Could Christ sin?
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Yep we do. We also still have the OLD nature. And thus these two natures fight and as one grows in Christ. the new nature will (should) win more than the old nature. However, the Old nature will never be 100 % taken out. It will win from time to time. To say it will not is a dangerous presumption. and only comes from Pride!
no.
John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
Romans 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh
2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
Hebrews 7:26
For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
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Hebrews 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Jesus could not possibly sympathize with the lustful passions of sinful flesh in any way having an infinitely pure mind, being Emmauel. its is in this respect He is totally separate from us. there was no sin nor even knowledge of sin in his temptations.
John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
this does not disqualify Him from being our High Priest, in fact it is the only that qualifies Him.
God knows full well what sin is however, making this act of Love all the more incomprehensibly amazing.
He was subject to every form of weakness and humanity we have though WITHOUT the possiblity of sin. its unthinakable.
a study on the word tempt to its root, applied to Christ is test/trial.
John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
Romans 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh
2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
Hebrews 7:26
For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
~
Hebrews 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Jesus could not possibly sympathize with the lustful passions of sinful flesh in any way having an infinitely pure mind, being Emmauel. its is in this respect He is totally separate from us. there was no sin nor even knowledge of sin in his temptations.
John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
this does not disqualify Him from being our High Priest, in fact it is the only that qualifies Him.
God knows full well what sin is however, making this act of Love all the more incomprehensibly amazing.
He was subject to every form of weakness and humanity we have though WITHOUT the possiblity of sin. its unthinakable.
a study on the word tempt to its root, applied to Christ is test/trial.
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sorry but we still have the flesh but at the same time Paul wrote this:
2 Corinthians 5:16-18
New King James Version (NKJV)
16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. 18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation,
we are not to regard the flesh or others flesh but the Spirit and be lead by the Spirit towards the upward call of God, not looking back or going back to the sin we left behind but always growing in Christ and reflecting His light and love to all around us so that we might have living waters flow from our hearts as well.
Yes the works of the flesh are easily recognized but so are the fruits of the Spirit.
Galatians 5
16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[c] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders,[d] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
sorry but we still have the flesh but at the same time Paul wrote this:
2 Corinthians 5:16-18
New King James Version (NKJV)
16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. 18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation,
we are not to regard the flesh or others flesh but the Spirit and be lead by the Spirit towards the upward call of God, not looking back or going back to the sin we left behind but always growing in Christ and reflecting His light and love to all around us so that we might have living waters flow from our hearts as well.
Yes the works of the flesh are easily recognized but so are the fruits of the Spirit.
Galatians 5
16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[c] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders,[d] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
The peril of perfectionism is that it seriously distorts the human mind. Imagine the contortions through which we must put ourselves to delude us into thinking that we have in fact achieved a state of sinlessness.
Inevitably the error of perfectionism breeds one, or usually two, deadly delusions. To convince ourselves that we have achieved sinlessness, we must either suffer from a radical overestimation of our moral performance or we must seriously underestimate the requirements of God’s law. The irony of perfectionism is this: Though it seeks to distance itself from antinomianism, it relentlessly and inevitably comes full circle to the same error.
http://www.ligonier.org/blog/heresy-perfectionism/
Inevitably the error of perfectionism breeds one, or usually two, deadly delusions. To convince ourselves that we have achieved sinlessness, we must either suffer from a radical overestimation of our moral performance or we must seriously underestimate the requirements of God’s law. The irony of perfectionism is this: Though it seeks to distance itself from antinomianism, it relentlessly and inevitably comes full circle to the same error.
http://www.ligonier.org/blog/heresy-perfectionism/
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The only one exposed is you, and am closed from on high 
Clean and white the righteousness of the saints
Clean and white the righteousness of the saints
Twice now you have refused to even respond to what I posted about the law and how people break it.
Yep. You been exposed. Your trying to earn your own righteousness. God will reject your bloody rags!
Either respond to what has been posted. Or Prove your a sham artist.
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One more try!
Originally Posted by eternally-gratefull
he problem we have is when people make the law (sinless) a prerequisite for salvation. or are foolish enough to think they do not sin. The pharisees thought this. Jesus even admitted they were some of the most righteous people on earth, by claiming unless our righteousness exceeds theirs we have no hope. The problem is our righteousness can't exceed theirs, even if we are saved.
It is somewhat easy to not do the well known sins (adultry, fornication, murder etc) But how many of us really do the others on a 100 % basis. things like:
Love the lord with all your heart mind and soul: How many of us can say without a doubt we always put God first, in every area of our lives? I think if Christ himself appeared to us, and we saw our real lives, we would all admit we do not love God perfectly.
Love your neighbor. Who does Christ call our neighbor? Everyone we come in contact with. We see some of the "sinless" people in here already fail in this category. Yet how many of us can truly say we always love anyone we come in contact the way God loves, that we would be willing to give our lives for them? (remember Christ died for us when we were his enemy!)
Covet: How many of us can truly say we NEVER EVER look at what someone else has, and even for a minute say, wow I wish I had that!
and finally pride. I first. How many can say they never put their needs above anyone else's. Or say they never have a moment of pride where they put self first, or take credit for anything. The fact is just saying one could be "sinless" and never do any of the things mentioned here is pride in itself and is a sin.
Originally Posted by eternally-gratefull
he problem we have is when people make the law (sinless) a prerequisite for salvation. or are foolish enough to think they do not sin. The pharisees thought this. Jesus even admitted they were some of the most righteous people on earth, by claiming unless our righteousness exceeds theirs we have no hope. The problem is our righteousness can't exceed theirs, even if we are saved.
It is somewhat easy to not do the well known sins (adultry, fornication, murder etc) But how many of us really do the others on a 100 % basis. things like:
Love the lord with all your heart mind and soul: How many of us can say without a doubt we always put God first, in every area of our lives? I think if Christ himself appeared to us, and we saw our real lives, we would all admit we do not love God perfectly.
Love your neighbor. Who does Christ call our neighbor? Everyone we come in contact with. We see some of the "sinless" people in here already fail in this category. Yet how many of us can truly say we always love anyone we come in contact the way God loves, that we would be willing to give our lives for them? (remember Christ died for us when we were his enemy!)
Covet: How many of us can truly say we NEVER EVER look at what someone else has, and even for a minute say, wow I wish I had that!
and finally pride. I first. How many can say they never put their needs above anyone else's. Or say they never have a moment of pride where they put self first, or take credit for anything. The fact is just saying one could be "sinless" and never do any of the things mentioned here is pride in itself and is a sin.
Originally Posted by notIbutChrist
Dual nature is a lie satan uses to keep people like you in sin
Dual nature is a lie satan uses to keep people like you in sin
Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Those that are Christ's HAVE crucified there flesh. Therefore if you have a dual nature, having yet to crucify your flesh, than you apparently do not belong to Christ.