Eat My Flesh Drink My Blood

[psychomom]

Here is another command of the Law of Christ:
But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. (Gal. 5:16-18)

...and more...
If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.
Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.(Gal.5:25-26)



Therefore I, the prisoner of the Lord, implore you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called,
with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love,
being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling;
one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. (Eph. 4:1-6)

that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth. (v. 22-24)


Therefore, laying aside falsehood, SPEAK TRUTH EACH ONE of you WITH HIS NEIGHBOR, for we are members of one another.
BE ANGRY, AND yet DO NOT SIN; do not let the sun go down on your anger,
and do not give the devil an opportunity.
He who steals must steal no longer; but rather he must labor, performing with his own hands what is good, so that he will have something to share with one who has need.
Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.
Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice.
Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you. (v. 25-32)

Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children;
and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma (Eph. 5:1-2)

Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.
Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth. (Col. 3:1-2)

But we request of you, brethren, that you appreciate those who diligently labor among you, and have charge over you in the Lord and give you instruction,
and that you esteem them very highly in love because of their work. Live in peace with one another.
We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone.
See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people.
Rejoice always;
pray without ceasing;
in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.
Do not quench the Spirit;
do not despise prophetic utterances.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good;
abstain from every form of evil. (1 Thes. 5:12-27)

Summed up in the two great 'laws of love', but how gracious of the Lord to give us so much specific instruction, too.
Very hard to quantify, this law of liberty; of Christ.

 

[Red33]

Now we see what he meant, but being in that crowd would we not have considered he meant to literally eat him?

What do you believe Jesus meant when He said to the Jews in the synagogue of Capernaum, and to those who were following Him in (Jn 6, 53,54)...

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

The Jews knew of the passover lamb in (Ex 12) and how the children of Israel prepared it and applied it to their own house. How does what Yeshua said apply to the NT church of believers, who are both Jew and Gentile and members of His body, flesh and bones (Eph 5:30)?

Eph 2:10-18

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (we walk in good works, not the law)
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

The cross represents the flesh and blood of the Lamb. The flesh represents the bread of life, His body that was broken and the shed blood represents the remission of sins and when you put them together, the law is abolished and both Jew and Gentile through this peace are made one through the one new man, reconciled to God in one body having broke down that middle wall of partition and slain the enmity of the law that seperated the Jew from the Gentile.

Tell me what that 'middle wall of partition' is all about that Christ broke down through His body and blood on the cross. What was that enmity that was slain? What had these things to do with the temple and the whole law? Why was the Gentile seperated from having accesss to the rest of the temple, the holies of holies that contained the law?

'For the Church is not Jew and Gentile made into one man, but into one new man: it is not that the Gentile is elevated to the privileges of the Jew, or the Jew depressed to the bankruptcy of the Gentile, or that the old privileges are shared between the two: but God removes the separation by merging both into a new creation altogether new, and incomparably superior.'

'Under the law of Moses only one person could enter the holy of holies once a year into the presence of God Most High. That person was the high priest, of the tribe of Levi. Before he could step into the holy of holies into the light of God's shekinah glory, he had to go through a purifying process, and stipulations were laid out for his manner of dress. His life depended on his keeping every jot and tittle of that law spoken to Moses for that occasion.

Today and 2000 years since Pentecost, those birthed of the Christ Seed have access into the inner sanctuary of the holy of holies, having confidence, may enter into Father's inner sanctum by the "blood of Jesus.'

"Having therefore, brethren, boldness (confidence) to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus..." Heb. 10:19.

Today, the holy of holies is open to those having confidence in their holy undefiled High Priest, Jesus Christ who went in first, opening the way into the holiest of all by His blood, and Spirit.'​

 

[Abiding]

Nice Red ty again

 

[loveme1]

if A person is born again, They would understand what Jesus meant, By knowing that as Jesus said,m it is the spirit who gives life (eternal) the WORDS I SPEAK are SPIRIT, and THEY ARE LIFE. and would never have left him, because he said eat my flesh and drink my blood.

They would understand, that it is their faith that saves them, Not their works. Thus what god gave them is his, and they can neither make it any stronger, or weaker. Or do something which would cause the gift of God to be destroyed (lost)

People who think you can lose salvation by doing something, or not doing salvation believe in a tainted gift, which can be destroyed by our action or inaction. And these are the very people Jesus fought against while he was on earth, because their eyes are on self, and NOT GOD.

Indeed by Faith in Yahshua the Messiah we are saved.

