Can you Sin and Not Die?
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Jesus died for/because of unbelief, homwardbound.
this sin will be forgiven.
and it will be overcome by pistis (God's Gift of faith).
it's the one sin, though that will keep men from entering His Rest....because they are yet hating Him.
they do not believe He forgives.
that's why the Lawyers are so successful....they say He doesn't forgive.
God is a Merciful God.
that's what we show sinners....His MERCY.
in Christ.
that's all we have.
this sin will be forgiven.
and it will be overcome by pistis (God's Gift of faith).
it's the one sin, though that will keep men from entering His Rest....because they are yet hating Him.
they do not believe He forgives.
that's why the Lawyers are so successful....they say He doesn't forgive.
God is a Merciful God.
that's what we show sinners....His MERCY.
in Christ.
that's all we have.
Yes because of the unbelief, thank you and the following is just food for thought only, everyone is free to believe as they want to!!!!
you mentioned he will forgive you are we not forgiven already back at the cross or does Christ have to come back and shed more blood to get us future forgiveness if and whenever we might sin. And since it says that are past sins are forgiven how soon are anyones sin past? So the ? comes if and when I sin what do I do with it since there is no more forgiveness to be executed it is finished John 19:30 Well I sse this as we go to the throne of grace not fopr any further forgiveness but to Fasther and say thank you for that past sin being foirgiven as soon as it past, so Father that was not who I am now can you please teach me how to trust in you, so I am am out of the way and your perfection of love shed abroad in my heart shows through and all the people will praisnd not me, Thank you I do not know how you will do this through me but I know you will.
So please let us excercies finished work of God and rest as he has already rested. That is when real work genuine work takes over, which is not work its restful work, the love of God
2 Peter 1:8-10
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.
2 Peter 1:8-10
New International Version 1984 (NIV1984)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. [SUP]9 [/SUP]But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall,
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you mentioned he will forgive you are we not forgiven already back at the cross or does Christ have to come back and shed more blood to get us future forgiveness if and whenever we might sin. And since it says that are past sins are forgiven how soon are anyones sin past? So the ? comes if and when I sin what do I do with it since there is no more forgiveness to be executed it is finished John 19:30 Well I sse this as we go to the throne of grace not fopr any further forgiveness but to Fasther and say thank you for that past sin being foirgiven as soon as it past, so Father that was not who I am now can you please teach me how to trust in you, so I am am out of the way and your perfection of love shed abroad in my heart shows through and all the people will praisnd not me, Thank you I do not know how you will do this through me but I know you will.
So please let us excercies finished work of God and rest as he has already rested. That is when real work genuine work takes over, which is not work its restful work, the love of God
2 Peter 1:8-10
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.
2 Peter 1:8-10
New International Version 1984 (NIV1984)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. [SUP]9 [/SUP]But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall,
Cross references:
- 2 Peter 1:8 : Jn 15:2; Col 1:10; Tit 3:14
- 2 Peter 1:8 : S ver 2
- 2 Peter 1:9 : 1Jn 2:11
- 2 Peter 1:9 : Eph 5:26; S Mt 1:21
- 2 Peter 1:10 : S Ro 8:28
- 2 Peter 1:10 : Ps 15:5; 2Pe 3:17; Jude 24
I just re-read your post Zone and I think I mis read it the first time, you said this sin will be forgiven unbelief. I do not personally think unbelief is a sin for we are born with unbelief in and of the flesh, and Christ died for all sin and if unbelief is a sin then Christ did not die for all sin as John 1:29 claims behold the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world, the only thing he never died for was and is unbelief
Wow! thank you mark54 This is the Job of the Holy Ghost to bring people to Christ they get convicted of needing Christ for the world has done a great job on the sin issue using the word mistranslating and keeping guilt and sin afloat no one getting their consciences purged from sin through the final sacrifice of christ at the cross where from Father's vantage point is all taken away, and when we see this we can move to the Father of Christ through the coupler the Holy Ghost of promise being forever thankful to Father for taking away all sin you no longer having a conscience of sin as the jews did with their sacrifices year after year after year, feeliing guilty over and over again and again. Christ came to take that away all sin from Fathers vantage point and he did (it is finished.) But this world and a many of churches have mixed law and grace. Tell me can one mix oil and water? does it mix? I tell you one can stir it up and it up in a glass and it will appear to have mixed, but when all is calm down it seperates because it cannot mix. Well this is the same way with law and grace, people are caught up in the mixing and stirring of law and grace but when all is still and settled down one can see law and grace does not mix and never will, all sin has been taken away through the death of Christ for three days brought proof of the death was why he did not rise for three day in order to bring in the new covenant where all sins and lawless acts are behind Fathers back never to see again. So when one believes Father takes them into his bosom and we are safe in him, having our consciences purged from sin praising and thanking Fasther forevemore through the Holy Ghost that is the inner man of ones heart where one serves god and not the law of sin and death. dead to the world only live in it as an ambassador, being a citizen of heaven and wooing the people to live in the kingdom and then them becomonmg ambassadors as well.
