Did Samson look physically strong?

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p_rehbein

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AAARRRGGGHHHHH...........

"Gimme a head with hair, long beautiful hair, golden flaxen, waxen hair................."


Is there any other single detail of Sampson's physical appearance mentioned in Scripture?

No? Well, good..............DEAL WITH IT.

(........... sigh .......)
 
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Jason,

A question for you,Was this question truly a real question or was this question designed as a trap question in which in the end you could play the martyr? On the surface that's what it appears to be. You didn't respond to those who appeared to be responding to you in a positive manner according to you,instead your first response back was about being mocked. Since then you have done very little on responding other then playing the martyr card. I hoping I'm wrong but something I don't think so.
Wow. Really? You honestly think I asked the question with the hopeful expectation that people would attack me? That is just crazy and it never even entered my mind when I asked the question. I asked the question because I was hoping to know what other Christians had learned about this topic. I was hoping for believers to act professional and helpful in reply.
 
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AAARRRGGGHHHHH...........

"Gimme a head with hair, long beautiful hair, golden flaxen, waxen hair................."


Is there any other single detail of Sampson's physical appearance mentioned in Scripture?

No? Well, good..............DEAL WITH IT.

(........... sigh .......)
A detective does not need to know that an elephant came thru a forest by having someone give them a physical description of the beast, especiallly if there are actual elephant footprints in the ground and tree branches that were pushed back.

A good detective can piece together the facts or evidences of a case or scene and know what has happened without the obvious details hitting them over the head.

When I say .... "good detective", I am referring to one being a "good berean."

Read Judges 16:17 and reason thru the logic of that verse and what it says. Samson said if his hair is cut he will become weak like every other man. Okay. Arnold Schwarzenegger when he was in his prime of working out was not like every other man in strength. I cannot say Samson was like Arnold because Samson by his own words said he would become weak like every other man. Every other man is not an Arnold because the man has obvious strength that can be seen by his muscles that are really huge. Most every other man is not like an Arnold. Arnold back in his day was a super strong dude who was not weak like every other man. Also, just stop and think about it. His enemies would not need to figure out the source of his strength if they seen he had really big muscles. They would be just like.... "Oh, he is strong because he has big muscles." It was the whole reason why they needed to figure out the mystery why he was so strong BECAUSE he was just like every other guy. Samson said so himself.
 

p_rehbein

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Of what possible value is this thread to believers? Does it IN ANY WAY advance the Kingdom? How does it glorify God? Does it edify the Church?

Nonsensical pondering is not exactly a "fruit of the Spirit" is it?
 
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Wow. Really? You honestly think I asked the question with the hopeful expectation that people would attack me? That is just crazy and it never even entered my mind when I asked the question. I asked the question because I was hoping to know what other Christians had learned about this topic. I was hoping for believers to act professional and helpful in reply.

I said on the surface it appears that way. And again have you responded to the people that were talking about it or have you spent your time on your soap box complaining about being mocked?
 

p_rehbein

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Here Jason.................


[h=3]What the Bible Says about Samson - Official Bible...[/h]
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[h=3]What the Bible Says about Samson[/h]Samson was from the Israelite tribe of Dan. According to the Bible, the Danite tribe consisted of the descendants of Dan, a son of Jacob and Bilhah, Rachel’s maidservant (Genesis 30:40). In the Biblical account, Dan is one of the two children of Bilhah, Rachel’s handmaid and one of Jacob’s wives, the other child of Bilhah being Naphtali. Some scholars see this as indicating that the authors saw Dan and Naphtali as being not of entirely Israelite origin (being descendants of handmaids rather than of full wives) so I can only presume that may be why they portrayed Samson as black in this movie series; however, the Bible does not say Samson was black, nor that he was not of the Jewish race. This is theory, in my opinion, as the Bible does not tell us what color of skin Samson had. Certainly there is a possibility there were Ethiopians who may have been black who joined the original Israelites. Moses married one. (Moses’ first wife Zipporah was “Shemitic” (descended of Noah’s son Shem). However, Moses married a second time to a woman from Ethiopia (Kush)–whose name is never mentioned. This can be found in the Bible: Numbers 12:1: And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.)
 
