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Perfect! To not be under Law means the Law has no claim on your life...
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Breaking said Law brings the death penalty. Grace is the fact that Christ took the penalty for you onto Himself...
Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Breaking said Law brings the death penalty. Grace is the fact that Christ took the penalty for you onto Himself...
Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
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beautifully and lovingly written, Ps.6819.
by your 'list' we see that obedience is your top priorty in serving and loving
our Father and neighbor.
abiding in Christ's love just goes hand-in-hand with good works which brings
us into walking in the Spirit.
this shows us just where we truly stand in our walk for Christ and where our
loyalty lies.
walking as He walked does set us apart from the world, and our expression
of 'goodness' towards others does define who we are and Who we serve.
for us, we desire to do as Paul did and abide by the spoken Word -
'for I had not know lust, except the Law had said, Thou shalt not covet'.
beautifully and lovingly written, Ps.6819.
by your 'list' we see that obedience is your top priorty in serving and loving
our Father and neighbor.
abiding in Christ's love just goes hand-in-hand with good works which brings
us into walking in the Spirit.
this shows us just where we truly stand in our walk for Christ and where our
loyalty lies.
walking as He walked does set us apart from the world, and our expression
of 'goodness' towards others does define who we are and Who we serve.
for us, we desire to do as Paul did and abide by the spoken Word -
'for I had not know lust, except the Law had said, Thou shalt not covet'.
Above you posted "Until heaven and earth pass, not one jot or tittle will pass"
You left on the last part that one jot or tittle will pass until all be fulfilled. All was fulfilled so it has ceased.
Again, Matthew said one jot or tittle shall not pass till all be fulfilled. So the jot and tittle last till they are fulfilled (which they were) and do not last till heaven and earth pass away that you claim.
Matthew is saying the same thing as Luke that it would be easier for haven and earth to change than for the OT law failing to fulfill its purpose.
--no one claiming the OT law is still in effect is keeping it
--no one claiming the OT law is addressing the contradictions that would exist
--no one claiming the OT law still exists is dealing with the sinfulness in trying to keep it.
You left on the last part that one jot or tittle will pass until all be fulfilled. All was fulfilled so it has ceased.
Again, Matthew said one jot or tittle shall not pass till all be fulfilled. So the jot and tittle last till they are fulfilled (which they were) and do not last till heaven and earth pass away that you claim.
Matthew is saying the same thing as Luke that it would be easier for haven and earth to change than for the OT law failing to fulfill its purpose.
--no one claiming the OT law is still in effect is keeping it
--no one claiming the OT law is addressing the contradictions that would exist
--no one claiming the OT law still exists is dealing with the sinfulness in trying to keep it.
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(Correction from last my last post #65)
Above you posted "Until heaven and earth pass, not one jot or tittle will pass"
You left out the last part that one jot or tittle will pass until all be fulfilled. All was fulfilled so it has ceased.
Did Matthew say "not one jot or tittle will pass till all be fulfilled"?
Or did Matthew say "not one jot or tittle will pass till heaven and earth pass"?
Above you posted "Until heaven and earth pass, not one jot or tittle will pass"
You left out the last part that one jot or tittle will pass until all be fulfilled. All was fulfilled so it has ceased.
Did Matthew say "not one jot or tittle will pass till all be fulfilled"?
Or did Matthew say "not one jot or tittle will pass till heaven and earth pass"?
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Romans 3:20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
Romans 4:15 because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.
Romans 5:13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law.
Romans 7:2 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him.
Romans 7:6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
Romans 7:9 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died.
Galatians 3:24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith.
Galatians 4:21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says?
Matthew 5:27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Proverbs 23:7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
Romans 4:15 because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.
Romans 5:13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law.
Romans 7:2 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him.
Romans 7:6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
Romans 7:9 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died.
Galatians 3:24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith.
Galatians 4:21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says?
Matthew 5:27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Proverbs 23:7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
I have read and studied Ezekiel's book and believe it. He covered the captivity of Israel.
