What is written on the tablets of stone?
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After reading several posts on this thread I believe that if Exodus 20:2-17 are a summary of the rest of the law that God gave to Moses, then all believers have to either accept all of what Moses recorded or nothing. Obviously Moses wrote the words down, otherwise we wouldn't have any record of the ten commandments.
If we are going to make one part of the law valid because they are written on stone, then it all has to be valid. If we are to say the law is abolished and void because of the cross, then we also have to make void what was written on the tables of stone. After all, there is no human on the face of the earth that can find them.
It appears to me that the tables of stone disappeared after king Solomon's reign ended. Is it all or nothing? Do we choose what we want from scripture? Do the ten commandments still apply? Or are they only a record of the covenant with Israel and not for gentiles?
Deuteronomy 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform , even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
Deuteronomy 9:9-11
9 When I was gone up into the mount to receive the tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant which the LORD made with you, then I abode in the mount forty days and forty nights, I neither did eat bread nor drink water:
10 And the LORD delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of God; and on them was written according to all the words, which the LORD spake with you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly.
11 And it came to pass at the end of forty days and forty nights, that the LORD gave me the two tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant.
1 Kings 8:9 There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone, which Moses put there at Horeb, when the LORD made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.
If we are going to make one part of the law valid because they are written on stone, then it all has to be valid. If we are to say the law is abolished and void because of the cross, then we also have to make void what was written on the tables of stone. After all, there is no human on the face of the earth that can find them.
It appears to me that the tables of stone disappeared after king Solomon's reign ended. Is it all or nothing? Do we choose what we want from scripture? Do the ten commandments still apply? Or are they only a record of the covenant with Israel and not for gentiles?
Deuteronomy 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform , even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
Deuteronomy 9:9-11
9 When I was gone up into the mount to receive the tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant which the LORD made with you, then I abode in the mount forty days and forty nights, I neither did eat bread nor drink water:
10 And the LORD delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of God; and on them was written according to all the words, which the LORD spake with you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly.
11 And it came to pass at the end of forty days and forty nights, that the LORD gave me the two tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant.
1 Kings 8:9 There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone, which Moses put there at Horeb, when the LORD made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.
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Deu 5:6 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deu 5:7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
Deu 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Deu 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deu 5:10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
Deu 5:11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Deu 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
Deu 5:13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
Deu 5:14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
Deu 5:16 Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Deu 5:17 Thou shalt not kill.
Deu 5:18 Neither shalt thou commit adultery.
Deu 5:19 Neither shalt thou steal.
Deu 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Deu 5:21 Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Deu 5:22 These words the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.
Blessings!!!!!!!
Deu 5:7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
Deu 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Deu 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deu 5:10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
Deu 5:11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Deu 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
Deu 5:13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
Deu 5:14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
Deu 5:16 Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Deu 5:17 Thou shalt not kill.
Deu 5:18 Neither shalt thou commit adultery.
Deu 5:19 Neither shalt thou steal.
Deu 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Deu 5:21 Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Deu 5:22 These words the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.
Blessings!!!!!!!
M
I prefer to worry about obeying the rules of the 10 commandments, and also the 4th, to remember the saturday (which the catholics blasfemed, changing it to sunday), then worring about what was written in the tittle of the laws (10 commandments or 10 words).
God illuminates your minds and hearts and spirits.
God illuminates your minds and hearts and spirits.
Kerry, from reading your posts it seems to me you simply don't get any of the spirit and truth in the Old Testament. If you lived before Christ, do you think you could have accepted atonement through the symbol of Christ's blood? Do you think that humans and their acts can have any connection at all to Christ, so Christ is expressed in human acts?
We are only told the commandments are written in stone, and that stone represents something that is everlasting and not wiped away with time, it does not represent a heart of stone.
God tells us exactly what we need to know, there are many mysteries. We are to have faith to cover the mysteries. I find a bigger mystery I would like to know. God said He created the earth "in the beginning". I want God to tell me exactly when that beginning was, and instead, I am to have faith in God without knowing. I don't think there is one chance at all that God will rewrite scripture to satisfy my curiosity.
We are only told the commandments are written in stone, and that stone represents something that is everlasting and not wiped away with time, it does not represent a heart of stone.
God tells us exactly what we need to know, there are many mysteries. We are to have faith to cover the mysteries. I find a bigger mystery I would like to know. God said He created the earth "in the beginning". I want God to tell me exactly when that beginning was, and instead, I am to have faith in God without knowing. I don't think there is one chance at all that God will rewrite scripture to satisfy my curiosity.
Your apology is accepted and I appreciate your comments.
