What is written on the tablets of stone?

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I am looking for PROOF that what is written in Exodus 20:3-17 is what the “Ten Words” or “Ten Commandments” were. I know God said those things that are in Exodus 20, but I want to know what was REALLY written on the tablets of stone. There are three scripture references that speak of the tablets of stone, but none mention Exodus 20. I see "covenant" but not really what man has labelled the "Ten Commandments."
Exodus 34:28 -"Moshe was there with ADONAI forty days and forty nights, during which time he neither ate food nor drank water. [ADONAI] wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Words."
Deuteronomy 4:13 -"He proclaimed his covenant to you, which he ordered you to obey, the Ten Words; and he wrote them on two stone tablets."
Deuteronomy 10:4 -"He inscribed the tablets with the same inscription as before, the Ten Words which ADONAI proclaimed to you from the fire on the mountain the day of the assembly; and ADONAI gave them to me."
 

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The Ten Commandments, the Statutes and the Testimony.
 
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After thinking about this for a while, and then thinking about what Zacharias said after he was able to talk, it appears that John the baptist had something to do with it, strange as that may sound. I boldened certain phrases that stand out to me.

"And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied , saying , Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people , And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us; To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant; The oath which he sware to our father Abraham, That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life." (Luke 1:67-75)

Looking at Exodus 34:28, I see "he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant." No where do I find plural "covenants" written on stone. It appears that the ten commandments written on stone was a single covenant.

In Ezekiel 16:60 God says that He will remember His covenant with Jerusalem in the days of her youth, and establish an "everlasting covenant."

Then in Hebrews 13:20 we read "Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,"

Now to complete my thoughts, in Genesis 17:5-7 God says the covenant is everlasting to Abraham and his seed.

Galatians 3:29 says "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

So it appears to me that the 10 things written on stone could very possibly be 10 things in the plan of salvation from the get go. I can't break those things down, because I don't know what the 10 steps would be finished with Christ Jesus. I do know that the number 10 has spiritual meaning.

Blessings toward all. Just putting scripture together.
 
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Deuteronomy 10:2-4 KJV
(2) And I will write on the tables the words that were in the first tables which thou brakest, and thou shalt put them in the ark.
(3) And I made an ark of shittim wood, and hewed two tables of stone like unto the first, and went up into the mount, having the two tables in mine hand.
(4) And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the LORD spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the LORD gave them unto me.
 
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After thinking about this for a while, and then thinking about what Zacharias said after he was able to talk, it appears that John the baptist had something to do with it, strange as that may sound. I boldened certain phrases that stand out to me.

"And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied , saying , Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people , And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us; To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant; The oath which he sware to our father Abraham, That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life." (Luke 1:67-75)

Looking at Exodus 34:28, I see "he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant." No where do I find plural "covenants" written on stone. It appears that the ten commandments written on stone was a single covenant.

In Ezekiel 16:60 God says that He will remember His covenant with Jerusalem in the days of her youth, and establish an "everlasting covenant."

Then in Hebrews 13:20 we read "Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,"

Now to complete my thoughts, in Genesis 17:5-7 God says the covenant is everlasting to Abraham and his seed.

Galatians 3:29 says "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

So it appears to me that the 10 things written on stone could very possibly be 10 things in the plan of salvation from the get go. I can't break those things down, because I don't know what the 10 steps would be finished with Christ Jesus. I do know that the number 10 has spiritual meaning.

Blessings toward all. Just putting scripture together.
2 Corinthians 3:7 KJV
(7) But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:


It cannot be the covenant with Abraham unless you think the covenant with Abraham is a ministration of death?
 
