, I know disabilities can very much affect a person’s life. I think differently and sometimes act like a 5 year old, with being goofy or making loud noises on purpose. Also, I can get emotional easily.

I am of the mind set that any mental/physical disabilities cannot be cured and anyone who claims they can are a liar, doesn’t matter what background of religion they come from, this is stuff that cannot be cured and will be with a disabled person for the rest of their life. I know some disabilities are extreme and sometimes disabled people hate themselves because they are disabled, but that is why we must love them, for God loves everyone, and show them that God loves them, even if they are disabled.

If they believe in bad stuff, like supporting homosexuality, then we as Christians should hopefully guide them on the correct path, but if they refuse, don’t be surprised. A lot of disabled people don’t know how to think deeply, and can sometimes form their opinions based on how their parents raised them. I’m not saying everyone is like this, and I’m very grateful to God cause I could be in a much worse condition with my disability, but it is something to consider. I know this can also happen to people who don’t have a disability, but it just seems to happen more to disabled people, as far as I’m aware.

I used to ride the special needs bus to school and have been around special needs people, it really does give you a perspective and makes you wonder why: “Why did God create a person to be like this?”. The one disabled kid I’ll never forget was on my high school bus, all he could do was say his name over and over and make noises. He needed help to go anywhere, he could walk, but he needed to be guided along, I don’t know what he had, but I’m pretty sure it was mental retardation.

I know I used to doubt myself, thinking I’m different and I still struggle with this mindset, but even with differences, we can all come together as Christians to love and obey God, which just gives me hope, for God is in Control and is Good.

So post your opinions on disabilities and share what disabilities you have/any loved ones with disabilities. I think my cousin’s out of wedlock son has a disability, but they haven’t gotten him tested yet. When you’ve been around disabled people, you kind of pick up who has a disability and who doesn’t. I’m not trying to mean, I’m just aware of it, that’s all.

Sis, you started such a complex subject. It's somewhat hard to articulate on such a deep topic but some thoughts...

- We live in a fallen world so sometimes there will be suffering and the whole mankind shares in it. People get sick even if they didn't sin to bring upon ourselves (being born ill), and some illnesses are brought upon us by sin lifestyle; per example, some people damaged their physical or mental health through pursuing drug abuse;

- God finds ways to use anything for good, even illness, in some way. I derive this belief from the Scripture, And we know that ALL things work together for good to them that love God;

- Sometimes people do get healed through prayer and fasting, it's possible, but it doesn't happen always. I sometimes feel angry when other Christians are judgmental against the sick, and cast blame upon the sick person because they are not yet healed. The apostles didn't do this, not once have they blamed any sick person for being sick, they just healed and uplifted in faith everybody in their way;

- Not everything people call disability is a disability. Autism on its own is neurodiversity, and I say that as an Asperger myself. What is really a disability, are the comorbid conditions that often go alongside autism, that determine how "functioning" someone is - memory and attention issues, developmental/speech impairments, sensory sensitivities, etc. If you can be "high functioning", it's not a disability, you're just a little different.

- The greatest problem of all is society (especially social butterfly extroverts) making a huge deal out of autistic individuals not conforming to the same modus operandi as the majority. These are the loudmouth characters who determine what goes in every social group, and they similarly ostracize the shy and the introverts, berating them and applying to them negative moral characteristics.

- So what if I have intense interests for things and can talk about it all day? If it bothers someone, say so. So what if I don't do small talk? I deem you important by discussing important things with you. So what if I can't guess other people's thoughts and expectations very well? Why is this such a big deal? Only because people decided to make it into one. Everyone has a mouth. Use it! Even the social butterflies can't figure out everyone's wishes and expectations.

- I think the society needs "the emperor is naked!" kids that will drop the truth without filter, when everyone else shuts up and goes along with fake situations. There is a certain innocence in both autism and Down's, which guards things just by being itself. I hope this won't be mis-taken and that the essence will be understood in the light of what I said previously.

