ALL CHRISTIANS ANSWER PLEASE!! CONFUSED CHRISTIAN!!

[Hoffco]

This is a real good thread to get to the bottom of the great apostacy in the christian churches of today. Layre333 is right on in his condemnation of today's churches. The apostasy has spread to the Fundamental church also; this is evident by eteral-grateful's posts "faith only". Most all of christianity has gone bad in this world, 90% or more is bad. YES, America and the world has rejected The Christ and/or the Bible. Some of you, like dcontroversal have good posts, keep up the good work. christianity with out the moral law is LOST. Love to all, Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

To Layre333, I must say ,in all honesty, you have a perverted idea of Christ and true Christianity. You need to look at the Bible more carefully. You either don't know english well enough to converse in Eng. well; or you, are sincerely confused, being so new into the Bible. You need a few more yrs of studying the Bible. You are not in the "Faith " yet. Sorry , this is my take on your personal condition and positions you hold. Love to all, Hoffco

 

[Layre333]

For what reason? You are asking me questions out of aggression. You've come on here to try and upset people with twisted logic and are making wild accusations against the legitimacy of the resurrection. You are attacking with false doctrines. I don't dance with that.

Thats how I came off on here? I came her a curious, I asked questions and people never answered with source they only answered with opinions which brought no good. I'm not trying to upset anyone I haven't once said something that should upset anyone. Why on gods earth would you be upset with me, is this not my thread? Did I not ask questions? Am I not curious?

Dont dance with me, because a dance with the devil might just last forever. And I don't need your energy around here.

People ask me questions I answer, I ask they answer. It's the point of a forum. No need to take it to heart. You have to understand how the human minds think, everyone thinks different.

A point of a forum is to make on understand

 

[Layre333]

To Layre333, I must say ,in all honesty, you have a perverted idea of Christ and true Christianity. You need to look at the Bible more carefully. You either don't know english well enough to converse in Eng. well; or you, are sincerely confused, being so new into the Bible. You need a few more yrs of studying the Bible. You are not in the "Faith " yet. Sorry , this is my take on your personal condition and positions you hold. Love to all, Hoffco

Idk why you people keep telling me that when that was the question I ASKED in the first post.

Obviously i I don't understand the bible, that was the whole POSTTTT!!!!!!!!

answer the verses I mentioned. Those are the most verses that confused me
god help us all man

 

[dcontroversal]

When will anyone do me the honor and answer my original post?

Pretty sure that numerous people have answered..

Re: ALL CHRISTIANS ANSWER PLEASE!! CONFUSED CHRISTIAN!!

You have to ask?.....

Sexual immorality and the embracement of homosexuality, beastiality etc. is the (straw) that breaks the camel's back and is a sure sign of the impending judgment of God that will be poured out upon America.....and it is coming soon!​

 

[Layre333]

This is a real good thread to get to the bottom of the great apostacy in the christian churches of today. Layre333 is right on in his condemnation of today's churches. The apostasy has spread to the Fundamental church also; this is evident by eteral-grateful's posts "faith only". Most all of christianity has gone bad in this world, 90% or more is bad. YES, America and the world has rejected The Christ and/or the Bible. Some of you, like dcontroversal have good posts, keep up the good work. christianity with out the moral law is LOST. Love to all, Hoffco

I agree with this post but not your other. Anything I mentioned about jesus ARENT MY OPINIONS. Anything YOU all posted about jesus were opinions. PROVE TO ME HE IS GOD. WHEN he CLEARLY SAYS I am not god. HOW is one suppose to think????????????????????

 

[Layre333]

Pretty sure that numerous people have answered..

Re: ALL CHRISTIANS ANSWER PLEASE!! CONFUSED CHRISTIAN!!

You have to ask?.....

Sexual immorality and the embracement of homosexuality, beastiality etc. is the (straw) that breaks the camel's back and is a sure sign of the impending judgment of God that will be poured out upon America.....and it is coming soon!​

nope. No one answered. I asked people to explain the verses in the first post and tell me why we don't follow those verses. All just give me opinions not facts from the word of god.

 

[Layre333]

For what reason? You are asking me questions out of aggression. You've come on here to try and upset people with twisted logic and are making wild accusations against the legitimacy of the resurrection. You are attacking with false doctrines. I don't dance with that.

and no I never asked out of aggression, I just begged for someone to answer the verses because no one answered me

 

[Spokenpassage]

Sir, the one who started this thread. You seemed to be very confused with a lot of what the bible says. Also I am confused at what you are trying to ask or present here. Can you break it down right now in each post so that we can discuss it...

