I just want to thank you for your inital post that educated me to what occurs in these pot lache meetings so when i heard the phone in caller on insight state that she believes in "creator" and Jesus & that they are the same supreme being, the host did not rebuke her for this obvious err where you can not possibly believe in both. Jesus said " I am the way the truth an the life, no one comes to the Father except through me. I praise the Lord that this issue was brought up on here so I could phone the call in Show, get through and let that lady know that NO they are not the same. The Christian host of the program was obviously unaware of this as he said well if creator & Jesus are the same in your mind its all good (that would have been a definite unintentional deception to the native people in their traditional belief that God & the false gods are all one in the same). Praise the Lord for this thread & the good that will come of it. & praise the Lord that I actually sounded articulate when I called in. 