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John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say , and what I should speak.
We are both right on this one. It was His Father's commandments that Jesus spoke and John heard. John said in the beginning was the Word.
1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon , and our hands have handled , of the Word of life;
We are both right on this one. It was His Father's commandments that Jesus spoke and John heard. John said in the beginning was the Word.
1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon , and our hands have handled , of the Word of life;
Just-me but physical circumcision was part of the Law given to them.
Genesis 17:10-11
This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
But Here God himself shows, He had a better plan all along in Christ.
Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.
Physical circumcision flesh , His talking about his very own Law. The Covenant of Circumcision.between me and you and thy seed after thee
God plans are perfect always
Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.
Just-me why did the disciples of Jesus Christ not uphold the law of Physical circumcision towards the Gentiles.
The only one that can circumcision the heart is God.
God Bless
Genesis 17:10-11
This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
But Here God himself shows, He had a better plan all along in Christ.
Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.
Physical circumcision flesh , His talking about his very own Law. The Covenant of Circumcision.between me and you and thy seed after thee
God plans are perfect always
Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.
Just-me why did the disciples of Jesus Christ not uphold the law of Physical circumcision towards the Gentiles.
The only one that can circumcision the heart is God.
God Bless
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In the written New Covenant given to the churches, acting as the mirror to their body, spirit and soul condition and conditioning. And in accordance to that, in the Gospel, JESUS did mention about fasting and prayers in order to cast out certain demon. HE also mentioned to the Pharisees about HIS disciple's time fasting will take place when the bridegroom is taken away from them. And also in the beginning, JESUS taught in the Gospel about the rewarding way of fast conducting individually.
Please also by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, refer Isaiah 58, about true and false fasting, spoken by the Living GOD Himself.
Be blessed all in the Spiritual sound doctrine knowledge and be fruitful in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Please also by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, refer Isaiah 58, about true and false fasting, spoken by the Living GOD Himself.
Be blessed all in the Spiritual sound doctrine knowledge and be fruitful in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
L
1 Corinthians 11:24-26 (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
Jesus gave us this to remember Him by and show the Lord's death.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
Jesus gave us this to remember Him by and show the Lord's death.
J
When does it get to where the question is whether some accept the clear teachings of Paul, New Testament Christianity, or not? I've noticed a denial of very explicit verses, submitted numerous times. I was also musing I've never been through the door of a Bible believing Christian church that teaches any of the garbage seen here, you know what I mean? Other than some weird Hebrew roots individuals and groups, where is this stuff taught and believed? What mainstream, Protestant denomination, not a cult, teaches any of the weird, Jew-lite stuff you see here?
The joyous life that God wants for us to live is just not that hard to understand. God lays out the way to be saved, it is through faith and grace. Faith is simply reading scripture that is reinforced with the Holy Spirit and hanging your entire life on that scripture. Christ died for us, he paid for our sin, so we have forgiveness when we miss the mark.
It is the next step that makes lots of people act like balky two year olds. God lays out a plan for living that results in a world of abundance and joy. God gives work, rest, play, and holiday instructions. It takes care of the children, oversees the marriages, arranges our workweek. Few people have tried it, but when they have it has worked! Most of these posts are made by our balky two year olds, saying they just don't believe in it.
The world has been set up by people who don't believe a word of it. For instance, celebrating the feasts would be very difficult for they are family oriented, and our family unity is gone.
It amazes me that the only ones who has tried to live this way say the Christ who we know is still to come!! You would think that with our understanding of Christ, we would be the ones who would want to follow all the way, in spirit and truth and with our acts too.
It is the next step that makes lots of people act like balky two year olds. God lays out a plan for living that results in a world of abundance and joy. God gives work, rest, play, and holiday instructions. It takes care of the children, oversees the marriages, arranges our workweek. Few people have tried it, but when they have it has worked! Most of these posts are made by our balky two year olds, saying they just don't believe in it.
The world has been set up by people who don't believe a word of it. For instance, celebrating the feasts would be very difficult for they are family oriented, and our family unity is gone.
It amazes me that the only ones who has tried to live this way say the Christ who we know is still to come!! You would think that with our understanding of Christ, we would be the ones who would want to follow all the way, in spirit and truth and with our acts too.
Paul didn't seem to wound up over the feasts...probably had more important matters going on...
Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft. Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness. Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches. Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not? If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.
(2Co 11:23-30)
Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft. Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness. Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches. Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not? If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.
(2Co 11:23-30)
I was just reading some of the letters Constantine wrote, he said that all Jews were murders. He set up our church policies. Christ is the only person who ever lived who is allowed any Jewishness. People even allowed Christ to keep the feasts, but they are banned to everyone else. Paul just squeaked by even if he said he was a Torah keeping Pharisee because people have decided he rejected all Jews and became thoroughly gentile who denied much of the Old Testament.
After gleaning through these posts, I see Satan's great lies to the people, that being that they are "Church" and not "Israel".
The KJV uses the word "Church", Strong's # G1577. The equivalent words from LXX are Strong's H3862 and H6951. Here is how they read in Strong's:
G1577
ἐκκλησία
ekklēsia
ek-klay-see'-ah
From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is, (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both): - assembly, church.
LXX related word(s)
H3862 lahaqah
H6951 qahal
H3862
להקה
lahăqâh
lah-hak-aw'
Probably from an unused root meaning to gather; an assembly: - company.
H6951
קהל
qâhâl
kaw-hawl
From H6950; assemblage (usually concretely): - assembly, company, congregation, multitude.
The Big Lie is that Jesus came to start "The Church". We are all Israel of God through Christ. Once the Holy Spirit convicts you of the deception, you will have eyes to see and ears to hear and understand what is truth in scripture and what the Christian Churches have passed down as being separate from Israel is a big fat lie. The whole Bible then becomes relevant and easy to understand.
Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
The KJV uses the word "Church", Strong's # G1577. The equivalent words from LXX are Strong's H3862 and H6951. Here is how they read in Strong's:
G1577
ἐκκλησία
ekklēsia
ek-klay-see'-ah
From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is, (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both): - assembly, church.
LXX related word(s)
H3862 lahaqah
H6951 qahal
H3862
להקה
lahăqâh
lah-hak-aw'
Probably from an unused root meaning to gather; an assembly: - company.
H6951
קהל
qâhâl
kaw-hawl
From H6950; assemblage (usually concretely): - assembly, company, congregation, multitude.
The Big Lie is that Jesus came to start "The Church". We are all Israel of God through Christ. Once the Holy Spirit convicts you of the deception, you will have eyes to see and ears to hear and understand what is truth in scripture and what the Christian Churches have passed down as being separate from Israel is a big fat lie. The whole Bible then becomes relevant and easy to understand.
Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
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