It appears some of us walk in obedience to the 10 Commandments through this Faith, while others do not.

Let us therefor not judge one and other and make threads that imply those that Love and obey their Yahvah God to not have Faith in Yahshua the Messiah.

There was Only one Gift and certainly not tainted.

 

[loveme1]

What do you believe Jesus meant when He said to the Jews in the synagogue of Capernaum, and to those who were following Him in (Jn 6, 53,54)...

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

The Jews knew of the passover lamb in (Ex 12) and how the children of Israel prepared it and applied it to their own house. How does what Yeshua said apply to the NT church of believers, who are both Jew and Gentile and members of His body, flesh and bones (Eph 5:30)?

Eph 2:10-18

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (we walk in good works, not the law)
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

The cross represents the flesh and blood of the Lamb. The flesh represents the bread of life, His body that was broken and the shed blood represents the remission of sins and when you put them together, the law is abolished and both Jew and Gentile through this peace are made one through the one new man, reconciled to God in one body having broke down that middle wall of partition and slain the enmity of the law that seperated the Jew from the Gentile.

Tell me what that 'middle wall of partition' is all about that Christ broke down through His body and blood on the cross. What was that enmity that was slain? What had these things to do with the temple and the whole law? Why was the Gentile seperated from having accesss to the rest of the temple, the holies of holies that contained the law?

'For the Church is not Jew and Gentile made into one man, but into one new man: it is not that the Gentile is elevated to the privileges of the Jew, or the Jew depressed to the bankruptcy of the Gentile, or that the old privileges are shared between the two: but God removes the separation by merging both into a new creation altogether new, and incomparably superior.'

'Under the law of Moses only one person could enter the holy of holies once a year into the presence of God Most High. That person was the high priest, of the tribe of Levi. Before he could step into the holy of holies into the light of God's shekinah glory, he had to go through a purifying process, and stipulations were laid out for his manner of dress. His life depended on his keeping every jot and tittle of that law spoken to Moses for that occasion.

Today and 2000 years since Pentecost, those birthed of the Christ Seed have access into the inner sanctuary of the holy of holies, having confidence, may enter into Father's inner sanctum by the "blood of Jesus.'

"Having therefore, brethren, boldness (confidence) to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus..." Heb. 10:19.

Today, the holy of holies is open to those having confidence in their holy undefiled High Priest, Jesus Christ who went in first, opening the way into the holiest of all by His blood, and Spirit.'​

We were talking of people at that time that did not have the benefit of the knowledge and Spirit that we have now.

Yes, he was the sin offering to Yahvah God for us.

It all came to pass for him to come and be our sin offering to Yahvah God.

 

[Abiding]

Loveme if i ever debate you on scripture it wont
be about your Love and obedience to Yahshua.

I honestly cant see a finer faith than that.
In fact where is the Love without obedience?
And faith which worketh by Love is faith.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Indeed by Faith in Yahshua the Messiah we are saved.

It appears some of us walk in obedience to the 10 Commandments through this Faith, while others do not.

Let us therefor not judge one and other and make threads that imply those that Love and obey their Yahvah God to not have Faith in Yahshua the Messiah.

There was Only one Gift and certainly not tainted.

if we really got to the nitty gritty, None of us would follow his ten, let alone his many other commands in a way which we would be deemed "righteous" enough to earn salvation. For as james said, if we break even the least of the law, we are found guilty of the whole law.

The issue of salvation is not who is more righteous according to the law than the other, for as paul said, we all have sinned and fall short of this righteous requirement, thus we are all condemned. The issue is how can man be restored to a relationship with God, the relationship which died the moment adam and eve sinned against God, and caused the death of all mankind.

If we are focused on sin and the law, our thoughts are not on God and christ, but on self. If our focus is on Christ, our minds are not on the law and sin, and we will be focused on the spirit, thus will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. It is quite simple. yet so hard, as many want to focus on law and not Christ. Which is exactly what satan wants us to do. believe Gods gift is not perfect. thus can be lost. Because it takes our focus off Christ!

 

[loveme1]

Read all of it line up on line.

Hebrews 10

10 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

21 And having an high priest over the house of God;

22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised

24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

32 But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;

33 Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.

34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.

35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.

36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.

38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

 

[psychomom]

It appears some of us walk in obedience to the 10 Commandments through this Faith, while others do not.

Do you
honestly believe this to be so?