When I first became a Christian, I took 2 Timothy 2:15 very seriously. (“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15). I studied every moment I could make free time, and for several years after that. Then about 40 years later I realized that I had become bored with reading the Bible and trying to learn something new from the scriptures I knew so well. I was ashamed of myself for feeling that way, but that is the fact - a Christian for 40 years and now bored.
I prayed, but had even become skeptical that my prayers were heard. So I got logical and asked myself what the Christianity was that Jesus taught, without all of the additions and "corrections" made by man and the multitude of denominations out there. That has opened up a whole new world of learning and questioning what I had blindly accepted as I listened to preachers and teachers. Digging deeper has made Bible study interesting again and I am learning new things almost daily.
If we look at the Bible as a jigsaw puzzle, our spiritual growth starts to look like a small cluster of a few pieces that fit together here, and another there, and yet another over there, etc.
Recently I have managed to connect a line from one side to the other (thanks to a study I did on the types of covenants God uses) but I still have lots of small sections that I have understanding of but I don’t have the entire picture yet. I suspect no two individuals’ puzzles look exactly the same because we are all at different stages of growth and God uses different things to teach different people according to what is going on in their lives.You appear to care deeply about our God and sincerely want to do His will. I suspect your puzzle will become more and more complete rather quickly.
The LORD bless you, and keep you; The LORD make His face shine on you, and be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance on you, And give you peace.
When I first became a Christian, I took 2 Timothy 2:15 very seriously. (“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15). I studied every moment I could make free time, and for several years after that. Then about 40 years later I realized that I had become bored with reading the Bible and trying to learn something new from the scriptures I knew so well. I was ashamed of myself for feeling that way, but that is the fact - a Christian for 40 years and now bored.
I prayed, but had even become skeptical that my prayers were heard. So I got logical and asked myself what the Christianity was that Jesus taught, without all of the additions and "corrections" made by man and the multitude of denominations out there. That has opened up a whole new world of learning and questioning what I had blindly accepted as I listened to preachers and teachers. Digging deeper has made Bible study interesting again and I am learning new things almost daily.
If we look at the Bible as a jigsaw puzzle, our spiritual growth starts to look like a small cluster of a few pieces that fit together here, and another there, and yet another over there, etc.
Recently I have managed to connect a line from one side to the other (thanks to a study I did on the types of covenants God uses) but I still have lots of small sections that I have understanding of but I don’t have the entire picture yet. I suspect no two individuals’ puzzles look exactly the same because we are all at different stages of growth and God uses different things to teach different people according to what is going on in their lives.You appear to care deeply about our God and sincerely want to do His will. I suspect your puzzle will become more and more complete rather quickly.
The LORD bless you, and keep you; The LORD make His face shine on you, and be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance on you, And give you peace.
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thanks. That's weirdly conforting to hear that from you, I am only 30 and I have passed tru the same feeling (I'm not the only one). At first I felt little guilty, and after praying about it, the Lord brought me refreshing ways to keep studing His Word. Recently I can say, being at CC and talking to other christians revived my faith, also watching some christian Bible studies on tv. And of course, the most important, going to Church.
I totally agree with you about comparing the Bible with a puzzle, more then one text tells the same meaning. For me, the Holy Scriptures is like a river, you can not enter twice, being the same person. You will have a different situation, a different age, and the answer will be still there. The love, exhortations and all the promisses.
Don't give up, the Lord knows you really well even before you were in the womb of your mother. I believe you're a vase, the Lord can use to spread His truth for the maximum of people as possible.
I pray to God illuminates your Bible studies.
God Bless.
thanks. That's weirdly conforting to hear that from you, I am only 30 and I have passed tru the same feeling (I'm not the only one). At first I felt little guilty, and after praying about it, the Lord brought me refreshing ways to keep studing His Word. Recently I can say, being at CC and talking to other christians revived my faith, also watching some christian Bible studies on tv. And of course, the most important, going to Church.I totally agree with you about comparing the Bible with a puzzle, more then one text tells the same meaning. For me, the Holy Scriptures is like a river, you can not enter twice, being the same person. You will have a different situation, a different age, and the answer will be still there. The love, exhortations and all the promisses.
Don't give up, the Lord knows you really well even before you were in the womb of your mother. I believe you're a vase, the Lord can use to spread His truth for the maximum of people as possible.
I pray to God illuminates your Bible studies.
God Bless.
M
I don't disagree about knowing God better, studying the Bible, actually I believe it is one of the greatest way to get closer to Him.
I just believe there's a limit as humans to know everything about Him, honestly, I believe we'll can know Him completely in the New Jerusalem, when satan will be dead forever.
I just believe there's a limit as humans to know everything about Him, honestly, I believe we'll can know Him completely in the New Jerusalem, when satan will be dead forever.
