Bride isn't going to be in the tribulation

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]Exodus 9[/h]King James Version (KJV)

9 Then the Lord said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh, and tell him, Thus saith theLord God of the Hebrews, Let my people go, that they may serve me.
2 For if thou refuse to let them go, and wilt hold them still,
3 Behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thy cattle which is in the field, upon the horses, upon the asses, upon the camels, upon the oxen, and upon the sheep: there shall be a very grievous murrain.
4 And the Lord shall sever between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt: and there shall nothing die of all that is the children's of Israel.
5 And the Lord appointed a set time, saying, To morrow the Lord shall do this thing in the land.
6 And the Lord did that thing on the morrow, and all the cattle of Egypt died: but of the cattle of the children of Israel died not one.

I AM STILL WAITING TO SEE WHEN GOD TOOK ISRAEL TO HEAVEN HMMM I ONLY SEE THEY STILL ON THE EARTH AND NO PLAGUES ON THEM HMMMMM

 

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]Exodus 9[/h]King James Version (KJV)

18 Behold, to morrow about this time I will cause it to rain a very grievous hail, such as hath not been in Egypt since the foundation thereof even until now.
19 Send therefore now, and gather thy cattle, and all that thou hast in the field; for upon every man and beast which shall be found in the field, and shall not be brought home, the hail shall come down upon them, and they shall die.
20 He that feared the word of the Lord among the servants of Pharaoh made his servants and his cattle flee into the houses:
21 And he that regarded not the word of the Lord left his servants and his cattle in the field.
22 And the Lord said unto Moses, Stretch forth thine hand toward heaven, that there may be hail in all the land of Egypt, upon man, and upon beast, and upon every herb of the field, throughout the land of Egypt.
23 And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the Lord sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the Lord rained hail upon the land of Egypt.
24 So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation.
25 And the hail smote throughout all the land of Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast; and the hail smote every herb of the field, and brake every tree of the field.
26 Only in the land of Goshen, where the children of Israel were, was there no hail.

I WONDER WHAT VERSE 26 MEANS HMMM LIKE THEY WERE TAKEN INTO HEAVEN TO ESCAPE THIS TRIBULATION

 

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]Revelation 9[/h]King James Version (KJV)

9 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.



THIS IS ONLY THE FIFTH TRUMPET HMM AND SEEM LIKE GOD,S CHURCH OR PEOPLE ARE STIL ON THE EARTH ONLY THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE THE SEAL WHILE ON EARTH WERE TORMENTED GOD PEOPLE HAVE HIS SEAL AND ARE PROTECTED WHILE ON THE EARTH

 

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]Ezekiel 9[/h]King James Version (KJV)

9 He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand.
2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar.
3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;
4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.



QUESTION IS NOT THIS SAME SCENARIO IN REVELATION

ANGEL MEN

MARK OF BEAST VS SEAL OF GOD

DESTRUCTION STARTED AT GOD SANTUARY OR HOUSE HMMM

[h=3]1 Peter 4:17[/h]King James Version (KJV)

17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

 

[Isdaniel]

NOTE THE SEAL OF GOD PROTECTS GOD PEOPLE CHURCH DURING THE TRIBULATION READ PSLAM 91

EPHESIANS 4

30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.


PSLAM 91
1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence

8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

 

[Linda70]

Those people who are on the earth (from Revelation 4 through 19) are not the church. The "seal" of God is on the 144,000 (12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of the children of Israel...Rev. 7:4-8)...all Jews.

God has not appointed the Church to wrath (1 Thess. 5:9; Revelation 3:10)

Apparently most of you folks have such an aversion to dispensational theology that you are unable to differentiate groups of people. The church/bride of Christ is not appointed to God's wrath (which is what the tribulation is....all 7 years). The time of Jacob's trouble is for the nation of Israel and the Christ rejecters...it is a time of God's wrath and judgment. The church is not Israel and Israel is not the church.

 

[Blain]

FOR ALL PRETRIBUALTION PEOPLE COULD YOU ANSWER ME WHAT LESSON CAN WE LEARN FROM THES VERSES AS PERTAINING TO THE FUTURE RAPTURE ? THANKS

EXODUS 8

20 And the Lord said unto Moses, Rise up early in the morning, and stand before Pharaoh; lo, he cometh forth to the water; and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord, Let my people go, that they may serve me.
21 Else, if thou wilt not let my people go, behold, I will send swarms of flies upon thee, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people, and into thy houses: and the houses of the Egyptians shall be full of swarms of flies, and also the ground whereon they are.
22 And I will sever in that day the land of Goshen, in which my people dwell, that no swarms of flies shall be there; to the end thou mayest know that I am the Lord in the midst of the earth.
23 And I will put a division between my people and thy people: to morrow shall this sign be.
24 And the Lord did so; and there came a grievous swarm of flies into the house of Pharaoh, and into his servants' houses, and into all the land of Egypt: the land was corrupted by reason of the swarm of flies.


