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And then continues in sequence, That after this the city is destroyed by the people of the "prince who is to come" the end of which shall be with a flood. which will continue until war desolations are determined.
So we have a sequence of events.
1. Messiah gets cut off (the cross)
2. City destroyed by a people of a prince who is to come.
3. The desolation of the city will continue until war desolations are determined.
The roman army destroyed the temple and city, they are the "people' of the "prince who is to come" not sure what titus father has to do with it.
no, for the following reasons.
1. It happens AFTER the war desolations are determined (remember, there were no verse cut offs in ancient writtings, Men added verse numbers, so it is an ongoing phrase)
2. Jesus spoke of the who would commit the abomination of desolation
3. Jesus did not commit abomination in future tense, so it could not have been him
4. Jesus did not confirm a 1 week covenant with anyone, He confirmed an eternal covenant with all mankind with his death on the cross. Which we already saw, was done in the beginning of verse 26.
Agreed. He did not make one, he confirmed one. but only for 7 years. It is like the US and Russia have a treaty, and they reconfirm it for another 7 years..
The messiah did not confirm any covenant for 1 week. then in the middle of the week commit the abomination which causes desolation.
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proves the op? I already told you, No verse proves it, Many verses show it to be true though.
So we have a sequence of events.
1. Messiah gets cut off (the cross)
2. City destroyed by a people of a prince who is to come.
3. The desolation of the city will continue until war desolations are determined.
The roman army destroyed the temple and city, they are the "people' of the "prince who is to come" not sure what titus father has to do with it.
no, for the following reasons.
1. It happens AFTER the war desolations are determined (remember, there were no verse cut offs in ancient writtings, Men added verse numbers, so it is an ongoing phrase)
2. Jesus spoke of the who would commit the abomination of desolation
3. Jesus did not commit abomination in future tense, so it could not have been him
4. Jesus did not confirm a 1 week covenant with anyone, He confirmed an eternal covenant with all mankind with his death on the cross. Which we already saw, was done in the beginning of verse 26.
Agreed. He did not make one, he confirmed one. but only for 7 years. It is like the US and Russia have a treaty, and they reconfirm it for another 7 years..
The messiah did not confirm any covenant for 1 week. then in the middle of the week commit the abomination which causes desolation.
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proves the op? I already told you, No verse proves it, Many verses show it to be true though.
a·bom·i·na·tion
əˌbäməˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
- a thing that causes disgust or hatred.
[COLOR=#878787 !important]"this bill is an abomination to all mankind"[/COLOR]
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[TD]atrocity, disgrace, horror, obscenity, outrage, evil, crime, monstrosity, anathema, bane"in both wars, internment was an abomination"[/TD]
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des·o·la·tion
ˌdesəˈlāSH(ə)n/
noun
a state of complete emptiness or destruction.
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[TD]bleakness, starkness, barrenness, sterility; More
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- anguished misery or loneliness.
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[TD]misery, sadness, unhappiness, despondency, sorrow, depression, grief, woe;[/TD]
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Matthew 23:37-38 KJVO Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
[38] Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
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Instead of trying to make things up. why do you not study history. to find out what it meant when it was written.
An abomination which makes desolate in Jesus day, and even in Daniels day meant an ifol or unclean thing placed in a holy place to make it desolate.
Antiochus epiphanies commited an abomination which makes desolate by slitting a pigs throat in the holy place.
Jesus said it would be standing in the holy place.
Daniel said it would be in the wing of the temple. and it would also cause sacrifice and burnt offering to ceasxe
An abomination which makes desolate in Jesus day, and even in Daniels day meant an ifol or unclean thing placed in a holy place to make it desolate.
Antiochus epiphanies commited an abomination which makes desolate by slitting a pigs throat in the holy place.
Jesus said it would be standing in the holy place.
Daniel said it would be in the wing of the temple. and it would also cause sacrifice and burnt offering to ceasxe
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There are those on this forum who believe and teach that the Anti-Christ will make a 7 year treaty with Israel that allows them to rebuild the temple and install again the OT worship system.
They present themselves as having a superior ability to interpret Scripture if someone disagrees with them.
My question is very simple.
Show me Scripture that clearly supports that belief.
I do not belief Dan. 9:27 supports that so show me another Scripture.
If we are presenting something as fact, we should also present indisputable evidence.
We all have opinions. But please do not state an opinion or assumption as Scripture fact.
And please stop implying that those who question your belief or disagree with you as being less intelligent or study less than you do.
They present themselves as having a superior ability to interpret Scripture if someone disagrees with them.
My question is very simple.