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Deuteronomy 10:2-4 KJV
(2) And I will write on the tables the words that were in the first tables which thou brakest, and thou shalt put them in the ark.
(3) And I made an ark of shittim wood, and hewed two tables of stone like unto the first, and went up into the mount, having the two tables in mine hand.
(4) And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the LORD spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the LORD gave them unto me.
Thank you for your input. What I am looking for is what was written on the stone tablets, the words themselves. The phrase “Ten Commandments” was concocted by man and I know what we commonly refer to as the Ten Commandments. But I want to know exactly what was written on those stone tablets because directly translated from the Hebrew as in the OP, the phrase is “wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Words." I strongly suspect it was something other than a few ‘thou shalt nots’ as that doesn’t sound like the ingredients to a covenant to me.
 
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2 Corinthians 3:7 KJV
(7) But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:


It cannot be the covenant with Abraham unless you think the covenant with Abraham is a ministration of death?
It is clear that the words of the covenant are written on stone in Exodus 34:28 and Deuteronomy 4:13.

"And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."

"And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform , even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone."

I connect the covenant with the ten Commandments. How do you read Exodus 34:28 and Deuteronomy 4:13?

Ministration is the same word as ministry meaning =1248 attendance (as a servant, etc.); figuratively (eleemosynary) aid, (official) service (especially of the Christian teacher, minister

2 Corinthians 3:7-9
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious , so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

ministration of death
ministration of the spirit
ministration of condemnation
ministration of righteousness

Looks like a process to me. The covenant of salvation.

Matthew 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Looks like a ministration of death to me. But of course, that's just the beginning of a new life in Christ. I'll stick with what I wrote in post #4
 
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What was written in stone has no bearing as to what is written in our hearts after having faith in the cross. I meant the law states that if you sleep with a women out of wedlock then you are guilty of adultery. Jesus said that if you look at women with lust ib your heart then you have already commuted adultrey
 
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What was written in stone has no bearing as to what is written in our hearts after having faith in the cross. I meant the law states that if you sleep with a women out of wedlock then you are guilty of adultery. Jesus said that if you look at women with lust ib your heart then you have already commuted adultrey
My first thought after reading your reply was, how did whatever is written on your heart get there if what was written on stone has no bearing on it? I wholeheartedly believe that the Bible is the account of a huge plan designed by God Himself to bring man back around to the original marriage type relationship He planned for us and had with Adam and Eve before the fall. The method He uses is “covenants” – initiated by Him and responded to by us… GOD --->Creation --->Adam sins – destroys the perfect relationship with God ---> God begins executing His plan to allow man to regain the intended relationship with Him by means of salvation through Jesus Christ. So, I can’t buy your explanation. I know covenants are way too important to push aside, especially when God’s Word says one was written in stone. I appreciate your comment but it still does not answer my original question.
 
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I'd still like somebody to give scripture proving that Exodus 20:3-17 are actually the words that were written on tables of stone at Mount Sinai. Anyone? :)
 
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2 Corinthians 3:7 KJV
(7) But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:


It cannot be the covenant with Abraham unless you think the covenant with Abraham is a ministration of death?
It's when man chose unwisely that the covenant became to them a ministration of death.
Deuteronomy 30:19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.
 
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My first thought after reading your reply was, how did whatever is written on your heart get there if what was written on stone has no bearing on it? I wholeheartedly believe that the Bible is the account of a huge plan designed by God Himself to bring man back around to the original marriage type relationship He planned for us and had with Adam and Eve before the fall. The method He uses is “covenants” – initiated by Him and responded to by us… GOD --->Creation --->Adam sins – destroys the perfect relationship with God ---> God begins executing His plan to allow man to regain the intended relationship with Him by means of salvation through Jesus Christ. So, I can’t buy your explanation. I know covenants are way too important to push aside, especially when God’s Word says one was written in stone. I appreciate your comment but it still does not answer my original question.
You must understand the cross and the work of the Holy Spirit. Remove your faith from the works that you do and place your faith in the cross. This allows the Holy Spirit to work in you and through you. It is the only way. Man cannot obtain, that why God sent His son to the cross. The gave the promise of the helper that is the Holy spirit and it is by him as we place our faith in the cross that we are able to keep God's morale code and by no other means. If we reckon it to what we do then we fail, because God will not accept our works only His works will he accept. Meaning we must yeild to the Spirit. I meant, Paul said it is no longer I that lives but Christ through me. Acknowledging that the works he did were not his one but performed by the Holy Spirit. I know that's deep but it is the truth.
 