 

[SoulWeaver]

- Not everything people call disability is a disability. Autism on its own is neurodiversity, and I say that as an Asperger myself. What is really a disability, are the comorbid conditions that often go alongside autism, that determine how "functioning" someone is - memory and attention issues, developmental/speech impairments, sensory sensitivities, etc. If you can be "high functioning", it's not a disability, you're just a little different.

@SarahUmbreon
P.S. By this I didn't mean to dismiss that you or me or anyone else may have legit problems or disability (far from it); I'm just saying that the disability is coming from the comorbids like attention disorders or cognitive impairments, and not from your brain being wired a bit differently to focus on different things and a bit less on social interaction; that's only bad because people proclaimed it bad but nothing wrong with it in itself. I said it to encourage not to dismiss. Aspergers in itself doesn't have cognitive impairment; speech and intelligence is intact. That alone tells me that we're fine! But of course, people just can't handle when anyone is a little different, so they proclaim us "unfit" for society. Not being an expert for remembering faces or names is only a big deal because people made it into one; it's not to that point that we can't have a relatively normal daily life. All people are different, there are no sharp lines when it comes to anyone's brain, that's why it's called a spectrum. If we're bad at remembering one thing, there are other things we have great capacity for memorizing and remembering.

Maybe it's just my thing, but I don't like labels, and I don't like allowing labels to define me. They are just a necessary evil so we can communicate more efficiently and tell others what's going on.

 

[Blain]

As someone who has mild Aspergers’s syndrome, I know disabilities can very much affect a person’s life. I think differently and sometimes act like a 5 year old, with being goofy or making loud noises on purpose. Also, I can get emotional easily.

I am of the mind set that any mental/physical disabilities cannot be cured and anyone who claims they can are a liar, doesn’t matter what background of religion they come from, this is stuff that cannot be cured and will be with a disabled person for the rest of their life. I know some disabilities are extreme and sometimes disabled people hate themselves because they are disabled, but that is why we must love them, for God loves everyone, and show them that God loves them, even if they are disabled.

If they believe in bad stuff, like supporting homosexuality, then we as Christians should hopefully guide them on the correct path, but if they refuse, don’t be surprised. A lot of disabled people don’t know how to think deeply, and can sometimes form their opinions based on how their parents raised them. I’m not saying everyone is like this, and I’m very grateful to God cause I could be in a much worse condition with my disability, but it is something to consider. I know this can also happen to people who don’t have a disability, but it just seems to happen more to disabled people, as far as I’m aware.

I used to ride the special needs bus to school and have been around special needs people, it really does give you a perspective and makes you wonder why: “Why did God create a person to be like this?”. The one disabled kid I’ll never forget was on my high school bus, all he could do was say his name over and over and make noises. He needed help to go anywhere, he could walk, but he needed to be guided along, I don’t know what he had, but I’m pretty sure it was mental retardation.

I know I used to doubt myself, thinking I’m different and I still struggle with this mindset, but even with differences, we can all come together as Christians to love and obey God, which just gives me hope, for God is in Control and is Good.

So post your opinions on disabilities and share what disabilities you have/any loved ones with disabilities. I think my cousin’s out of wedlock son has a disability, but they haven’t gotten him tested yet. When you’ve been around disabled people, you kind of pick up who has a disability and who doesn’t. I’m not trying to mean, I’m just aware of it, that’s all.

It is interesting how you seem to be like a clone of me, I have brain damage from my past so like you I can sometimes act like a five year old and think differently the doctors described it as like wires in the human brain mine are just not connected correctly anymore so I think differently see and understand differently and trust me I am very much an emotional person, I also rode the short bus and was around such people.
And God loves to use such people, he uses those the world deems unfit lacking disabled and shows his love strength and wisdom through such people. I tend to see and think differently than normal people but the way I see it anyone who has ever done anything great in history wasn't normal and I have seen what normal thinking people have done and do in the world it isn't pretty just look at the news and see how the world is crumbling

The way I see it what the world needs isn't normal it is abnormal, the world needs a different perspective a different way of understanding what people may lack with their disabilities of any kind God will use to show his strength he will use the ones seen as fools to teach the wise he will use the ones the world sees as weak to humble the strong and he will use those that are seen as lacking to show the world how greatly it is lacking.