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Laodicea

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Did Samson look physically strong?

I know some have claimed that the Bible is silent on such a matter, but I am calling on all Bereans to see whether or not that is truly the case or not. I am going to do my own personal study on this to see myself.
Yes the Bible does not say, but it says this

Judges 14:5-6 KJV
(5) Then went Samson down, and his father and his mother, to Timnath, and came to the vineyards of Timnath: and, behold, a young lion roared against him.
(6) And the Spirit of the LORD came mightily upon him, and he rent him as he would have rent a kid, and he had nothing in his hand: but he told not his father or his mother what he had done.


Samson became strong when the Spirit of the Lord came upon him.


 
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Of what possible value is this thread to believers? Does it IN ANY WAY advance the Kingdom? How does it glorify God? Does it edify the Church?

Nonsensical pondering is not exactly a "fruit of the Spirit" is it?
Anyone who is born of the Spirit and who has studied God's Word by the Spirit for any length knows that even the most smallest details in the Bible can have the biggest message. No detail in God's Word is ever trivial. For all Scripture is profitable (2 Timothy 3:16). So yes, it is a fruit of the Spirit because the Spirit guides us into all truth within God's Word.

Jesus can be found even in the smallest details in the 1st chapter of Genesis.

See this link here:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/96374-jesus-genesis-chapter-1-a.html

The Cross can be found in the Israelite Camp Arrangement:



The Camp of Israel

In addition, in the story of Joseph: When Judah took on the guilt of the cup that was supposed to be for Benjamin, we also learn something interesting. For Judah was willing to lay down his life for his brother over a cup that condemned him. We can see a similar loose parallel of this in the Garden of Gethsemane. Jesus took on the sins of the entire world when he took the cup from the Father in prayer. For he was wounded for our transgressions and crushed for our iniquities. For the Scriptures say that Jesus bore our sins within his body. He was our substitute.

I could go on about the importance of many other details that I and others have found in the Bible, but if you do not appreciate them or see them, then you are never going to get it.
 
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Yes the Bible does not say, but it says this

Judges 14:5-6 KJV
(5) Then went Samson down, and his father and his mother, to Timnath, and came to the vineyards of Timnath: and, behold, a young lion roared against him.
(6) And the Spirit of the LORD came mightily upon him, and he rent him as he would have rent a kid, and he had nothing in his hand: but he told not his father or his mother what he had done.


Samson became strong when the Spirit of the Lord came upon him.


See Judges 16:17. It is a big clue. If Samson would be weak like every other man then it is logical to assume he was not an Arnold or a super musclar dude. For his enemies were trying to figure out the source of his strength. It doesn't take a detective to figure out that if he did have big muscles that they would be like.....

"Hey, you know what? He is probably strong because he has really big muscles."​

So that is why he was not physically strong looking. For it is why they sent someone to figure out the source of his strength because it was not obvious by his appearance.
 
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Laodicea

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See Judges 16:17. It is a big clue. If Samson would be weak like every other man then it is logical to assume he was not an Arnold or a super musclar dude. For his enemies were trying to figure out the source of his strength. It doesn't take a detective to figure out that if he did have big muscles that they would be like.....

"Hey, you know what? He is probably strong because he has really big muscles."​

So that is why he was not physically strong looking. For it is why they sent someone to figure out the source of his strength because it was not obvious by his appearance.

Yes I have noticed that and thought of that. If he looked like Arnold it would be easy to figure out, but his strength came from God not self.
 
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Yes I have noticed that and thought of that. If he looked like Arnold it would be easy to figure out, but his strength came from God not self.
I remember when I first became a Christian. I seen pictures of Samson and when I read the story, it is easy to be influenced by that type of imagery. So I can see how people can be easily influenced by outside things that are not really found in the Bible.
 