NOTE THREE OF THE PLAGUE THAT WERE IN EGYPT ARE FOUNFD IN REVELATION HMMM

ALSO WHY DID NOT GOD TAKE ISRAEL INTO HEAVEN ?

WHY WAS THERE A DIVISON BETWEEN GOD PEOPLE AND THE EGYPTIANS ?


WHY AND HOW WAS THE FLIES ONLY IN THE EGYPTIANS HOUSE AND NOT THE ISRAELITES ?

COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER ME THESE QUESTIONS

HMMM GOD DOES NOT CHANGE SO I AM WONDERING EGYPT , GOSHEN HMMM ON THE EARTH GOD DIVISION HMMM LOOKS LIKE NO ONE WENT TO HEAVEN THAT DAY HMMM I WONDERR WHY

First off I see no lesson in the plagues but I also do not study revelations or go into deep study of things like that, second even if I did I would not answer you as you are not genuinely asking but rather asking for arguments sake. I do not appreciate the your tone either, if you wish to debate fine but there is no need to be rude

 

[Isdaniel]

Those people who are on the earth (from Revelation 4 through 19) are not the church. The "seal" of God is on the 144,000 (12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of the children of Israel...Rev. 7:4-8)...all Jews.

God has not appointed the Church to wrath (1 Thess. 5:9; Revelation 3:10)

Apparently most of you folks have such an aversion to dispensational theology that you are unable to differentiate groups of people. The church/bride of Christ is not appointed to God's wrath (which is what the tribulation is....all 7 years). The time of Jacob's trouble is for the nation of Israel and the Christ rejecters...it is a time of God's wrath and judgment. The church is not Israel and Israel is not the church.

ISAIH 8
16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

i WONDER IF THIS IS THE ONLY THE 144000 HMMMMMM

 

[Isdaniel]

First off I see no lesson in the plagues but I also do not study revelations or go into deep study of things like that, second even if I did I would not answer you as you are not genuinely asking but rather asking for arguments sake. I do not appreciate the your tone either, if you wish to debate fine but there is no need to be rude

HEY DUDE IN MY COUNTRY THIS IS HOW WE SPEAK AND BELIEVE ME I AM NOT RUDE HMMMM ALSO EXPERIENCE TEACHES ME SOME PEOPLE WILL LIKE YOU SOME WILL NOT HMM

BE CAREFUL SOME MIGHT FIND YOU ARE ALSO SPEAKING RUDE EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY THINK OTHERWISE

 

[Linda70]

ISAIH 8
16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

i WONDER IF THIS IS THE ONLY THE 144000 HMMMMMM

Isaiah 8 has nothing to do with the prophecy of the 144,000 sealed Israelites in Revelation 7. Try again.

 

[jahsoul]

Those people who are on the earth (from Revelation 4 through 19) are not the church. The "seal" of God is on the 144,000 (12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of the children of Israel...Rev. 7:4-8)...all Jews.

God has not appointed the Church to wrath (1 Thess. 5:9; Revelation 3:10)

Apparently most of you folks have such an aversion to dispensational theology that you are unable to differentiate groups of people. The church/bride of Christ is not appointed to God's wrath (which is what the tribulation is....all 7 years). The time of Jacob's trouble is for the nation of Israel and the Christ rejecters...it is a time of God's wrath and judgment. The church is not Israel and Israel is not the church.

Hey Ms. Linda. It's true that I don't adhere to dispensation theology, but the New Testament clearly states that under Christ, we are one body, Jesus is the SEED of Abraham that would bless the world, and all prophets spoke of Him. Putting so much emphasis on a state that calls themselves Israel has led pastors to preach borderline heretic messages and been seen by some as apostate. Do I hate the people that live in Israel or even somewhat dislike them? No, in no way, but I treat them like I treat Muslims, Buddhist, Hindu, Atheist, etc. because they are all separated from God and know they need a Savior in Christ.

Also, 1 Thess. 5:9 does not speak of tribulation. In reading Revelations, it is pretty clear that The Great Tribulation and The Wrath of God are not the same thing. Also, if Revelation 3:10 is saying that we will be raptured, what did we overcome in 3:12?

These are questions that I asked when I was gaining understanding. If the Christ rejecters have their whole life to accept Christ and be part of the elect, how would us vanishing open their eyes? How is it that some Jew accepted and accept Christ but other don't? Is God selective with the blinding process or does anyone who come to the knowledge of Christ have the opportunity to come in the Body? If the church isn't Israel and vise versa, where do the Israelites who accepted Christ in the Bible fit? Who is the Israel of God?