Skipping over a lot of it he came to the final regathering of Israel (happening now).
Israel restored, temple built, Israel awaits Messiah (Second Advent of Jesus)
Armageddon happens.
Jesus (Prince) sets up reign.
Former sacrifices, all duties of priesthood and Levites resume in presence of Jesus.
I realize it is objectionable to many Christians that have not read the Bible, certainly never studied it thoroughly.
All will be done not because of the need to deal with sin, but that the world will know exactly why such things
were given by God to do, and what Jesus did to fulfill all. It will be an eternal memorial in the presence of Jesus,
High Priest forever. Jesus has already performed that duty briefly on earth right after rising from the tomb. His blood
was shed on the cross, the Lamb died, then the Lamb lived again and immediately ascended to the Father with his
own blood, formerly done by the earthly High Priest taking the sacrificial blood into the innermost sanctuary containing the Ark of the Covenant. That's why when Jesus encountered Mary outside the tomb he told her not to touch him (Jn 20:17). That was a requirement of the earthly High Priest to remain undefiled by the slightest touch while between the altar and the innermost Most Holy Place. Instead of taking his blood to Herod's Temple, he took it to the original Temple of God built by God in Heaven.
It took Jesus about half a day to perform it, returning to allow people to touch him.
I know chapters 43-48 which describe what is coming have not happened yet. Most Bible scholars believe that.
They will happen after the tribulation, and involve the regathered Jews in Israel that remain alive through it.
But for now the spiritual eyes of the Jews remain blinded to Jesus. Meanwhile they are preparing for rebuilding of the Temple,
have all the Temple artifacts ready, are training the priesthood, preparing the red heifer, spending money right and left for it.
It is wisdom to remain friends with Israel. You just have to love all of it to understand it. Study much more, JGIG!
Skipping over a lot of it he came to the final regathering of Israel (happening now).
Israel restored, temple built, Israel awaits Messiah (Second Advent of Jesus)
Armageddon happens.
Jesus (Prince) sets up reign.
Former sacrifices, all duties of priesthood and Levites resume in presence of Jesus.
I realize it is objectionable to many Christians that have not read the Bible, certainly never studied it thoroughly.
All will be done not because of the need to deal with sin, but that the world will know exactly why such things
were given by God to do, and what Jesus did to fulfill all. It will be an eternal memorial in the presence of Jesus,
High Priest forever. Jesus has already performed that duty briefly on earth right after rising from the tomb. His blood
was shed on the cross, the Lamb died, then the Lamb lived again and immediately ascended to the Father with his
own blood, formerly done by the earthly High Priest taking the sacrificial blood into the innermost sanctuary containing the Ark of the Covenant. That's why when Jesus encountered Mary outside the tomb he told her not to touch him (Jn 20:17). That was a requirement of the earthly High Priest to remain undefiled by the slightest touch while between the altar and the innermost Most Holy Place. Instead of taking his blood to Herod's Temple, he took it to the original Temple of God built by God in Heaven.
It took Jesus about half a day to perform it, returning to allow people to touch him.
I know chapters 43-48 which describe what is coming have not happened yet. Most Bible scholars believe that.
They will happen after the tribulation, and involve the regathered Jews in Israel that remain alive through it.
But for now the spiritual eyes of the Jews remain blinded to Jesus. Meanwhile they are preparing for rebuilding of the Temple,
have all the Temple artifacts ready, are training the priesthood, preparing the red heifer, spending money right and left for it.
It is wisdom to remain friends with Israel. You just have to love all of it to understand it. Study much more, JGIG!
Please enlighten me, when was this fulfilled?
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Looks like you and I both missed it. Where's that leave us?
Well, that is an interesting interpretation and that is exactly what it is. The scripture plainly says that not a jot or tittle will pass from the Law until heaven and earth pass away...
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Now, I saw the moon last night and also saw Orion. Apparently the heaven hasn't passed away and there was snow on the earth this morning where I live. I am assuming the earth is still under that snow. Which leads me to certain conclusions about your grasp on reality.
