Do We Have To Keep The Law?

[LPT]

Yes, this was said while Jesus was on earth and BEFORE His resurrection. But after His resurrection He told us that all power in Heaven and on earth had bee given to Him. Which would imply that He also had full knowledge of His return when He ascended up to Heaven. We need to (a) keep Scripture in context and (b) apply all Bible truth to our beliefs. We are told that now "In Him [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily". Then how would He not know NOW as to when He will return?

Sure it was, now show me proof by scripture Jesus knows now when he will return? sure the only ones that don't know in heaven are the Angels. Yea ok. there's a reason why God is the only one that knows and it's for a reason period.

 

[Ralph-]

show where i said we can sin all we want, murder anyone we want, commt sexual sin all we want, and lie all we want.

EG is slimy as wet jello and will desperately wiggle out of any corner that you put him in with plain scripture but it is true that he does not say grace is a license to sin. That would be budman.

 

[Ralph-]

I think by the way he responded to you, he has proven himself only here to cause division and fight.

The truth of plain scripture always causes division and fighting.

The key is to not be on the wrong side of the division, and not be the one doing the fighting.

I think it is about time ralph went back on block.

Yes, that would be a good idea.

I do prefer responding to your posts without your interference.

 

[LPT]

EG is slimy as wet jello and will desperately wiggle out of any corner that you put him in with plain scripture but it is true that he does not say grace is a license to sin. That would be budman.

Seems it's a trend around here from multible posters, hehe...

 

[Ralph-]

You condemn yourself by trying to work to keep a free gift.

Oh, by the way...

It's believing in order to keep the free gift of salvation, not working to keep the free gift.

 

[mailmandan]

Your the one who posted a site that injects its own personal opinion about Jesus giving up his rights and he does know now, my angle is if your going to do a quick search do it with place that doesn't inject its own views, their opnion is no better than mine because it's not written like that, even the Angels Don't know, are you going to tell me God is saying to Jesus now don't tell the Angels.

In Hebrews 2:9, we read that for a little while, Jesus was made lower than the angels and in Philippians 2:7, we read that Jesus emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. This is scripture and was quoted in the article and is not merely someone else’s opinion. The angels are not God and remain the same, but Jesus is God. After the resurrection, it was said that Jesus knows all things (John 21:17). Not sure what your angle would be to believe otherwise, unless you don’t believe that Jesus is God or are just plain confused.

 

[LPT]

In Hebrews 2:9, we read that for a little while, Jesus was made lower than the angels and in Philippians 2:7, we read that Jesus emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. This is scripture and was quoted in the article and is not merely someone else’s opinion. The angels are not God and remain the same, but Jesus is God. After the resurrection, it was said that Jesus knows all things (John 21:17). Not sure what your angle would be to believe otherwise, unless you don’t believe that Jesus is God or are just plain confused.

Instead of just quoting the verses post the verses so I can read them as well, sure I can look them up But I want you to do it because I'm not going to do it you should have given them to me along with your view, you inject your opnion on your interpretation now show me the verses also, I am capable of making my own determination of the interpretation.

 

[LPT]

That's the problem with a lot of those articles I've seen a many were people love to quote verses though fail to actually post them and give long speeches about what it means.

 

[mailmandan]

That's the problem with a lot of those articles I've seen a many were people love to quote verses though fail to actually post them and give long speeches about what it means.

Stupid articles? Great attitude. Those articles, along with what I shared with you in post #386 sum it right up. It’s really not difficult to understand, but it sounds like you have an agenda.

 

[LPT]

Stupid articles? Great attitude. Those articles, along with what I shared with you in post #386 sum it right up. It’s really not difficult to understand, but it sounds like you have an agenda.

I see your a trickster as well, you don't see it in my post do you? I corrected my error O but No that is not good enough for you postman is it. deep down you find pleasure in stuff like that.

as I thought you wouldn't post the whole verses, never mind I am nott even going to intertain this conversation any farther.

 

[mailmandan]

I see your a trickster as well, you don't see it in my post do you? I corrected my error O but No that is not good enough for you postman is it. deep down you find pleasure in stuff like that.

as I thought you wouldn't post the whole verses, never mind I am nott even going to intertain this conversation any farther.