 

[loveme1]

if we really got to the nitty gritty, None of us would follow his ten, let alone his many other commands in a way which we would be deemed "righteous" enough to earn salvation. For as james said, if we break even the least of the law, we are found guilty of the whole law.

The issue of salvation is not who is more righteous according to the law than the other, for as paul said, we all have sinned and fall short of this righteous requirement, thus we are all condemned. The issue is how can man be restored to a relationship with God, the relationship which died the moment adam and eve sinned against God, and caused the death of all mankind.

If we are focused on sin and the law, our thoughts are not on God and christ, but on self. If our focus is on Christ, our minds are not on the law and sin, and we will be focused on the spirit, thus will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. It is quite simple. yet so hard, as many want to focus on law and not Christ. Which is exactly what satan wants us to do. believe Gods gift is not perfect. thus can be lost. Because it takes our focus off Christ!

You are right without the Holy Spirit i did not follow the 10 Commandments did not know all of them either.

Never knew he said those that Love him Keep them or anything like that.

I fell on the rock that saved me.

 

[loveme1]

Maybe i'm the one that got forgiven for so much at her Masters feet wanting everyone else to know how wonderful and True and forgiving he is and how deserving he is that we do what he asks of us.

 

[soldierofchrist4ever24]

maybe the Catholic Church says that it is literally His body and blood?

They do its called;
Transubstantiation

In Roman Catholic theology, transubstantiation (in Latin, transsubstantiatio, in Greek μετουσίωσις metousiosis) is the doctrine that, in the Eucharist, the substance of the bread and the wine used in the sacrament is changed into the substance of the Body and the Blood of Jesus, while all that is accessible to the senses (the appearances - species in Latin) remains as before.

~Wikipedia~

Hope this sheds some light on there tradition
in Christ
brother travis

 

[Abiding]

See how cool and helpfull the mods are around here
Travis will there be any tasty treats served up today?

 

[BarlyGurl]

So did I miss It??? I didn't notice anyone mentioning that the "time" of this teaching was just before passover so that in using the "I am the bread..." language he was directly linking himself to the passover meal elements.... a covenant meal. Leading the people with illustrative language....
Brad of live
Lamb of God
Slain for your transgression
blood of my covenant

 

[Stephen63]

Gee,why can't we just accept the fact that to eat his flesh and drink his blood means to accept Him in your heart once and for all?

John 15:4-7 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So did I miss It??? I didn't notice anyone mentioning that the "time" of this teaching was just before passover so that in using the "I am the bread..." language he was directly linking himself to the passover meal elements.... a covenant meal. Leading the people with illustrative language....
Brad of live
Lamb of God
Slain for your transgression
blood of my covenant

why do you think it was just before passover, This was also at the beginning of his ministry, so was almost 3 years before he instituted the last supper. I do not believe anyone at this time, including Peter or the rest, put this in conjunction with the passover or anything else.

The topic was. I fed 5000 yesterday, They came not to hear my words, but to get more food. So Jesus said do not work for food which perishes, but food which will endure forever.

Food you can eat and once you have eaten it, you will never hunger, never thirst, life forever, never die, Have eternal life, and be risen on the last day.

The message was the gospel. The words which he spoke, feed on them, for they will give you eternal life if you believe in the one God sent.

 

[BarlyGurl]

Jesus Feeds the Five Thousand

6 Some time after this, Jesus crossed to the far shore of the Sea of Galilee (that is, the Sea of Tiberias), 2 and a great crowd of people followed him because they saw the signs he had performed by healing the sick. 3 Then Jesus went up on a mountainside and sat down with his disciples. 4 The Jewish Passover Festival was near. 5 When Jesus looked up and saw a great crowd coming toward him, he said to Philip, “Where shall we buy bread for these people to eat?” 6 He asked this only to test him, for he already had in mind what he was going to do. 7 Philip answered him, “It would take more than half a year’s wages[a] to buy enough bread for each one to have a bite!”

Jesus did institute the LAST SUPPER... he did NOT institute the JEWISH PASSOVER... God the Father did... to the Jewish People... in the OT... it was a religious festival in Remembrance of the Old Covenenant. What yo are saying about the feeding is only partly true... I am giving you more truth.

 

[Abiding]

EG! you been shortchanging us?

 

[BarlyGurl]

barlygurl shrugs slightly... looks at ground...

 

[Abiding]

Baby Laughing Hysterically at Ripping Paper (Original) - YouTube

Oh dont do that...just having fun...watch this
itll help any malady.