So this is no longer in effect?
Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Glad that you and I are not neighbors. Actually, I am REAL glad...
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Name 'em.
Show us the scriptures that say not killing is sinfulness, not committing adultery is sinfulness, not lying is sinfulness, and it goes on and on.
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Looks like you and I both missed it. Where's that leave us?
Well, that is an interesting interpretation and that is exactly what it is. The scripture plainly says that not a jot or tittle will pass from the Law until heaven and earth pass away...
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Now, I saw the moon last night and also saw Orion. Apparently the heaven hasn't passed away and there was snow on the earth this morning where I live. I am assuming the earth is still under that snow. Which leads me to certain conclusions about your grasp on reality.
So this is no longer in effect?
Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Glad that you and I are not neighbors. Actually, I am REAL glad...
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Name 'em.
Show us the scriptures that say not killing is sinfulness, not committing adultery is sinfulness, not lying is sinfulness, and it goes on and on.
When was this fulfilled?
Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
Rev 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
Rev 19:3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
Rev 19:4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
Rev 19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
Rev 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
And I suppose that this is fulfilled?
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
I think there is something else around here that is full of it.
Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
Rev 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
Rev 19:3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
Rev 19:4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
Rev 19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
Rev 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
And I suppose that this is fulfilled?
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
I think there is something else around here that is full of it.
This happened in AD70 when the Roman army destroyed Jerusalem.
Matthew NEVER said heaven and earth must pass away before every jot and tittle would pass, that idea is being ADDED to what Matthew actually said. Matthew is using the stability of heaven and earth showing the impossibility of heaven and earth passing away before the law would be fulfilled.
No, but this NT verse is in effect:
Rom 13:9 "For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
The OT 10 commandments ended but 9 of the 10 were carried over to the NT.
Already mentioned one. Is the blood of Christ or the blood of bulls and goats offered for your sins?
Again, Rom 13:9. Murder and adultery are wrong NOT because the OT says they are wrong, but are sinful for Christ's NT says they are sin.
Matthew NEVER said heaven and earth must pass away before every jot and tittle would pass, that idea is being ADDED to what Matthew actually said. Matthew is using the stability of heaven and earth showing the impossibility of heaven and earth passing away before the law would be fulfilled.
No, but this NT verse is in effect:
Rom 13:9 "For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
The OT 10 commandments ended but 9 of the 10 were carried over to the NT.
Already mentioned one. Is the blood of Christ or the blood of bulls and goats offered for your sins?
Again, Rom 13:9. Murder and adultery are wrong NOT because the OT says they are wrong, but are sinful for Christ's NT says they are sin.
I asked the following but did not get an answer:
Did Matthew say "not one jot or tittle will pass till all be fulfilled"?
Or did Matthew say "not one jot or tittle will pass till heaven and earth pass"?
Below is a link to OT fulfillments made by Christ:
http://www.westarkchurchofchrist.org/library/messiah.htm
[SIZE=+2]Seed of a Woman[/SIZE]Prophecy: "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel." (Genesis 3:15)
Fulfillment: "But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law. (Galatians 4:4)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Descendant of Abraham[/SIZE]Prophecy: "I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you; and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed." (Genesis 12:3)
Fulfillment: The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham, (Matthew 1:1)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Descendant of Isaac[/SIZE]Prophecy: Then God said: "No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him." (Genesis 17:19)
Fulfillment: Abraham begot Isaac, Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob begot Judah and his brothers, (Matthew 1:2)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Descendant of Jacob[/SIZE]Prophecy: "I shall see Him, but not now; I shall behold Him, but He is not near. When a King shall arise from the house of Jacob, and the Messiah be anointed from the house of Israel; He shall slay the princes of Moab, and rule over all the children of men." (Numbers 24:17)
Fulfillment: the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, (Luke 3:34)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]From the Tribe of Judah[/SIZE]Prophecy: The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh comes; and to Him shall be the obedience of the people. (Genesis 49:10.)
