forgiveness according to the truth

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Psalm 51
1, Show me favor, O Yah, According to Your loving-commitment; According to the greatness of Your compassion, Blot out my transgressions.
2, Wash me completely from my guilt, And cleanse me from my sin.
3, For I know my transgressions, And my sin is ever before me.
4, Against You, You alone, have I sinned, And done evil in Your eyes; That You might be proven right in Your words; Be clear when You judge.
5, See, I was brought forth in crookedness, And in sin my mother conceived me.
6, See, You have desired truth in the inward parts, And in the hidden part You make me know wisdom.
7, Cleanse me with hyssop, and I am clean; Wash me, and I am whiter than snow.
8, Let me hear joy and gladness, Let the bones You have crushed rejoice.
9, Hide Your face from my sins, And blot out all my crookednesses.
10, Create in me a clean heart, O Yah, And renew a steadfast spirit within me.
11, Do not cast me away from Your presence, And do not take Your Set-apart Spirit from me.
12, Restore to me the joy of Your deliverance, And uphold me, Noble Spirit!
13, Let me teach transgressors Your ways, So that sinners turn back to You.
14, Deliver me from blood-guilt, O Yah, Strength of my deliverance, Let my tongue sing aloud of Your righteousness.
15, O יהוה, open my lips, And that my mouth declare Your praise.
16, For You do not desire sacrifice, or I would give it; You do not delight in ascending offering.
17, The sacrifices of Yah are a broken spirit, A heart broken and crushed, O Yah, These You do not despise.
18, Do good in Your good pleasure to Tsiyon; Build the walls of Yerushalayim.
19, Then You would delight in sacrifices of righteousness, In ascending offering and complete ascending offering; Then young bulls would be offered on Your sacrifice-place.
"17, The sacrifices of Yah are a broken spirit, A heart broken and crushed, O Yah, These You do not despise."

perfect example..

Luke 7:36-50 "And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat. 37And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesussat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, 38And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment. 39Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.40And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on. 41There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty. 42And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most? 43Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged. 44And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head. 45Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet. 46My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.

47Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little. 48And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven. 49And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also? 50And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace."


this woman gave an acceptable sacrifice the difference in her and the pharisee was what she did in responce to Jesus
 
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Ok so theres a question if you herd a still voice saying follow me im Jesus.. oh and then theres the invitation to attack..

How do you know when you first hear that voice that its satan or Jesus.. Ive herd it said that satan loves his own too
 
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Forgiveness is the hardest thing we can do.

It is the giving up of pain in our hearts and detaching our right for revenge from the
hurtful act.

Jesus warns us we cannot expect to be forgiven if we ourselves cannot forgive.

It goes deeper, that Gods justice is external to us, and judgement will rightly fall on
unrepentant sinners, but for us personally we need to walk in forgiveness and humbleness.

Our enemies are just like us, and will only find release if they walk in Christ.
We are set free from the power of sin because pain, fear and sorrow no longer bind us into
being defensive and aggressive towards others. Amen and Praise the Lord

"as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us."
Psalm 103:12

For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Col 1:13-14

The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
1 Tim 1:5
The ability to forgive has many variables, including depth of faith and life experience. What's difficult for some is quite easy for others. And the sooner folks realize the forgiver benefits more than the forgiven the better off we'll all be.
 
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Ok so theres a question if you herd a still voice saying follow me im Jesus.. oh and then theres the invitation to attack..

How do you know when you first hear that voice that its satan or Jesus.. Ive herd it said that satan loves his own too
the holy spirit will always remind of Jesus words, because it is His spirit, thats how we Know satan will never agree with Jesus. He is the truth.

john14:25-26 "These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I HAVE SAID UNTO YOU."

John 6:63 "
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU, they are SPIRIT, and they are life."

Hebrews 13:8"
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and for ever."
 
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the holy spirit will always remind of Jesus words, because it is His spirit, thats how we Know satan will never agree with Jesus. He is the truth.

john14:25-26 "These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I HAVE SAID UNTO YOU."

John 6:63 "
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU, they are SPIRIT, and they are life."

Hebrews 13:8"
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and for ever."
Demons will speak truths to get you to sin,, Its easy for a demon to say i follow jesus..especially when he hasnt achieved his goal..
 
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The ability to forgive has many variables, including depth of faith and life experience. What's difficult for some is quite easy for others. And the sooner folks realize the forgiver benefits more than the forgiven the better off we'll all be.

amen. its not always easy to do what is right, but we are offered eternal Life in the presence of God and rewards beyond our ability to even imagine, so even when it rewuires smething that is difficult, it is worth giving all of our heart to.
 
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The way i see this.. is you know someone who is suffering.. has anyone ever realised that maybe God sent them the spirit of stupor to send them slight dotty as so they could no longer remember there state of depression..

