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The answer to the question above is, NO. The thing that free will questions is ,the sovereignty of God. God's will is sovereign over man's will. Man can not change the sov. will of God. King Nebuchadnezzer had to become dumb to learn that God rules heaven and earth, the free will baptist and others, have never learned it yet. they reject the God if the Bible for their weak pathetic god of their making. Abiding, Who in here is presenting vain philosophy? who is "Op"?
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Nebachadnezzar proved free will. God had to put road blocks in his way to get him to do what he wanted. He could have easily just "forced him" But he did not.
God does not remove free will, he works through it. Hi omniscience (knowledge of future events, or how people will act) helps him to put people in place he KNOWS will chose freely to do his will.
God does not remove free will, he works through it. Hi omniscience (knowledge of future events, or how people will act) helps him to put people in place he KNOWS will chose freely to do his will.
God's righteousness has always been imputed in both the OT and the NT. Faith has always been the vehicle through which God imputes His righteousness.
A proper understanding of the fall of mankind in the garden is essential to understanding man's relationship to God as his creator.
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Roger
A proper understanding of the fall of mankind in the garden is essential to understanding man's relationship to God as his creator.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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lol You put me to sleep 
Church this morning...
The interpretation of James 2:4 is still not pertaining to works for salvation. Not sure if we are still beating heads about that. It is true that many are not confident in their salvation, and I believe it's a failure to understand that salvation is a promise that is not fulfilled by anything that we do as humans. If, with that understanding, a person still doubts their salvation, they are doubting God and needs to deal with that issue... not because they might not be saved, but because they are too self-centered. Not by works of righteousness that we have done, but because of his mercy we are saved.
Church this morning...The interpretation of James 2:4 is still not pertaining to works for salvation. Not sure if we are still beating heads about that.
It is true that many are not confident in their salvation, and I believe it's a failure to understand that salvation is a promise that is not fulfilled by anything that we do as humans. If, with that understanding, a person still doubts their salvation, they are doubting God and needs to deal with that issue... not because they might not be saved, but because they are too self-centered. Not by works of righteousness that we have done, but because of his mercy we are saved.
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God's righteousness is what creates right and wrong (hang in there before gasping). Without the law there is no consequence for sin... and salvation would be unnecessary (Rom. 5:13) Regardless of what time a person is born they are responsible, because God requires justification, for their actions. We do not have free will of any kind before salvation because we are in bondage to sin. Through the purchase of Christ's redemption we are purchased from that sin and commanded unto good works... to follow the steps that God FOREORDAINTED for us to follow.
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I know it's summer and all but sometimes you have to take the glasses off, then you can see the light.
Dispensationalism at it's root teaches two gospels. It's hard to remain a dispy and not create two gospels whether explicitly or by implication. Free will teaches two saviors, because it takes you and Jesus to save yourself.
Dispensationalism at it's root teaches two gospels. It's hard to remain a dispy and not create two gospels whether explicitly or by implication. Free will teaches two saviors, because it takes you and Jesus to save yourself.
The consequence of sin was before the law. God told Adam in the garden that if he ate of the forbidden fruit he would die. Sin is the cause of death. First spiritual death and eventually physical death.
The entrance of the law made sin personal. The law says thou shalt not to every man who hears it. Even Gentiles who were without the law still knew it was wrong to murder, steal and commit other lewd acts.
When we become saved by grace through faith we are Gods workmanship unto good works. Our works are good because of our position in Christ. We are adopted sons so we can now please our Father. When we are the children of hell we can do no good works even if they are the same works a believer does.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The entrance of the law made sin personal. The law says thou shalt not to every man who hears it. Even Gentiles who were without the law still knew it was wrong to murder, steal and commit other lewd acts.
When we become saved by grace through faith we are Gods workmanship unto good works. Our works are good because of our position in Christ. We are adopted sons so we can now please our Father. When we are the children of hell we can do no good works even if they are the same works a believer does.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
This is difficult to respond to this in a kind manner. Dispensationalism teaches only that there is a passage of time. God has prophecied events that are future when given but come to present with the passage of time. The world was promised a Savior. the prophecy came by way of Israel. Israel still looks for her Savior. Is there any honor or virtue in continuing to wait for that which has already come to pass? Dispensations are not the creation of man but are there to be recognized by man. Dispensations are helpful in our understanding of what God has done and what God is doing.
Free will was given to man at his creation. God made man in His likeness and image. Man's will must be submitted to God through love if man is to glorify God. If man was compelled to submit to God without free will God would not receive the glory that is due Him. God created man not a robot.
Being against dispensations is like being against breakfast, lunch and dinner time. Perhaps the anti-dispensationists only eat pulse at every meal.
Those against free will truly do not understand the sovereignty of God.
The bible never says that resistance is futile you will be assimilated. It says whosoever will may come.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Free will was given to man at his creation. God made man in His likeness and image. Man's will must be submitted to God through love if man is to glorify God. If man was compelled to submit to God without free will God would not receive the glory that is due Him. God created man not a robot.
Being against dispensations is like being against breakfast, lunch and dinner time. Perhaps the anti-dispensationists only eat pulse at every meal.
Those against free will truly do not understand the sovereignty of God.
The bible never says that resistance is futile you will be assimilated. It says whosoever will may come.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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In a manner of speaking they actually do teach two gospels and two saviors. Dispensationalism teaches that in the Old Testament sacrifices were required for salvation and the New testament teaches grace alone without works is required for salvation. Free-will salvation requires that God's death and resurrection may be required to justify, but we actively have to ACCEPT that He was able to save and does... hence two saviors (God and self).
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The original meaning and the evolved meaning of doctrines are two different things... but one should base their stance on an ideology based on original intent. Examples would be Halloween, Islam, and Dispensationalism. The creation of Dispensationalism in the church was an attempt to explain why we no longer need to sacrifice and follow many Old Testament laws. Today many dispensationalists believe is what is dubbed 4 and 9/10's Calvinism. The original dispensationalists believed as stated as above... that God was not able to complete the salvation of a man without that man's permission.
Simply not true. You have not grasped what God has taught. The Jews to this day have not grasped this either.
I can say without reservation that God does not save any soul against its will. It is wholly false to conclude that a man who bows his head and receives Christ is somehow contributing to Christ's work as Savior. Jesus taught that He submitted His will to His Father's will.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
I can say without reservation that God does not save any soul against its will. It is wholly false to conclude that a man who bows his head and receives Christ is somehow contributing to Christ's work as Savior. Jesus taught that He submitted His will to His Father's will.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I was refreshing my 5 point Calvinism when it hit me. The fact that believers across the world and throughout history disagreed with each other on salvation but some were still believers is proof that free-will salvation is false and God's sovereignty and election is the glue that holds the church together.