Fulfillment: the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, (Luke 3:33)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Heir to the Throne of David[/SIZE]Prophecy: Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice From that time forward, even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. (Isaiah 9:7)
Fulfillment: "He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David." (Luke 1:32)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Anointed[/SIZE]Prophecy: Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions. (Psalms 45:6-7)
Fulfillment: "how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him." (Acts 10:38)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Eternal[/SIZE]Prophecy: Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You will endure; yes, they will all grow old like a garment; like a cloak You will change them, and they will be changed. But You are the same, and Your years will have no end. (Psalms 102:25-27)
Fulfillment: "You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; like a cloak You will fold them up, and they will be changed. But You are the same, and Your years will not fail." (Hebrews 1:10-12)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Time of His Birth[/SIZE]Prophecy: "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times." (Daniel 9:25)
Fulfillment: And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria. So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city. (Luke 2:1-3)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]To Be Born of a Virgin[/SIZE]Prophecy: "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel." (Isaiah 7:14)
Fulfillment: Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. (Matthew 1:18)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Born in Bethlehem[/SIZE]Prophecy: "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall come forth to Me the One to be Ruler in Israel, whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting." (Micah 5:2)
Fulfillment: Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem. (Matthew 2:1)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Children Slaughtered[/SIZE]Prophecy: Thus says the LORD: "A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation and bitter weeping, Rachel weeping for her children, refusing to be comforted for her children, because they are no more." (Jeremiah 31:15)
Fulfillment: Then Herod, when he saw that he was deceived by the wise men, was exceedingly angry; and he sent forth and put to death all the male children who were in Bethlehem and in all its districts, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the wise men. (Matthew 2:16)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Into Egypt[/SIZE]Prophecy: "When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son." (Hosea 11:1)
Fulfillment: When he arose, he took the young Child and His mother by night and departed for Egypt, and was there until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, "Out of Egypt I called My Son." (Matthew 2:14-15)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]His Way Prepared[/SIZE]Prophecy: The voice of one crying in the wilderness: "Prepare the way of the LORD; make straight in the desert a highway for our God. (Isaiah 40:3)
Fulfillment: "He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, 'to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,' and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord." (Luke 1:17)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Preceded by a Herald[/SIZE]Prophecy: "Behold, I send My messenger, and he will prepare the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple, even the Messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight. Behold, He is coming," says the LORD of hosts. (Malachi 3:1)
Fulfillment: "This is he of whom it is written: 'Behold, I send My messenger before Your face, who will prepare Your way before You.' For I say to you, among those born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he." (Luke 7:27-28)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Preceded by Elijah[/SIZE]Prophecy: Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD. (Malachi 4:5)
Fulfillment: "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come." (Matthew 11:13-14)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]The Son of God[/SIZE]Prophecy: "I will declare the decree: The LORD has said to Me, 'You are My Son, today I have begotten You." (Psalms 2:7)
Fulfillment: While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!" (Matthew 17:5)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Ministry in Galilee[/SIZE]Prophecy: Nevertheless the gloom will not be upon her who is distressed, as when at first He lightly esteemed the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward more heavily oppressed her, by the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan, in Galilee of the Gentiles. The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light; those who dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, upon them a light has shined. (Isaiah 9:1-2)
Fulfillment: And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people.(Matthew 4:23)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Speaking in Parables[/SIZE]Prophecy: I will open my mouth in a parable; I will utter dark sayings of old. (Psalms 78:2)