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See Judges 16:17. It is a big clue. If Samson would be weak like every other man then it is logical to assume he was not an Arnold or a super musclar dude. For his enemies were trying to figure out the source of his strength. It doesn't take a detective to figure out that if he did have big muscles that they would be like.....

"Hey, you know what? He is probably strong because he has really big muscles."​

So that is why he was not physically strong looking. For it is why they sent someone to figure out the source of his strength because it was not obvious by his appearance.

Samson is probably not interesting because of his strength but the fact God blessed him even though he behaved in a very strange way. He initiated contact with the Philistines and ended up destroying their crops and killing many.

He finally fell in love with Delilah, and played tricks on her, until finally he told her the source of his strength.
It appears in many ways he was bored, and assumed things were just a game. The Lord blessed him even though he appeared to behave immorally. In a strange way he was a judgement on the philistines, who provoked Samson to take vengance.

Is this an example of grace abounding because of Samsons relationship with the Lord as long as he stayed faithful. He fell when he broke the nazarite commitment never to cut his hair.

The lesson maybe as long as you maintain the relationship between you and God, your failures do not damage your anointing.
 
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Hi Jason the following in the "by faith" chapter suggests Samsons strength
came from his faith. Sunday school children are taught his strength came
from his long hair, but IMO his long hair was just a symbol of his anointing
from God.

I always feel a little sorry for Samson, he was clearly anointed and chosen
by God, but I don't think he fully achieved all that God intended for him.
He wasted that anointing, but then at the end of his life imprisoned and
humiliated, he called on the name of the Lord again and the anointing came
giving him strength once again.

As to whether he looked physically strong, I don't believe the Bible says
either way. But bearing in mind that the people of bible times had
no modern day transport, machinery, agricultural machinery etc.
I think the people of the bible must have generally been fitter and more
athletic looking than modern day man.

Look at the disciples they rowed all night to catch fish and control the boat.
I don't know about you but I would have been dead after 10 minutes of rowing!


Hebrews 11:32-40 NKJV
[32] And what more shall I say? For the time would fail me to tell of Gideon and
Barak and Samson and Jephthah, also of David and Samuel and the prophets:
[33] who through faith subdued kingdoms, worked righteousness, obtained
promises, stopped the mouths of lions, [34] quenched the violence of fire,
escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, became
valiant in battle, turned to flight the armies of the aliens
. [35] Women
received their dead raised to life again. Others were tortured, not
accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection.
[36] Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains
and imprisonment.

[37] They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were
tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins
and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented- [38] of whom the
world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens
and caves of the earth. [39] And all these, having obtained a good
testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, [40] God having
provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect
apart from us.
He didn’t cut his hair because his parents made a Nazarite vow with God as described in Numbers 6 verses 1-21.

Miri, I doubt it if we can see Samson’s life as an under achievement… he is mentioned in the book of faith in Hebrews 11. He also has more than one chapter in the Bible about his life. Man, we should be so lucky :) … I think what we need to consider is that he was also sold out by Judah (the Jews). Interesting point to consider is that the Jews always tells us that they never accepted Yeshua because he didn’t deliver them from the rule of Rome. Samson was this warrior and they couldn’t even follow him into war against the Philistines :). He was broken and abused by the people he loved, they abandoned him… does this ring a bell? No my dear friend, compare to my life Samson was a legend and he knew ABBA Father personally.

To answer the OP I don't think he looked like a monster because imagine how you would have to look to pick up a gate of almost 60 tons. Gaza was one of the big five cities of the time and Samson removed the gates with the pillars and with research we can see that it was possible for these gates to have been gigantic (my son’s favorite word LOL).
 
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Anyone who is born of the Spirit and who has studied God's Word by the Spirit for any length knows that even the most smallest details in the Bible can have the biggest message. No detail in God's Word is ever trivial. For all Scripture is profitable (2 Timothy 3:16). So yes, it is a fruit of the Spirit because the Spirit guides us into all truth within God's Word.