 

[Blain]

HEY DUDE IN MY COUNTRY THIS IS HOW WE SPEAK AND BELIEVE ME I AM NOT RUDE HMMMM ALSO EXPERIENCE TEACHES ME SOME PEOPLE WILL LIKE YOU SOME WILL NOT HMM

BE CAREFUL SOME MIGHT FIND YOU ARE ALSO SPEAKING RUDE EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY THINK OTHERWISE

So you say hmmmm a lot and talk loudly all the time? because to other people you sound a little sarcastic and yelling with the caps.
And honestly people can think I am being rude it is of no concern of mine as long as I know in my heart I was not, plus people who know me well will know that I was not being rude.

 

[Isdaniel]

Isaiah 8 has nothing to do with the prophecy of the 144,000 sealed Israelites in Revelation 7. Try again.

tHE POINT IS THIS ALL GOD DISCIPLES MUST BE SEALED . ARE YOU ONE OF HIS DICIPLES ?

QUESTION IS IT ONLY THE 144000 ARE THE SEARVANTS OF GOD ?

Revelation 7

King James Version (KJV)

7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

 

[Blain]

tHE POINT IS THIS ALL GOD DISCIPLEAS MUST BE SEALED

QUESTION IS IT ONLY THE 144000 ARE THE SEARVANTS OF GOD ?

Revelation 7

King James Version (KJV)

7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

I think we already have been sealed, I think the second we are born again God marks our foreheads claiming us his

 

[Linda70]

I think we already have been sealed, I think the second we are born again God marks our foreheads claiming us his

I think Isdaniel is speaking of the 144,000 during the tribulation. However, the way he is going about explaining what he means is pretty confusing.

Yes, all believers in Christ are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise...(Ephesians 1:12-14; 4:30)

 

[Isdaniel]

So you say hmmmm a lot and talk loudly all the time? because to other people you sound a little sarcastic and yelling with the caps.
And honestly people can think I am being rude it is of no concern of mine as long as I know in my heart I was not, plus people who know me well will know that I was not being rude.

LIKE I SAID THE CAPS ARE NOT FOR SHOUTING . BUT TO HIGHLIGHT A POINT
IRONICALLY I LAUGHED BECAUSE I AM THE MOST SOFT SPOKEN PERSON THAT SOMEONE CAN MEET HMMM WHEN I TALK BIBLE WITH OTHER PEOPLE THEY ALWYAS MAKE JOKE AT ME TO SPEAK UP HMM AND THATS THAT . HEY I AM NEW AT INTERNET COMMUNICATION PROBALY THER ARE SOME HIDDEN RULES WHEN SPEAKIN THAT I HAVE TO LEARN TO COMMUNICATE WHEN WRITTING . WE ALL COME FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES

 

[Blain]

LIKE I SAID THE CAPS ARE NOT FOR SHOUTING . BUT TO HIGHLIGHT A POINT
IRONICALLY I LAUGHED BECAUSE I AM THE MOST SOFT SPOKEN PERSON THAT SOMEONE CAN MEET HMMM WHEN I TALK BIBLE WITH OTHER PEOPLE THEY ALWYAS MAKE JOKE AT ME TO SPEAK UP HMM AND THATS THAT . HEY I AM NEW AT INTERNET COMMUNICATION PROBALY THER ARE SOME HIDDEN RULES WHEN SPEAKIN THAT I HAVE TO LEARN TO COMMUNICATE WHEN WRITTING . WE ALL COME FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES

Your new to the internet communications? well yes normally when people get mad or want to talk loudly the put in caps

 

[Isdaniel]

I think Isdaniel is speaking of the 144,000 during the tribulation. However, the way he is going about explaining what he means is pretty confusing.

Yes, all believers in Christ are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise...(Ephesians 1:12-14; 4:30)

WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WITH THE SEAL OF GOD ON THE EARTH AT THIS TIME ?



REVELATION 9:4

[h=3]Revelation 9[/h]King James Version (KJV)

9 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

 

[Isdaniel]

NOTE THREE OF THE PLAGUE THAT WERE IN EGYPT ARE FOUNFD IN REVELATION HMMM

ALSO WHY DID NOT GOD TAKE ISRAEL INTO HEAVEN ?

WHY WAS THERE A DIVISON BETWEEN GOD PEOPLE AND THE EGYPTIANS ?


WHY AND HOW WAS THE FLIES ONLY IN THE EGYPTIANS HOUSE AND NOT THE ISRAELITES ?

COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER ME THESE QUESTIONS



I AM NOT MAD AND WANT TO SPEAK LOUDLY OK PEOPLE

 

[GreenNnice]

where is there anything in the bible about people saying "WHAT? MY FAMILY VANISHED!"
planes; trains and automobiles crashing....clothes lying around?
empty churches?

WHERE?

Seems to be a lot going on in Scripture, ohzone. It's not happened yet, but, someday, your family will say 'where' because YOU will disappear.

Luke17:

“It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. 32Remember Lot’s wife! 33Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it. 34I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”

Matthew 24

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[SUP]f[/SUP] but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. 42“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.