 

[danalee]

and no I never asked out of aggression, I just begged for someone to answer the verses because no one answered me

I guess my clinical work in psychiatric nursing is altering my perception of what I think is up with you. You are playing games. You ask questions, then you are answered and then you say tomorrow you are going to be a Muslim. Fine. Then you switch accounts and start posting under another name, but it is clear you are the same person. You also seem to be very young - so I'm a assuming you're a young Muslim who has found a Christian Chat board to challenge....and that is exactly how I view Islamists. False witnesses. Aggressive. Challenging. And wanting to fight.

 

[Elin]

i feel like none of you have answered any of the verses in the bible that I have given all you. You all are part of the 80% who haven't realized what you need to do to be a good christian. You don't want to give someone else the satisfaction of being right. You just want to continue believing all that you were taught and don't want to learn anymore.

Back to to the point, the reason why I mentioned islam is because god told us many times not to hate they enemies. And of 1 billion Muslims, if 1 million are bad that is fine. Because of 2 billion Christians there are more than 3 million bad. we hate them because of what we hear (NOT of what we choose to learn as I prove my case above^^ ) no one wants to do the research (either follow the bible and learn more about Christianity.) or ( realize that Muslims aren't that bad )

im sick of the media trying to destroy all Muslims, when my brother who is in fact muslim PROVES to me that not all Muslims are bad. They are one of the most peaceful people.

Most of us hate them due to the fact that they preach jihad.... "Muhammad said, find ALL the non believers and kill them" ..
is it ironic how Jesus himself said the same thing?

we hate them because they don't eat pork?
Jesus told us not to

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And I have read there bible and the torahs. EVERYONE has mistaken the truth to what they have heard.

they believe jesus was a messenger and prophet, I could swear jesus mentioned he was a messenger. and when I mentioned verses that claim jesus is not god, all some people did was find verses that claim he was?!?

Could it it be that someone REWROTE the bible and confused us all?? Why are there verses that say on thing than verses that say the other

THIS IS THE QUESTION I AM ASKING^^^
any where I put a question mark is the question I'm asking.

ExplainALL the verses I wrote in the first post!!

PLEASE If You are a true christian and want me to go the right Path make me understand,,, I am lost and confuseddd

You are nothing but a deceiving troll.

Trolls are not welcome here.

 

[Layre333]

I guess my clinical work in psychiatric nursing is altering my perception of what I think is up with you. You are playing games. You ask questions, then you are answered and then you say tomorrow you are going to be a Muslim. Fine. Then you switch accounts and start posting under another name, but it is clear you are the same person. You also seem to be very young - so I'm a assuming you're a young Muslim who has found a Christian Chat board to challenge....and that is exactly how I view Islamists. False witnesses. Aggressive. Challenging. And wanting to fight.

Ok. God will punish you for making others believe that lie, at first I'm trying to understand who's account you would think I'm using. Then it made sense when I remembered the Muslims post.
I swear on anyone's life I love that this is the only account I am using.
Your sick

 

[Elin]

lol. He does not know his quaran then. And he is not a devout muslim.

The quaran says all unbelievers should be killed if they do not repent. And allah is behind it.

Does jesus not say to kill all the unbelievers as well?
Matt. 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth, but a sword."
Luke 19:27 "But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”


even if it says that. Not all Muslims do it. Idk what you have against them.

What at about the Christians that shoot up schools, rape, kill, EVERYSINGLE DAMN day here in the states.

Why hey don't we say they are not Christians.

The quran ran also mentions if you take one innocent soul it's as you killed everyone in the world. If you save one soul it's as you've saved everyone.

You do not follow jesus because you don't follow his teachings.
You follow what you are told because your an idiot that is selfish.
God doesn't like people like you

You are a troll.

Trolls are not welcome here.

 

[Elin]

Jesus says not to eat pork. Yet Christians go against it

how could you not say, Muslims probably go against many verses in the Quran as we do

i believe too many Christians. Muslims. And other people in this world are hypocritical liars
they are to dumb to acknowledge other people. Therefore there is so much violence in this world, but this is something that will never change. So it's up to EVERYSINGLE individual to know the truth For themselves. Do hate Muslims because your neighbors do. Don't hate christians because your neighbors do.