E
I think blasphemy of the HS is unbelief. Because the HS was sent to teach us, to convict us, and to show us the way, If we reject what he teaches, reject his conviction, and either outright deny it, or try to make our own gospel (of works) then we have dissented from the teaching of the HS. According to the meaning of blasphemy, to dissent from what one teaches would be to blaspheme him.
Your correct. we are born in a state of unbelief. But as jesus told the pharisees, even thought they had actually commited an act of blasphemy by giving credit of the HS work through Christ to satan. He said they were in danger of commiting the unpardonable sin (the one he did not die for)
This shows that even though we are in a state of unbelief, we are given the chance to repent. If we die in this state, then we have committed the unpardonable sin with no chance left to repent.
Your correct. we are born in a state of unbelief. But as jesus told the pharisees, even thought they had actually commited an act of blasphemy by giving credit of the HS work through Christ to satan. He said they were in danger of commiting the unpardonable sin (the one he did not die for)
This shows that even though we are in a state of unbelief, we are given the chance to repent. If we die in this state, then we have committed the unpardonable sin with no chance left to repent.
Yes he died for the sin of the whole world and took all sin away from his Father's sight so Father can live in the believer seeing the believer through his son as perfect because of his Son thus the Holy Ghost lives in us.without this perfection of christ The Holly Ghost woud have never been able to live in anyone
The only thing that Christ never died for was blasphemy against the Holy Ghost and it is the Holy Ghosts job today to lead people to the truth, this is why Father needs us to ask for him to live not only in us but through us.
So if someone does not believe when the Holy Ghost is upon them through believers that are just being vessels for God to use them and that person that refused stays an unbeliever and when the time comes the ones that stayed as unbelievers never received forgiveness and are still in their sins and dead. This is why Father is taking so long for Father is merciful and their is only one thing left for us the people to do is change individually from unbelief to belief.
The only thing that Christ never died for was blasphemy against the Holy Ghost and it is the Holy Ghosts job today to lead people to the truth, this is why Father needs us to ask for him to live not only in us but through us.
So if someone does not believe when the Holy Ghost is upon them through believers that are just being vessels for God to use them and that person that refused stays an unbeliever and when the time comes the ones that stayed as unbelievers never received forgiveness and are still in their sins and dead. This is why Father is taking so long for Father is merciful and their is only one thing left for us the people to do is change individually from unbelief to belief.
A
[h=3]Hebrews 4:1-11[/h]
4 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
C
My friend,
a measure of faith has been given to all men. But that faith is grown or destroyed by what we do with that seeding. Jesus is the Light which enlightens every man who enter into this world. No one will be inexcusable.
They who died in the wilderness were without excuse because of their unbelief.
a measure of faith has been given to all men. But that faith is grown or destroyed by what we do with that seeding. Jesus is the Light which enlightens every man who enter into this world. No one will be inexcusable.
They who died in the wilderness were without excuse because of their unbelief.
I am not so sure about the Faith being grown for he said if you have faith as tiny as a mustard sewed you can say to this mountain move over into the ocean and it shall. Now I believe it is this way at a necessity if this needed to be done by Faith it will not by showing off. For I have seen a truck in full slide in the snow on highway 50 Lake Tahoe, stop within 1 foot and not hit the other car which was a van, and the man driving the truck shocked at what just took place with his mouth wide open ans my daughter shocked as well, in the passenger seat who had just gotten water baptised that day for repentance and a good conscience towards God saw this miracle happen, as I from God through me had put ny hands up in faith and said God stop this and it happened this is by no means anything of my doings itwas God through me doing this me only being God's vessel period. So the morrow of this experience just trust thuis God does just love you, you and you period it is no longer an issue of sin or not please ask God for your conscience to be purged as he will show anyone that asks what this means
In love Gid's type not the worlds way 1 Cor. 13:4 and onward true love the kind that the world does not accept
In love Gid's type not the worlds way 1 Cor. 13:4 and onward true love the kind that the world does not accept