Did Samson look physically strong?

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maxwel

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Jason,

I could also ask what kind of knickers the antichrist will be wearing...
and we could all have a lovely chat.

But it would still be silly.

If you want to bring up a topic that is COMPLETELY DOCTRINALLY IRRELEVANT...
that's fine.
Really.
It's just a bad idea to act so serious about it.
It's also a bad idea to get upset when people make a few jokes.
 
Jason0047

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maxwel said:
Jason,

I could also ask what kind of knickers the antichrist will be wearing...
and we could all have a lovely chat.

But it would still be silly.

If you want to bring up a topic that is COMPLETELY DOCTRINALLY IRRELEVANT...
that's fine.
Really.
It's just a bad idea to act so serious about it.
It's also a bad idea to get upset when people make a few jokes.
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I heard a Pastor say that Samson was not strong in appearance and he believed that to be very important. If he is right, then I want to know why. If it is taught in the Bible, then it would not be a trivial detail because no detail in the Bible is trivial or put there by accident.

As for jokes: I have no problem with jokes, as long as they are not directed at another person or the Bible and what they have to say about it.
 
maxwel

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Jason,

If you have some scripture to post about Samsons' appearance,
then please, just post it.
Then we'll be done here.

If you have no scripture, then it's silly to speculate on something the Bible doesn't discuss.
 
Jason0047

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maxwel said:
Jason,

If you have some scripture to post about Samsons' appearance,
then please, just post it.
Then we'll be done here.

If you have no scripture, then it's silly to speculate on something the Bible doesn't discuss.
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Someone has already posted a passage on it, but I wanted to see what other people have here before I do my study. It is not silly to ask the brethren to help in a particular study. You might think that is a problem but I do not see it as one. I mean, why are you so adversarily on this topic? Does it offend you? Do you want to be a part of the solution or make yourself as part of the problem?

For your comments here are not loving, Christ-like, or helpful.

As for having no Scripture: Did you actually do the study are you just saying you know everything about the story of Samson in perfect detail that there is to ever know about it?
 
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Jason0047

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I mean, I am just asking for help and you and some other people here are all jumping down my throat about it. That is just not something that is of God. I am sorry.

Oh, and folks who are giving you "likes" should be ashamed of themselves for backing your wrong behavior, too.
 
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Angela53510

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Hmm! A very interesting topic. Jason asking for extra biblical information that no one can provide.

I wonder if he arrives at all his doctrine this way? LOL

(Sorry, it is just a joke, not trying to be mean!)
 
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Angela53510 said:
Hmm! A very interesting topic. Jason asking for extra biblical information that no one can provide.

I wonder if he arrives at all his doctrine this way? LOL

(Sorry, it is just a joke, not trying to be mean!)
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I will say it again. Did you do the study? My guess is that you haven't, so you are making an assumption that there is nothing there without actually doing your own homework. Second, you are being mean by your backhanded comment about how I derived my doctrine and then laughing about it. In other words, I can say to a person that I do not mean to kick them down a flight of steps, and yet if I do so anyways, then my words have no meaning.
 
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maxwel

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Jason0047 said:
Someone has already posted a passage on it, but I wanted to see what other people have here before I do my study. It is not silly to ask the brethren to help in a particular study. You might think that is a problem but I do not see it as one. I mean, why are you so adversarily on this topic? Does it offend you? Do you want to be a part of the solution or make yourself as part of the problem?

For your comments here are not loving, Christ-like, or helpful.

As for having no Scripture: Did you actually do the study are you just saying you know everything about the story of Samson in perfect detail that there is to ever know about it?
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Jason,

I know, I know.
If anyone makes a joke....
you're being persecuted.

I understand.

Let's simplify this:
The only thing we know about Samson's appearance is that he didn't shave his head.
That's all.
There IS NOTHING TO STUDY.
THE SCRIPTURE IS SILENT ON THIS.

THERE IS NOTHING TO STUDY, OR DISCUSS.

He might have been skinny, or fat, or short, or tall, or muscular... we have no idea.
All we know is that he had long hair.