 

[Lighthearted]

I'm a firm believer that nothing is impossible for God to heal.
I also believe that He has purpose for each of us with both our strengths and weaknesses.
There is always the promise of finally being home where we are made perfect.

 

[Tararose]

If God has said His Grace is sufficient for you, then it is. If Paul thought Timothy was up to being in leadership - whilst knowing he had a stomach complaint and advising him to “take a little wine“ for it, we are fine to acknowledge our illnesses and take a prescription if required. If Paul - who had done mighty mirIckes - had to leave behind Trophimus because he was sick, and didn’t feel the need to accuse him of a lack of faith in the process, I think we can leave off our assumptions about anyone not experiencing healing.

Paul want Christ. Christ’s ministry was the confirmation of who He was, fulfilling the prophecy that He would heal them all. It was fulfilled. while He was alive He healed as many as came to Him. Though Healing was prevelant in the apostles ministry it certainly was not to the extent of Christ’s. As for the greater works ... when the Holy Spirit fell and the gospel was preached, thousands were saved in one day. This could not have been accomplished during Christ’s Earthly ministry. People followed Him for bread and fish and healing of the flesh. But on the day of penticost and ever since, souls have found a greater healing, an eternal healing, eveasting life. Nothing of the old covenant compares to this new work of God through the ministry of believers sharing the good news of Christ today.

 

[Tararose]

I meant to type Paul Wasn’t Christ

i pressed post without finishing and then couldn’t edit in time to answer the initial posters questions.

My brother had learning and coordination difficulties that made his struggle at school and be bullied. It was a worry for my parents. He managed ok but it was never easy.

i have a friend in her 50s who has a son at home who hardly leaves his bedroom. he has aspergers and needs prompting and supervising To do basic tasks even though he is in his 30s. His mum cannot work or leave him overnight. It has been an exhausting challange for her as he doesn’t respond to others well So it is mostly on her shoulders. He seems content enough but lives in a world Of his own mostly. It is a lonely life For his mum.

Another friend has a younger autistic son, he is in schools still, but he is very vunerable and needs a lot of attention. His mum had to homeschool him for
a while because the local schools couldnt offer the proper help he needed and the poor handling of his case resulted in him having a breakdown. It has taken years for him to recover and finally get some assistance. his parents are themselves still suffering from the years of stress and worry and so on.

I know how hard it can be to not fit in and to be misunderstood, and have respect for the unseen battles people with Mental disabilities have to face daily. Some physical disabilities are much more accepted by society, whilst despite education on the topic, many are still prejudice and ignorant of other peoples (often unseen or misunderstood) struggles.

We all have trials and battles and I can only pray that the Lord continues to help us to be sensitive of the needs and struggles of others, regardless of if we can relate or not.

 

[Lanolin]

I do applaud people who are strong and can handle their issues without meds, that is IF they do actually have a grip on it and are not deceiving themselves.

It's terrible when people won't take meds , and they should. Mental illness can make the person so absorbed with what's in their head that they think they are the only one that suffers, but it's not just them, it affects everyone around them too.

I have a bipolar family member who's constantly making bad, rash decisions, constantly negative, changing life plans every 5mins, and making life difficult for everyone dealing with their mood swings, getting angry for nothing and picking fights, every possible negative stereotype, you name it. They refuse to take medication even though they are on disability for bipolar (how does this even work?), and exercise zero self control and awareness, being the open gate swung by however they feel momentarily. But they believe they're handling things well and that they can do without medication...! It's a chronic stress upon the family.

Thank you for being a responsible person.

nope I dont have a strong spirit I was healed.
so I actually dont have the affliction anymore. Its not something I take credit for. God healed me.

 

[Lanolin]

bipolar disorder isnt actually an 'issue'. its nothting to do with any kind if personality trait or who you are. Its an affliction that affects people, thats why its called bipolar AFFECTIVE disorder. its not something you are.