Show me Scripture that clearly supports that belief.
I do not belief Dan. 9:27 supports that so show me another Scripture.
If we are presenting something as fact, we should also present indisputable evidence.
We all have opinions. But please do not state an opinion or assumption as Scripture fact.
And please stop implying that those who question your belief or disagree with you as being less intelligent or study less than you do.
SO if this all took place in ADS 70, then where was the flood as mentioned in Daniel? 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined
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May 14, 1948 Israel became a nation
June 5-10, 1967 “Six Day War” Israel regains Jerusalem
How do these two events factor into biblical prophecy? Virtually NO ONE mentions these two events when talking about end-time events in biblical prophecy. Before May 14, 1948 there was no nation of Israel to talk about.
Why does Muhamad and Islam rarely come up in these conversations? Before Sept. 11, 2001 it NEVER came up in Christian conversations about end-time events. There are only four verses in the bible that use the word antichrist. Three of them explain in no uncertain terms what this is:
1 John 2:22 “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist that denieth the Father and the Son.”
1 John 4:3 “And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”
2 John 1:7 “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.”
On the Temple Mount in Jerusalem there stands an Islamic shrine known as the “Dome of the Rock”. Inside this structure there is a long inscription about Islam which contains this quote:
“The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His Word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and say not 'Three' - Cease! (it is) better for you! - God is only One God. Far be it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son.” Cited from: The Arabic Islamic Inscriptions On The Dome Of The Rock In Jerusalem, 72 AH / 692 CE
Could it be any more obvious?
Concerning the “Abomination of Desolation.” An event which will cause the sacrifices on the temple mount to cease. Has anyone noticed that Mark 13:14 refers to this as an “it” and not a “him”, i.e. a thing and not a person?
Mark 13:14 "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not…”
If The Dome of the Rock didn’t exist on the temple mount would there be a third temple already constructed there and in use? You know there would be a new temple! The Dome of the Rock seems to fit the requirements of an abomination of desolation. Friends if this is a correct interpretation, do you realize that this structure has stood there for 1,300 years right in front of our faces?
Revelation chapter 11: Could it be possible that when John is given a reed, instructed to measure the temple and told not to include the outside court that it’s because that is where the Dome of the Rock has been sitting for the past 1,300 years. There is evidence that the Dome of the Rock does not cover the site of the Holy of Holies which is where the temple actually stood. The outside court has been given to the Gentiles.
5 - THE WRONG ROCK
Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Could it be that most Christians are asking the wrong questions? Are we chasing heretical doctrines of eschatology?
June 5-10, 1967 “Six Day War” Israel regains Jerusalem
How do these two events factor into biblical prophecy? Virtually NO ONE mentions these two events when talking about end-time events in biblical prophecy. Before May 14, 1948 there was no nation of Israel to talk about.
Why does Muhamad and Islam rarely come up in these conversations? Before Sept. 11, 2001 it NEVER came up in Christian conversations about end-time events. There are only four verses in the bible that use the word antichrist. Three of them explain in no uncertain terms what this is:
1 John 2:22 “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist that denieth the Father and the Son.”
1 John 4:3 “And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”
2 John 1:7 “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.”
On the Temple Mount in Jerusalem there stands an Islamic shrine known as the “Dome of the Rock”. Inside this structure there is a long inscription about Islam which contains this quote:
“The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His Word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and say not 'Three' - Cease! (it is) better for you! - God is only One God. Far be it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son.” Cited from: The Arabic Islamic Inscriptions On The Dome Of The Rock In Jerusalem, 72 AH / 692 CE
Could it be any more obvious?
Concerning the “Abomination of Desolation.” An event which will cause the sacrifices on the temple mount to cease. Has anyone noticed that Mark 13:14 refers to this as an “it” and not a “him”, i.e. a thing and not a person?
Mark 13:14 "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not…”
If The Dome of the Rock didn’t exist on the temple mount would there be a third temple already constructed there and in use? You know there would be a new temple! The Dome of the Rock seems to fit the requirements of an abomination of desolation. Friends if this is a correct interpretation, do you realize that this structure has stood there for 1,300 years right in front of our faces?
Revelation chapter 11: Could it be possible that when John is given a reed, instructed to measure the temple and told not to include the outside court that it’s because that is where the Dome of the Rock has been sitting for the past 1,300 years. There is evidence that the Dome of the Rock does not cover the site of the Holy of Holies which is where the temple actually stood. The outside court has been given to the Gentiles.
5 - THE WRONG ROCK
Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Could it be that most Christians are asking the wrong questions? Are we chasing heretical doctrines of eschatology?
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