Jesus can be found even in the smallest details in the 1st chapter of Genesis.

See this link here:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/96374-jesus-genesis-chapter-1-a.html

The Cross can be found in the Israelite Camp Arrangement:



The Camp of Israel

In addition, in the story of Joseph: When Judah took on the guilt of the cup that was supposed to be for Benjamin, we also learn something interesting. For Judah was willing to lay down his life for his brother over a cup that condemned him. We can see a similar loose parallel of this in the Garden of Gethsemane. Jesus took on the sins of the entire world when he took the cup from the Father in prayer. For he was wounded for our transgressions and crushed for our iniquities. For the Scriptures say that Jesus bore our sins within his body. He was our substitute.

I could go on about the importance of many other details that I and others have found in the Bible, but if you do not appreciate them or see them, then you are never going to get it.
If you look at the vow Judah made to his father it was an everlasting vow to protect Benjamin. Moving forward a couple of 100 years and Israel split up into 10 northern tribes and 2 southern tribes. Guess who was the two southern tribes? Judah and Benjamin (today the Jews). Coincidence? You decide...

Everlasting in God's word means everlasting :)
 
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Jason's gotta be the smartest one here.

He obviously started this for a giggle.
"How many posts can I generate if I put up some utterly meaningless puerile drivel ?!

He's laughing himself silly because so far this is 75.

It's sorta pathetic but we've all fallen for it.

Good one, Jason !!! :D:);):rolleyes:
 
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Jason's gotta be the smartest one here.

He obviously started this for a giggle.
"How many posts can I generate if I put up some utterly meaningless puerile drivel ?!

He's laughing himself silly because so far this is 75.

It's sorta pathetic but we've all fallen for it.

Good one, Jason !!! :D:);):rolleyes:
Sure is pulling out all the stops for a mere gag thread.
 
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I said on the surface it appears that way. And again have you responded to the people that were talking about it or have you spent your time on your soap box complaining about being mocked?
If I find people are insulting back, many times I will just ignore them and tune them out like switching channels on a radio station. But for your information, it is not wrong for me to stand up and point out their wrong behavior. Not that I am expecting someone to change overnight mind you. Also, I want to let others know here that I have respect for myself in the fact that I will not tolerate the way they treat me in such a way. God's people are supposed to speak full of grace seasoned with salt. Most here are not doing that.
 
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Jason's gotta be the smartest one here.

He obviously started this for a giggle.
"How many posts can I generate if I put up some utterly meaningless puerile drivel ?!

He's laughing himself silly because so far this is 75.

It's sorta pathetic but we've all fallen for it.

Good one, Jason !!! :D:);):rolleyes:
I do not find it funny one bit. Your words are not funny and neither is your false accusation against me. I created the thread to honestly know what other believers knew about this topic. I did not expect people to make this an inquisition about me. They did that all on their own. I want to talk about Samson and how he did not appear to look physically muscular (Which is implied by the various texts in the story of Samson).
 
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If you look at the vow Judah made to his father it was an everlasting vow to protect Benjamin. Moving forward a couple of 100 years and Israel split up into 10 northern tribes and 2 southern tribes. Guess who was the two southern tribes? Judah and Benjamin (today the Jews). Coincidence? You decide...
I do not believe in coincidences. Everything happens for a reason. But thank you for pointing out those facts above. Very cool.

Everlasting in God's word means everlasting :)
Gonna have to disagree with you on this one, friend.

Habakkuk tells us of mountains that were "everlasting" until -- they "were shattered" Hab.3 3:6).

The Aaronic Priesthood was to be an "everlasting" priesthood (Ex.40:15), that is-until-it was superceded by the Melchizedek Priesthood (Heb.7:14-18).

The Law of Moses was to be an "everlasting covenant" (Lev.24:8) yet we read in the New Covenant the first was "done away" and "abolished" (2 Cor. 3:11,13), and God "made the first old" (Hebrews 8:13).