Fulfillment: All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them. (Matthew 13:34)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]The Prophet[/SIZE]Prophecy: "The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear." (Deuteronomy 18:15)
Fulfillment: "and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began. For Moses truly said to the fathers, 'The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 'And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.'" (Acts 3:20-23)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Healer of the Brokenhearted[/SIZE]Prophecy: "The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon Me, because the LORD has anointed Me to preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound;" (Isaiah 61:1)
Fulfillment: "The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, because He has anointed Me to preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed;" (Luke 4:18)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Rejected by Men[/SIZE]Prophecy: He is despised and rejected by men, a Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. (Isaiah 53:3)
Fulfillment: He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. (John 1:11)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]A Priest[/SIZE]Prophecy: The LORD has sworn and will not relent, "You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek." (Psalms 110:4)
Fulfillment: So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him: "You are My Son, today I have begotten You." As He also says in another place: "You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek." (Hebrews 5:5-6)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Triumphal Entry[/SIZE]Prophecy: "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, lowly and riding on a donkey, a colt, the foal of a donkey." (Zechariah 9:9)
Fulfillment: They brought the donkey and the colt, laid their clothes on them, and set Him on them. And a very great multitude spread their clothes on the road; others cut down branches from the trees and spread them on the road. Then the multitudes who went before and those who followed cried out, saying: "Hosanna to the Son of David! 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!' Hosanna in the highest!" And when He had come into Jerusalem, all the city was moved, saying, "Who is this?" So the multitudes said, "This is Jesus, the Prophet from Nazareth of Galilee."(Matthew 21:7-11)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Adored by Children[/SIZE]Prophecy: Out of the mouth of babes and nursing infants You have ordained strength, because of Your enemies, that You may silence the enemy and the avenger. (Psalms 8:2)
Fulfillment: But when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that He did, and the children crying out in the temple and saying, "Hosanna to the Son of David!" they were indignant.(Matthew 21:15)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Not Believed[/SIZE]Prophecy: Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? (Isaiah 53:1)
Fulfillment: But although He had done so many signs before them, they did not believe in Him. (John 12:37)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Betrayed by Friend[/SIZE]Prophecy: Even my own familiar friend in whom I trusted, who ate my bread, has lifted up his heel against me. (Psalms 41:9)
Fulfillment: And while He was still speaking, behold, a multitude; and he who was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them and drew near to Jesus to kiss Him. But Jesus said to him, "Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?" (Luke 22:47-48)
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Did Matthew say "not one jot or tittle will pass till all be fulfilled"?
Or did Matthew say "not one jot or tittle will pass till heaven and earth pass"?
Below is a link to OT fulfillments made by Christ:
http://www.westarkchurchofchrist.org/library/messiah.htm
[SIZE=+2]Seed of a Woman[/SIZE]Prophecy: "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel." (Genesis 3:15)
Fulfillment: "But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law. (Galatians 4:4)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Descendant of Abraham[/SIZE]Prophecy: "I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you; and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed." (Genesis 12:3)
Fulfillment: The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham, (Matthew 1:1)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Descendant of Isaac[/SIZE]Prophecy: Then God said: "No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him." (Genesis 17:19)
Fulfillment: Abraham begot Isaac, Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob begot Judah and his brothers, (Matthew 1:2)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Descendant of Jacob[/SIZE]Prophecy: "I shall see Him, but not now; I shall behold Him, but He is not near. When a King shall arise from the house of Jacob, and the Messiah be anointed from the house of Israel; He shall slay the princes of Moab, and rule over all the children of men." (Numbers 24:17)
Fulfillment: the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, (Luke 3:34)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]From the Tribe of Judah[/SIZE]Prophecy: The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh comes; and to Him shall be the obedience of the people. (Genesis 49:10.)
