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This is what I posted prompting what now follows.
I have not read one post in this thread that comes close to the truth of what the water baptism represents.
So Please tell me what is gained from water baptism and I will show you from God's Holy Word what this water baptism was.
Water baptism does it save, wash away sin, cleanse you from all unrighteousness? What?
Here is what I have gathered from this thread pertaining to what many here believe about the baptism of John (the water baptism)
Water Baptism, is a type or shadow, of being Washed into the Water of The Word.
"I confess one baptizing for remission of sins...."
Baptism is something we do to publicly declare that we believe that Christ died and rose from the dead. That is what the act of baptism symbolizes . It's also a personal things between you and God and its documenting to Him, by the way He does things, that you are a Christian and you have faith.
I believe Baptism is necessary for the remission of sins,
Baptism is a symbol of what happens within a person. Like circumcision.
is not just as busy work for the church, it actually does something in the spiritual world . . .
baptism doesn't save us ! It is a celebration of life in Christ.
od says be baptized, as one of ways we live for Him.
water baptism represents dying to our sinful ways (the old man) and rising to new life in Christ (sharing in his death and resurrection?)
you need to do it to proclaim your faith in Jesus, to show that you have decided to follow Him for the rest of your life.
Now lets look at what this baptism John preached was about.
Matthew 3:11 (KJV)
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mark 1:4 (KJV)
4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
Luke 3:3 (KJV)
3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;
Acts 13:24 (KJV)
24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
Acts 19:4 (KJV)
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
John baptized with the baptism of repentance.
Telling the people they should believe on Christ Jesus
Repentance for the remission of sins.
Not water baptism for the remission of sins.
Repentance!
I have not read one post in this thread that comes close to the truth of what the water baptism represents.
So Please tell me what is gained from water baptism and I will show you from God's Holy Word what this water baptism was.
Water baptism does it save, wash away sin, cleanse you from all unrighteousness? What?
Here is what I have gathered from this thread pertaining to what many here believe about the baptism of John (the water baptism)
Water Baptism, is a type or shadow, of being Washed into the Water of The Word.
"I confess one baptizing for remission of sins...."
Baptism is something we do to publicly declare that we believe that Christ died and rose from the dead. That is what the act of baptism symbolizes . It's also a personal things between you and God and its documenting to Him, by the way He does things, that you are a Christian and you have faith.
I believe Baptism is necessary for the remission of sins,
Baptism is a symbol of what happens within a person. Like circumcision.
is not just as busy work for the church, it actually does something in the spiritual world . . .
baptism doesn't save us ! It is a celebration of life in Christ.
od says be baptized, as one of ways we live for Him.
water baptism represents dying to our sinful ways (the old man) and rising to new life in Christ (sharing in his death and resurrection?)
you need to do it to proclaim your faith in Jesus, to show that you have decided to follow Him for the rest of your life.
Now lets look at what this baptism John preached was about.
Matthew 3:11 (KJV)
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mark 1:4 (KJV)
4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
Luke 3:3 (KJV)
3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;
Acts 13:24 (KJV)
24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
Acts 19:4 (KJV)
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
John baptized with the baptism of repentance.
Telling the people they should believe on Christ Jesus
Repentance for the remission of sins.
Not water baptism for the remission of sins.
Repentance!
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Matthew 28
The Great Commission
16Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. 17And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted. 18And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
The Great Commission
16Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. 17And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted. 18And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
If you were baptized at an age where you really weren't able to understand and consent to it, you should be baptized again. And if you've been backslidden and rebelling and have turned back to re-dedicate your life to God, I would consider it. It's not like you get 'a new one', but it is a statement of consent and re-dedication on your part.
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Many are not aware that the KJV is more of a "revision," as the Bible translators took advantage of the eariler translations. In fact, "the KJV title page contains a reference to the fact that they 'diligently compared and revised' from former English translations." J.R. Ensey The Book We Call the Bible (pg 128)
If a person wants to believe that the KJV is the most accurate, I would ask, "which revision?" The 1612, 1613, 1616, 1629, or the 1659 where William Kilburne corrected 20,000 errors in six of the editions printed in the 1650's. (Notes from J.R. Ensey).
If a person wants to believe that the KJV is the most accurate, I would ask, "which revision?" The 1612, 1613, 1616, 1629, or the 1659 where William Kilburne corrected 20,000 errors in six of the editions printed in the 1650's. (Notes from J.R. Ensey).