The scripture is silent on his physical appearance except for the Nazarite vow.
 
slave

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Well heres one I am not well versed on. Yet I know Samson was a Nazarite by His Mothers vow and when i compare Samuel in mannerisms I see Samson as not the norm in the ways of the Nazarites. Judges 14:6, 19tells the Spirit of God rushed upon them, this suggests the placement of Samson in a special place than some and when I look at the facts of the events of that time, such as the grip he would have had to have had while gripping those huge heavy gates of the city of Gaza and the balance he would have had to have to carry those up the hill I reason that larger hands and feet would of been practical to conclude. It is evidence to me that Gods need for us to know the facts are not necessary, for all he did was beyond normal mans provisions. Like Gideon when God thought 135,000 to 32,000 was too much in His favor reducing it to a 450 to 1 ratio in Gideons army of 300 God likes to do things so people know it was His doings not mans. So its possible he could have had Samson look like Woody Allen yet be that powerful as well. Or not I am not conclusive.
 
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maxwel said:
Jason,

I know, I know.
If anyone makes a joke....
you're being persecuted.

I understand.

Let's simplify this:
The only thing we know about Samson's appearance is that he didn't shave his head.
That's all.
There IS NOTHING TO STUDY.
THE SCRIPTURE IS SILENT ON THIS.

THERE IS NOTHING TO STUDY, OR DISCUSS.

He might have been skinny, or fat, or short, or tall, or muscular... we have no idea.
All we know is that he had long hair.

The scripture is silent on his physical appearance except for the Nazarite vow.
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I know the Scripture does not flat out say it point blank. I am saying that there may be hints and clues that allude to his physical appearance.

As for persecution: Yes, one can be verbally persecuted. Do you not know the reference in the New Testament about such a thing?
 
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p_rehbein said:
If someone here was an actual eye witness, and saw Sampson in person, spoke with him and such, I'd be interested in their comments.......everything else is simple speculation.
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I see Sampson every day.

He is physically strong but he is getting old. He drinks lots of water in the summer time.

And he barks a lot. I tell him not to but he doesn't care.

He's a St. Bernard and his 'wifes' name is Cheyenne. I wanted to name her Delilah but was outvoted 3-1.
 
slave

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I haven't done an overwhelming study but like Gideons story I assume God desires people to give Him the glory. As I read the story refreshingly quick I see people wondered about where his strength came from? So, if he was the Hulk they would have assumed it to be his strength alone or his training. After 1,000's of stricken Philistines bare-handed one would want to know of such strength and its message if it were a ordinary guy doing it. But then again The feats were such that perhaps he was fit but not green ????smile.
 
dcontroversal

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Who cares and how would that change the narrative of the story and truth presented!
 
Jason0047

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Anyways, I did find some quick searching and I found a verse in Scripture that does suggest that Samson was not a muscle type man like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

There hath not come a rasor upon mine head; for I have been a Nazarite unto God from my mother's womb: if I be shaven, then my strength will go from me, and I shall become weak, and be like any other man. (Judges 16:17).​

Now, if Samson did look like a body builder and or he was super huge and stuff, then how could he be weak like any other man? The short answer is that he couldn't be weak like any other man if in fact he was all muscular and looked like a big ole hercules type guy.
 
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But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; (1 Corinthians 1:27).
 
Jason0047

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"....for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart."
(1 Samuel 16:7).
 
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Jason0047 said:
I mean, I am just asking for help and you and some other people here are all jumping down my throat about it. That is just not something that is of God. I am sorry.

Oh, and folks who are giving you "likes" should be ashamed of themselves for backing your wrong behavior, too.
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So now you're going to dictate the criteria for giving 'likes'?
 
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crossnote said:
So now you're going to dictate the criteria for giving 'likes'?
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No. I am merely saying it was wrong of them to back wrong behavior. Surely if you cannot see it, then I would ask God to help you to see it. For it is serious.
 
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A "Rep Power" (whatever that really means ?) of 16 !

Do they give these brownie-points away as raffle prizes ?
 
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