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What was written in stone has no bearing as to what is written in our hearts after having faith in the cross. I meant the law states that if you sleep with a women out of wedlock then you are guilty of adultery. Jesus said that if you look at women with lust ib your heart then you have already commuted adultrey
The bearing:
This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: "Listen to the terms of this covenant and tell them to the people of Judah and to those who live in Jerusalem. Tell them that this is what the Lord , the God of Israel, says: 'Cursed is the man who does not obey the terms of this covenant - the terms I commanded your forefathers when I brought them out of Egypt, out of the iron-smelting furnace.' I said, 'Obey me and do everything I command you, andyou will be my people, and I will be your God..."
"I warned them again and again, saying, 'Obey me.' But they did not listen or pay attention; instead, they followed the stubbornness of their evil hearts. So I brought on them all the curses of the covenant I had commanded them to follow but they didn't not keep."
"This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time. I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts I will be their God and they will be my people."

The example:
The Word of God in Proverbs 4
...Take hold of my words with all your heart; keep my commands, and you will live.......Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it...

The fact:
The Word of God in NT is elaborating the Word of God in OT.
 
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I'd still like somebody to give scripture proving that Exodus 20:3-17 are actually the words that were written on tables of stone at Mount Sinai. Anyone? :)
Didn't post #5 answer the question?:confused:

And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the LORD spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the LORD gave them unto me.

The Israelites listened in first person to Exodus 20:2-17 in the midst of thunder and lightning, didn't they?
 
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Thank you, but it is not that I don't trust your opinion, but it is PROOF I am looking for.
O, some say they don’t believe in the First Commandment of the LORD thy God so the other nine are not relevant, but you can count on them from everlasting to everlasting. Some say they don’t add up, but there are ten of them and even if you subtract from them there are still ten. Others think that the curses will be multiplied if the 10 Commandments are forsaken, while others think they result in division. But I am calculating on their always being a blessing.

Thank you for the respectful way you told me to shove off :cool:. But as far as proof, it's in the pudding- but don't tell anyone.
 
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Didn't post #5 answer the question?:confused:

And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the LORD spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the LORD gave them unto me.

The Israelites listened in first person to Exodus 20:2-17 in the midst of thunder and lightning, didn't they?
*Exodus 20:1 KJV*
And God spake all these words, saying,

Yes and what was it that He spoke on the mount? The 10 commandments in Exodus 20.
 
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The "Go " of renunciation. " Lord, i will follow Thee whithersoever Thou goest." luke 9:57. Our Lord's attitude to this manis one of severe disgouragement because He knew what was in man. We would have said-"fancy losing the opportunity of winning that man!"Fancy bringing about him a north wind that froze him and "turned him away discouraged!" Never apologize for your Lord. The words of the hurt and offend until there is nothing left to hurt or offend. Jesus Christ has not tenderness whatever toward anything that is ultimately going to ruin a man in the service of God. our Lord's answers are based not on caprice, but on a knowledge of what is in man. If the Spirit of God brings to your mind a word of the Lord that hurts you, you may be sure that there is something He wants to hurt to death.
 
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v.58. These words knock the heart out of serving Jesus Christ because it is pleasing to me. The rigor of rejection leaves nothing but my Lord, myself, and forlorn hope. "Let the hundred fold come or go, your lodestar must be your relationship to Me, and I have nowhere to lay my head."
 
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v.59. This man did not want to disappoint Jesus, nor to hurt his father. We put sensitive loyalty to relatives in place of loyalty to Jesus Christ and Jesus has to take the last place. In a conflict of loyalty, obey Jesus Christ at all costs.