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Guess you have nothing to say apart from baseless accusations? You have no idea what I do and there is no way for you to know.
Now are you are hearer of the word or a doer of the word? Obviously you must hear before you can do but for him to know right and not to do it to him it is sin.
Not one part of the body is above another. All the parts work together. Who are you to condescend and endeavor to make others feel inferior?
Time we get back to our first love.
Re 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Now are you are hearer of the word or a doer of the word? Obviously you must hear before you can do but for him to know right and not to do it to him it is sin.
Not one part of the body is above another. All the parts work together. Who are you to condescend and endeavor to make others feel inferior?
Time we get back to our first love.
Re 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Still waiting for one of you Sages of Scripture to get Jesus told right!
Come on now......put on them big boy pants and set Him straight!
Imagine Him saying we have to do something to get into Heaven........
One of you clue Him in on if we have to do something, it ain't free!
That Jesus, He is such a troublemaker. Goodness.
Come on now............how about you Roger? You are a great Theologian........get Him told!
Matthew 7:21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Come on Roger, tell Him how it ain't free iffin you gotta do something, tell Him how you have entered into His rest and all the work is done..........tell Him how it's HIM that has to do the work from within you. Come on Roger.
And, shoot, don't bother going to work anymore! If the Boss calls, just tell him that Jesus is there doing it! Now, if he tells you he will give your paycheck to Jesus, you MIGHT have second thoughts huh?
Come on Roger............GET THEM BIG BOY PANTS ON!
Come on now......put on them big boy pants and set Him straight!
Imagine Him saying we have to do something to get into Heaven........
One of you clue Him in on if we have to do something, it ain't free!
That Jesus, He is such a troublemaker. Goodness.
Come on now............how about you Roger? You are a great Theologian........get Him told!
Matthew 7:21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Come on Roger, tell Him how it ain't free iffin you gotta do something, tell Him how you have entered into His rest and all the work is done..........tell Him how it's HIM that has to do the work from within you. Come on Roger.
And, shoot, don't bother going to work anymore! If the Boss calls, just tell him that Jesus is there doing it! Now, if he tells you he will give your paycheck to Jesus, you MIGHT have second thoughts huh?
Come on Roger............GET THEM BIG BOY PANTS ON!
Come on Roger......here, tell Him this
Ephesians 2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.
(but, you might wanna leave out this other part)
10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Come on Roger, set His straight!
Ephesians 2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.
(but, you might wanna leave out this other part)
10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Come on Roger, set His straight!
You would have a lot less problems if you just learned the scripture in context and not keep pulling out verses to proof text a pet doctrine.
Mat 7:21 is about false professors not obedience to maintain salvation.
Mat 7:15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Mat 7:21 is about false professors not obedience to maintain salvation.
Mat 7:15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
What is your problem? Never have I ever said we should not yield ourselves to the service of our Lord and Savior. What I have objected to is this foolishness that one can become lost if they do not measure up to some unknowable standard that is applied in a completely arbitrary fashion.
An old evangelist once told me that if you chuck a stone into a pack of hounds the one that yelps is the one that got hit.
I think you have a burr under your saddle because it's your short comings that you are impressing on others.
Those who are serving the Lord are not so quick to judge others on their service. Let Jesus minister to each believer in His time and fashion because He is infinitely better equipped to do it than you or I.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
An old evangelist once told me that if you chuck a stone into a pack of hounds the one that yelps is the one that got hit.
I think you have a burr under your saddle because it's your short comings that you are impressing on others.
Those who are serving the Lord are not so quick to judge others on their service. Let Jesus minister to each believer in His time and fashion because He is infinitely better equipped to do it than you or I.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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you have a point. I've seen it.
when they come swarming out of their 3000 page document, run for cover LOL!
it will almost always come as a personal attack, or a twist on what was really said
pretty sure we will have to answer for that one day if we persist in it
I do believe Jesus is serious in what He says
as serious as hell fire...but of course now we have universal salvation and Jesus did it all so we don't have to do anything but think about what color to paint our mansion
there is no confusing works and obedience yet it is done
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I know what you mean. I see the dust is settling, and that's a good thing I suppose. I do not want my friends to get dragged into this. They are good, God fearing, tender hearted believers, and I don't want them to have to put up with this stuff from these guys. It ain't nothing but a thang to me........God bless
However, be assured: I stand firmly behind what I stated. What I stated is Biblical Truth, and what I stated is what Jesus Himself stated, and i will always stand behind Him.
However, be assured: I stand firmly behind what I stated. What I stated is Biblical Truth, and what I stated is what Jesus Himself stated, and i will always stand behind Him.
E
lol. your the same old person. You can not stand it when someone stand up to you. Thats why we have never got along. I have called you out on what your teaching, and as you have proven, You do not like it.
Notice how you did not even respond to my post. I am sure when I get to it, Your goin gto do what you always do. and go back to say the same thing. which I already refuted.
You can chose to respond or not. But I do not call what you just did responding, see it you bveing on the defensive, When you respond to people. You point out where they got it wrong, You say, Ok I see what your saying here, But what you said there, I do not agree, and this is why.
Again, thats why we but heads, Your no better then Peter Jens or any of the other people who can not stand it when people call them out.
Jesus put my righteousness on, I can not live on my righteousness, I know thats hard for you to understand. But hey, What do you expect.
see what I mean people? this man did not even read what I said, I have twice now (in fact before it got heated because he can not stand me, ) said those who have faith WILL DO GODS WILL.
in fact here you go.
now here he is a second calling me out saying I do not believe it. can anyone read the above and say I do not believe a child of God walks in obedience?
Nah, I believe what he said, and have proved it a few times, so instead what I am gonna do, is I am gonna call you out for again being a LIAR.
I no more expect you to say your sorry than any of the other people pushing works do. But I guess I could pray, some here have repented. can you find humility in your heart?
E
I never gave you a demand, I gave you an option. I asked you if you could answer or not. Your refusal to answer an easy question is on you.
well I guess I should have known better than to expect you to be honest.
1. I do not have to prove ANYONE IN THIS THREAD said we must obey the law to be saved. So since I never said they did, thus your resistance just because I will not show who did is non sense. and a non issue.
2. The op says we must obey the law of Jesus, and by doing this, we assure salvation.
I asked what is the difference between those who demand law must be followed (you know who they are, they are all over this chatroom, even if they have not pocked their faces in this thread yet.) and what elephant here is saying (demand the law of Christ must be followed)
Can you answer or not?
I did not say you were wrong when you said no one here was saying the law was required. You took me wrong (as you usually do)
can you answer or not? Is there a difference?