Fulfillment: the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, (Luke 3:33)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Heir to the Throne of David[/SIZE]Prophecy: Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice From that time forward, even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. (Isaiah 9:7)
Fulfillment: "He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David." (Luke 1:32)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Anointed[/SIZE]Prophecy: Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions. (Psalms 45:6-7)
Fulfillment: "how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him." (Acts 10:38)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Eternal[/SIZE]Prophecy: Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You will endure; yes, they will all grow old like a garment; like a cloak You will change them, and they will be changed. But You are the same, and Your years will have no end. (Psalms 102:25-27)
Fulfillment: "You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; like a cloak You will fold them up, and they will be changed. But You are the same, and Your years will not fail." (Hebrews 1:10-12)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Time of His Birth[/SIZE]Prophecy: "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times." (Daniel 9:25)
Fulfillment: And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria. So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city. (Luke 2:1-3)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]To Be Born of a Virgin[/SIZE]Prophecy: "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel." (Isaiah 7:14)
Fulfillment: Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. (Matthew 1:18)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Born in Bethlehem[/SIZE]Prophecy: "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall come forth to Me the One to be Ruler in Israel, whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting." (Micah 5:2)
Fulfillment: Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem. (Matthew 2:1)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Children Slaughtered[/SIZE]Prophecy: Thus says the LORD: "A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation and bitter weeping, Rachel weeping for her children, refusing to be comforted for her children, because they are no more." (Jeremiah 31:15)
Fulfillment: Then Herod, when he saw that he was deceived by the wise men, was exceedingly angry; and he sent forth and put to death all the male children who were in Bethlehem and in all its districts, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the wise men. (Matthew 2:16)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Into Egypt[/SIZE]Prophecy: "When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son." (Hosea 11:1)
Fulfillment: When he arose, he took the young Child and His mother by night and departed for Egypt, and was there until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, "Out of Egypt I called My Son." (Matthew 2:14-15)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]His Way Prepared[/SIZE]Prophecy: The voice of one crying in the wilderness: "Prepare the way of the LORD; make straight in the desert a highway for our God. (Isaiah 40:3)
Fulfillment: "He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, 'to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,' and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord." (Luke 1:17)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Preceded by a Herald[/SIZE]Prophecy: "Behold, I send My messenger, and he will prepare the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple, even the Messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight. Behold, He is coming," says the LORD of hosts. (Malachi 3:1)
Fulfillment: "This is he of whom it is written: 'Behold, I send My messenger before Your face, who will prepare Your way before You.' For I say to you, among those born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he." (Luke 7:27-28)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Preceded by Elijah[/SIZE]Prophecy: Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD. (Malachi 4:5)
Fulfillment: "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come." (Matthew 11:13-14)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]The Son of God[/SIZE]Prophecy: "I will declare the decree: The LORD has said to Me, 'You are My Son, today I have begotten You." (Psalms 2:7)
Fulfillment: While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!" (Matthew 17:5)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Ministry in Galilee[/SIZE]Prophecy: Nevertheless the gloom will not be upon her who is distressed, as when at first He lightly esteemed the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward more heavily oppressed her, by the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan, in Galilee of the Gentiles. The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light; those who dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, upon them a light has shined. (Isaiah 9:1-2)
Fulfillment: And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people.(Matthew 4:23)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Speaking in Parables[/SIZE]Prophecy: I will open my mouth in a parable; I will utter dark sayings of old. (Psalms 78:2)
Fulfillment: All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them. (Matthew 13:34)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]The Prophet[/SIZE]Prophecy: "The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear." (Deuteronomy 18:15)
Fulfillment: "and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began. For Moses truly said to the fathers, 'The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 'And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.'" (Acts 3:20-23)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Healer of the Brokenhearted[/SIZE]Prophecy: "The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon Me, because the LORD has anointed Me to preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound;" (Isaiah 61:1)
Fulfillment: "The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, because He has anointed Me to preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed;" (Luke 4:18)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Rejected by Men[/SIZE]Prophecy: He is despised and rejected by men, a Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. (Isaiah 53:3)