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Hello
Like someone mentioned before, when you were 5 you couldn't have had the wisdom to choose baptism for yourself. God gives us freewill, so that we can choose him. He doesn't force himself on us. Baptism is not something you do that gives you salvation or cleanses your sins. Only Christ can give you that. Baptism is a way of professing your faith in Jesus Christ. It's another way of showing your commitment to Christ. You get baptized because you love the Lord and you want to be obedient to him. I think if you do it a second time it will be a way of growing closer to the Lord. If you choose not to be baptized a second time your relationship with Christ will not suffer, although I highly recommend it. Baptism ministers to you. It's not doing God a favor.
Like someone mentioned before, when you were 5 you couldn't have had the wisdom to choose baptism for yourself. God gives us freewill, so that we can choose him. He doesn't force himself on us. Baptism is not something you do that gives you salvation or cleanses your sins. Only Christ can give you that. Baptism is a way of professing your faith in Jesus Christ. It's another way of showing your commitment to Christ. You get baptized because you love the Lord and you want to be obedient to him. I think if you do it a second time it will be a way of growing closer to the Lord. If you choose not to be baptized a second time your relationship with Christ will not suffer, although I highly recommend it. Baptism ministers to you. It's not doing God a favor.
no, baptism doesn't save us (the criminal on the cross beside Jesus was also saved because he believed), but you need to do it to proclaim your faith in Jesus, to show that you have decided to follow Him for the rest of your life.
you mentioned that you've been baptized when you were 5.. I actually think that you probably have to be baptized again unless you, personally, did know what you were doing at that time.
God bless you
you mentioned that you've been baptized when you were 5.. I actually think that you probably have to be baptized again unless you, personally, did know what you were doing at that time.
God bless you
Jesus baptized the Thiev on the Cross!
How unbaptized person to step on Heavens?
Greetings!
Hello
Like someone mentioned before, when you were 5 you couldn't have had the wisdom to choose baptism for yourself. God gives us freewill, so that we can choose him. He doesn't force himself on us. Baptism is not something you do that gives you salvation or cleanses your sins. Only Christ can give you that. Baptism is a way of professing your faith in Jesus Christ. It's another way of showing your commitment to Christ. You get baptized because you love the Lord and you want to be obedient to him. I think if you do it a second time it will be a way of growing closer to the Lord. If you choose not to be baptized a second time your relationship with Christ will not suffer, although I highly recommend it. Baptism ministers to you. It's not doing God a favor.
Like someone mentioned before, when you were 5 you couldn't have had the wisdom to choose baptism for yourself. God gives us freewill, so that we can choose him. He doesn't force himself on us. Baptism is not something you do that gives you salvation or cleanses your sins. Only Christ can give you that. Baptism is a way of professing your faith in Jesus Christ. It's another way of showing your commitment to Christ. You get baptized because you love the Lord and you want to be obedient to him. I think if you do it a second time it will be a way of growing closer to the Lord. If you choose not to be baptized a second time your relationship with Christ will not suffer, although I highly recommend it. Baptism ministers to you. It's not doing God a favor.
That is one of his strongest orders.What do u think,when someone die unbaptized,can he enter to Heavens?
Friends,don't make mistakes and don't play with this!Without Baptism,u won't enter to Heavens,even u were best possible on earth.
Just someone not to take my words out of context,even if u r baptized u wont enter to Heavens if u didn't follow Bible and Holy Church.
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Geometar....baptism is commanded. and it is not to be separated from the command to repent and believe....
but some people do not have time or opportunity to be baptised before their deaths. many people!
to say no one will enter heaven without baptism is extremism, and not biblical.
the thief on the cross is our proof and is for our comfort.
if someone despises baptism; or takes it lightly; never gets around to it; or claims some other kind of baptism...that's cause for serious concern.
please don't upset people who have loved ones who were saved by grace yet didn't have the opportunity to be baptised.
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but some people do not have time or opportunity to be baptised before their deaths. many people!
to say no one will enter heaven without baptism is extremism, and not biblical.
the thief on the cross is our proof and is for our comfort.
if someone despises baptism; or takes it lightly; never gets around to it; or claims some other kind of baptism...that's cause for serious concern.
please don't upset people who have loved ones who were saved by grace yet didn't have the opportunity to be baptised.
zone.