If only people understand my point of view of what I am trying to say ://

do you want hitler representing Christianity. Or the highway killer of 1980 who rapes and killed children... Or many of the thousands of murderers here in the states today and across the world who are Christians. Of course not.
we just are to dull to see that even us are not perfect

god mentions if you believe in Abraham as one of the forefathers than you believe in me.

Muslims pray for abraham in every prayer.

They are our brothers. Just because they speak in a different language and you ONLY hear of the bad ones and not the BILLION of good ones, doesn't mean you treat them not equal. Learn for yourself. See the videos of true peaceful Muslims on youtube.

My my choice to convert to islam will be tonight. And unless one good christian can give me a clear point from the bible or quran that shows me not too I will stay.

But these verses must not have other verses that say the complete opposite.

Bless you all

So that means we are rid of a troll?

Trolls are not welcome here.

 

[Elin]

Deuteronomy 14:8
The pig is also unclean; although it has a divided hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses.


Also, you see all the women in islam covering their head...
Jesus tells chrisitian women to do also yet they dont

Jesus says no such thing, troll.

 

[Elin]

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (NIV, Matthew 5:17–18)
Hes specifically saying the old testament laws are still intact.

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Old Testament: Exodus 21:24

eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
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Then later in the New Testament: Matthew 5:38-48

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
​

These two obviously conflict each other. So I ask again. Does the New Testament override the oldOr is h?

Or is he just FULFILLING the OLD TESTAMENT, he never did abolish it

If you follow jesus, you will follow this
‘The Scripture cannot be broken’ (John 10:35)

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Corinthians 11:6
"For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head."

A few verses after he mentions about prayer, here he is stating
11:13
"Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?" He asks, doesnt Command as the first verse

Jesus is not speaking in Corinthians, troll.

 

[Elin]

Lol, No i read that, but then i read him say we are still under that law...

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (NIV, Matthew 5:17–18)
Hes specifically saying the old testament laws are still intact.

If you follow jesus, you will follow this
‘The Scripture cannot be broken’ (John 10:35)

If you became a Muslim last night, why are you still here, troll?

 

[dcontroversal]

I agree with this post but not your other. Anything I mentioned about jesus ARENT MY OPINIONS. Anything YOU all posted about jesus were opinions. PROVE TO ME HE IS GOD. WHEN he CLEARLY SAYS I am not god. HOW is one suppose to think????????????????????

At the time he said that he had disrobed himself of glory and came to be a MAN so as to taste death for you and I....

 

[Elin]

So who will answer me on why so many christians do things they are not suppose to while its in the bible.
What am i suppose to believe...

No one has answered me on the original post, of why these verses are in the bible if no one follows them.[/Q

So you were lying about becoming a Muslim last night, because you are still here, troll.

Deceiving trolls do not deserve answers.

Trolls are not welcome here.

 

[Elin]

Correct, let me restate what i meant.
Bless you all first and foremost.

I love everyone, and am just trying to get some help, I dont know if i should stay christian or convert..
Help is all i need everyone. Who knows, maybe through these posts God can help me through you all.
Why dont christians in general follow what the bible says to do, as the jews follow the torah and muslims follow the quran,It makes sense that he was a messenger of god, and was born through gods spirit, which is mentioned in the quran and makes sense. Doesnt say jesus is god then says hes not, nor does it say about that for muhammad.
And muhammad is CLEARLY different then what i heard about in the media.
Christians athiest media people hate on muslims because theyre afraid people will find out the truth.
But im not here to talk about muslims, because were still christians..

Most of things christians believe in today were theories created in the olden times rather than actual scriptures in the bible..

CAN someone answer Every question i have please, with good sources PLEASE.
Im not asking for much but help, I have watched few videos on youtube which are very interesting and should help me out, I want to know if i should agree with those videos, because some will and some wont.
Thanks i have also left the videos down below. with the question i ask..

Do i believe jesus is god. or son of god?
Dont ask me that, ask our fellow christians who are still christian and dont believe that. Ask the christians who just say that because they dont know what else to believe.

You are still here?

This post has to be the most insulting of all.

Do you actually think members here don't see your concocted ruse?

Trolls, particularly dumb ones, are not welcome here.