Fulfillment: He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. (John 1:11)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]A Priest[/SIZE]Prophecy: The LORD has sworn and will not relent, "You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek." (Psalms 110:4)
Fulfillment: So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him: "You are My Son, today I have begotten You." As He also says in another place: "You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek." (Hebrews 5:5-6)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Triumphal Entry[/SIZE]Prophecy: "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, lowly and riding on a donkey, a colt, the foal of a donkey." (Zechariah 9:9)
Fulfillment: They brought the donkey and the colt, laid their clothes on them, and set Him on them. And a very great multitude spread their clothes on the road; others cut down branches from the trees and spread them on the road. Then the multitudes who went before and those who followed cried out, saying: "Hosanna to the Son of David! 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!' Hosanna in the highest!" And when He had come into Jerusalem, all the city was moved, saying, "Who is this?" So the multitudes said, "This is Jesus, the Prophet from Nazareth of Galilee."(Matthew 21:7-11)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Adored by Children[/SIZE]Prophecy: Out of the mouth of babes and nursing infants You have ordained strength, because of Your enemies, that You may silence the enemy and the avenger. (Psalms 8:2)
Fulfillment: But when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that He did, and the children crying out in the temple and saying, "Hosanna to the Son of David!" they were indignant.(Matthew 21:15)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Not Believed[/SIZE]Prophecy: Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? (Isaiah 53:1)
Fulfillment: But although He had done so many signs before them, they did not believe in Him. (John 12:37)
[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]Betrayed by Friend[/SIZE]Prophecy: Even my own familiar friend in whom I trusted, who ate my bread, has lifted up his heel against me. (Psalms 41:9)
Fulfillment: And while He was still speaking, behold, a multitude; and he who was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them and drew near to Jesus to kiss Him. But Jesus said to him, "Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?" (Luke 22:47-48)
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I don't know where people get the notion that Christ did away with the law...Christ fulfilled the law...and by doing so he made a way for those who abide in him to be free from the condemnation of the law....not from doing what the law says...
Christ is our passover....
Exodus 12:23
For the Lord will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the Lord will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.
Christ is our passover....
Exodus 12:23
For the Lord will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the Lord will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.
Galatians 6:1-4King James Version (KJV)
6 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
6 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
Paul put it this way: 2 Corinthians 3:7-11 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[SUP]8 [/SUP] How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
The old was for Israel, Jews, not given to Gentiles. It left the Gentiles strangers to the Commonwealth of Israel in every way, except to be a guest or servant. The law had had glory, but the New is more glorious. The New is for all people, all nations. That's just one good reason for abolishing the law, replaced by the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Abolishment wasn't "annihilation". The idea is more like declaration ending slavery in America. It was abolished. Yet, many forms of slavery still exist, and the idea of what was abolished is alive, though not accepted by law and concensus. But the concept can't be eradicated, as in "non existent".
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[SUP]8 [/SUP] How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
The old was for Israel, Jews, not given to Gentiles. It left the Gentiles strangers to the Commonwealth of Israel in every way, except to be a guest or servant. The law had had glory, but the New is more glorious. The New is for all people, all nations. That's just one good reason for abolishing the law, replaced by the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Abolishment wasn't "annihilation". The idea is more like declaration ending slavery in America. It was abolished. Yet, many forms of slavery still exist, and the idea of what was abolished is alive, though not accepted by law and concensus. But the concept can't be eradicated, as in "non existent".
God concluded all under sin,,,,what is the criteria that God uses to identify sin....??? the only people who will not be condemned by the law is those that are in Christ....that does not mean the law will not come accusing you...that is what it does...and if sin is found in you it means you are not in Christ and the law condemns you....being in Christ removes us from the penalty of the law...but we must fulfil the law of Christ...
Galatians 6:2
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
Galatians 6:2
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
there is no more Jew no more Gentile...God concluded all under sin....it takes the law to tell you what sin is....those who are in Christ are not under the law.....if you are not under the law in Christ ....and you say Christ did away with the law ....then what law are you not under? if he did away with the law then there is no law for us to be not under...and therefore non can be condemned...
Even when we who are in Christ sin, the Scriptures say that God does not count our sins against us:
18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. (from 2 Cor. 5)
That's why we can believe this:
There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. (from Rom. 8)
Because we are dead to the Law:
4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. (from Rom. 7)
No part of the Law has anything to do with those in Christ; we are dead to the Law.
-JGIG