I’m way ahead of you. Goodbye...

 

[LPT]

I’m way ahead of you. Goodbye...

Alreadt know that, but i will tell this, if it was me who did what you did to me by saying something that you have already corrected. I wouldn't have beaten you over the head for it because you caught your mistake.

If I did do it, I would have been completely humble and say yea I shouldn't of not done that, but it seems to me that is not how you think at all.

 

[Budman]

You're not strong enough to let it go. Insults and attacks will follow. You're still worldly. You do not live by the Spirit. You show that in your posts.

Yeah....says the guy who just called EG "slimy".

You're a hypocrite of the lowest order, Ralph.

but it is true that he does not say grace is a license to sin. That would be budman.

And you continue to lie. I have never once said that. I have always said grace is not a licensing to sin. But I'm not surprised at all that you continue to say this. You and truth don't know each other at all.

It's believing in order to keep the free gift of salvation, not working to keep the free gift.

Says the man who keeps saying works are required.

 

[Nehemiah6]

More sniping.

 

[Budman]

More sniping.

Merely answering the accusations.

 

[BenFTW]

Merely answering the accusations.

You're a good shot though! *BOOM* HEADSHOT! lol

 

[beta]

The law of moses, the whole law was given by God. Moses did not make the law up. This excuse the law was given by moses is not true.

why do you keep ignoring pauls words I post. Paul quoted moses, if you go back and read the law Moses spoek of you will see all ten commands were included, as well as other
commands. The ten were not seperated.

Please READ ALL my words I never once said the law was given BY Moses....YOU say that then make out I said it....what a twist and lie placed on me ! I will stop talking to you if you persist .
The 10 are not separated for you because you don't hear GOD, you only want to hear Paul and Moses....just like people did then. I gave you scriptures you can't seem to read ...you give me none for what you believe...let us see scriptures !!!

 

[beta]

Correct, there are 613 Commandments.
Which include laws of cleanliness, holiness, sacrifice, paternity, marriage, divorce, etc.

Here is the thing no one person can keep all 613, not even the Messiah. Now, does that make the Messiah a sinner, HEAVENS NO! Among the 613 Commandments there are specifications as to which laws apply to which individuals.

For instance there are commandments that only apply to men, some only to women.
There are laws strictly for children, sons, and daughters.
There are laws for Fathers, and laws for mothers.
There are laws strictly for Priests, Kings, Judges, and Elders.
There are Commandments strictly for Farmers.

See, no ONE person can fit into ALL of there categories. So, a King is not breaking the Law(sinning) if he does not keep the commandment given to a Priest. Neither a Father who does not keep a commandment given only given to women. When you really look at the Commandments of G-D and you examine where you fall you see which commandments you are supposed to keep as servant of the Messiah, in Covenant with G-D the Father, an adopted child of G-D, and a wild Olive Branch grafted into the Cultivated Olive Tree of Israel to whom the New Covenant is given.

More or less, on average, each believer is responsible for keeping about 200 Commandments of the 613.
Think that's a lot? There are more traffic laws on the books, alone, in the United States than there are commandments of G-D given to all Covenant believers.




Commandments are not salvational. The Law can not and could never bring salvation. To say the commandments grant salvation is to make salvation based on works, which is obviously unattainable just as scripture bears witness. The Law is never meant to be kept FOR salvation, it is kept BECAUSE of Salvation. The Law is not for Salvation. The Law is for Sanctification, being set apart, made holy, and for training in Righteousness.

This is the same redundant accusation that is made to "Law-keepers" that we are somehow trying to "earn" our Salvation. Such is absurd! A total lie! A fabrication forged from the hearts who have misunderstood the writings of Paul, the Message of Scripture, the Power of The Gospel, and the center of the Covenant made with G-D and HIS people.

I think at your tender age you have a better understanding of law than some of your older Brothers who pretend to know it all. God bless you !!!

 

[JaumeJ]

Hear the Good Shepherd's voice on all matters and you cannot go wrong.

 

[Nehemiah6]

have y'all ever read the commandments, and considered them as promises?

you shall not covet​

hasn't He promised, and isn't He faithful, to complete the work He began?

Not sure exactly what you are trying to convey? How did you conclude that the commandments were promises?