 

[Lanolin]

autism is a sensory processing impairment. Interventions can cure it, but thy need to be consistent and done at the right time.

I think it must be overwhelming to have autism, to just be overloaded all the time that your body kinds of shuts down. Lets have some compassion and try to understand how it feels for someone whos afflicted.

when afflicted with bipolar its very tough to cope with spells of highs and lows that come out of the blue. To have so much energy and feel like you can do everything, to then have so little that you cant even make it out of bed. and this cycle can go on for months with only little periods of normality in between. its like an emotional rollercoaster. But its actually not fun after the first couple of times its like 'here we go again, brace yourself' nobody wants to live with someone whos moods are all over the place!

But the good news is that God can handle this, He can anchor you and settle you. I would say to those who are suffering, that dont despair. God does want to heal you. You just need to keep reaching for Him and letting Him take control. Hes bigger than us. He can handle it.

 

[mustaphadrink]

I am a very high-functioning Autistic person and did not find this out until about 10 years ago. As a result, I was not aware of my abilities and how to use them.

I do not see myself as having a disability as there are several facets of my condition that I see as a blessing. One is my incredible ability to seek out the truth. I will leave no stone unturned until I have unearthed anything there is to know about a subject. Once I have done the hard yards, I have no fear of speaking what I know even if it questions orthodoxy.

I am thinking about writing a book with a title something like this, "You wanna know the truth? Then forget what you have been told?" The book will show how denominational dictates have superseded what the scripture teaches.

Guess what my favorite pastime is? Reading books.

Another ability I prize is to sort out truth from lies. I won't just accept any old story if it doesn't sound right.

All this is I guess a reason why a spirit of discernment has been a gift I have used many times. I may not have the ability in some areas but God replaces it with ability in other areas. Whatever situation we find ourselves in, God can use it for his glory.

One problem I do have is that I speak as I find. Not as a criticism but as a fact. As in if I see someone that is fat I might say "That person is fat" not as a criticism but as a statement of fact. No criticism or condemnation is meant.

With all disabilities, we have to see beyond them to see the positives and what they can offer to us and society. I used to know a down syndrome girl who was amazing. She lit up a room she was such a happy little person.

From my perspective is a disability from God? My answer is no, it was the product of the curse. But having said that God can make all things work together for good with those that love God.

 

[mustaphadrink]

I am a very high-functioning Autistic person and did not find this out until about 10 years ago. As a result, I was not aware of my abilities and how to use them.

I do not see myself as having a disability as there are several facets of my condition that I see as a blessing. One is my incredible ability to seek out the truth. I will leave no stone unturned until I have unearthed anything there is to know about a subject. Once I have done the hard yards, I have no fear of speaking what I know even if it questions orthodoxy.

I am thinking about writing a book with a title something like this, "You wanna know the truth? Then forget what you have been told?" The book will show how denominational dictates have superseded what the scripture teaches.

Guess what my favorite pastime is? Reading books.

Another ability is I enjoy finding out the truth behind the truth. In other words the big picture, not just a few facets of it.

All this is I guess a reason why a spirit of discernment has been a gift I have used many times. I may not have the ability in some areas but God replaces it with ability in other areas. Whatever situation we find ourselves in, God can use it for his glory.

One problem I do have is that I speak as I find. Not as a criticism but as a fact. As in if I see someone that is fat I might say "That person is fat" not as a criticism but as a statement of fact. No criticism or condemnation is meant.

With all disabilities, we have to see beyond them to see the positives and what they can offer to us and society. I used to know a down syndrome girl who was amazing. She lit up a room she was such a happy little person.

Autistic people do have a hard time in the church because the consensus amongst those who work with them is that they cannot change. The church has to change but as we know, for too many churches, change is a swear word.

From my perspective is a disability from God? My answer is no, it was the product of the curse. But having said that God can make all things work together for good with those that love God.

Sorry for the repeat but we are only given five minutes to change anything.