So while a few in this thread would say im a nut job.. or a troll what they wouldnt realize because they spewed the first thought that came into there head issssssssss... that maybe the lord sent me a little loopy to lighten my load :rolleyes:
 
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Demons will speak truths to get you to sin,, Its easy for a demon to say i follow jesus..especially when he hasnt achieved his goal..
is there any examople of what a demon would say in the presence of Jesus?

matthew 8:29 "And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? "

demons sudder and quake at even the name of Jesus, His word terrifies them because they understand who He is and His authority. they dont speak truths in any way, they twist truths, and they pluck partial truths that lead away from the Lord, they deny truth cleverly and offer what is false, partial truth yet when it is distorted, it become false

the "still small voice" can be spoken by any spirit there a serial killers who think God told them to kill.....IF they would have accepoted the Word of Jesus Christ, they would have known that to even consider killing innocent people is not from God. the written word is there for a very important reason. So that a deciever cant come along and tell a person what God is saying. the Bible has been hated since history began, yet it remains even today as what God has said to mankind, the still small voice comes from believing the word of God and keeping it in the mind and heart until it becomes part of the conscience. otherwise that voice can be anyone. Jesus is the same forever and so is His word.
 
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The way i see this.. is you know someone who is suffering.. has anyone ever realised that maybe God sent them the spirit of stupor to send them slight dotty as so they could no longer remember there state of depression..

So while a few in this thread would say im a nut job.. or a troll what they wouldnt realize because they spewed the first thought that came into there head issssssssss... that maybe the lord sent me a little loopy to lighten my load :rolleyes:
the answer is to fix on Jesus Word because it is truth of the spirit of God woth the power to free captives and break bonds within us.
 
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is there any examople of what a demon would say in the presence of Jesus?

matthew 8:29 "And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? "

demons sudder and quake at even the name of Jesus, His word terrifies them because they understand who He is and His authority. they dont speak truths in any way, they twist truths, and they pluck partial truths that lead away from the Lord, they deny truth cleverly and offer what is false, partial truth yet when it is distorted, it become false

the "still small voice" can be spoken by any spirit there a serial killers who think God told them to kill.....IF they would have accepoted the Word of Jesus Christ, they would have known that to even consider killing innocent people is not from God. the written word is there for a very important reason. So that a deciever cant come along and tell a person what God is saying. the Bible has been hated since history began, yet it remains even today as what God has said to mankind, the still small voice comes from believing the word of God and keeping it in the mind and heart until it becomes part of the conscience. otherwise that voice can be anyone. Jesus is the same forever and so is His word.
Demons shudder at Jesus not at you.. in fact you could have one sitting right next to you... and you wouldnt know it...
 
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Ok then answer me this if they shudder at Jesus then why did satan tempt Jesus..because he was week..

Demons might shudder because he can cast them out but they wont shudder when there in front of you..like Jesus when they where in front of him
 
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Deception............................


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Ok well how do you know satan doesnt say follow me im Jesus ?.
Becaus of Jesus words, satan will never say the things Jesus said because they are life, satan is a liar and the truth is not in Him, its impossible for satan to agree with the Lord, thats what makes Him evil, he refuses the truth, wont let it in and works to keep people from accepting it. again though He isnt going to say " im satan lets all go to hell together" He will twist the truth and make it a lie that leads away from repentance and actually hearing Jesus who consistantly is saying " do the things im telling you, apply these things to your life" Jesus made it really clear thats why He is the Light, the way, the truth, the Life, the author and perfector of faith, the shepherd who calls to His sheep and leads them, The Lord of Heaven and earth, the One name in which all men must be saved, the ONLY way to the father.

we can on one hand say " i love Jesus" but Jesus says " If someone Loves me they will accept my word, they will keep my sayings" we have to trust the One who suffered and died for us, we have to also accept His word BECAUSE he is the One God sent to save the world. if we acceopt His word, then we find that what appeared to hard to do, or like it would condemn us, actually is what sets us free. There is no condemnation in His doctrine apart from denying His word

John 12:48-50 "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 49For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak."

if we listen to someone telling us why the Lords word just doesnt apply to us the result is condemnation. accoprding to the same who holds all power and authority over all of Heaven and earth. His words not mine. its somply about Believing Jesus. His gospel rebuilds the sinner into the image of Gods children. His words because we believe them become our thoughts, and our thoughts become our actions because we dont deny " be doers of the word and not hearers only so deceiving yourselves, do what it says." faith in Jesus is salvation.
 
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Becaus of Jesus words, satan will never say the things Jesus said because they are life, satan is a liar and the truth is not in Him, its impossible for satan to agree with the Lord, thats what makes Him evil, he refuses the truth, wont let it in and works to keep people from accepting it. again though He isnt going to say " im satan lets all go to hell together" He will twist the truth and make it a lie that leads away from repentance and actually hearing Jesus who consistantly is saying " do the things im telling you, apply these things to your life" Jesus made it really clear thats why He is the Light, the way, the truth, the Life, the author and perfector of faith, the shepherd who calls to His sheep and leads them, The Lord of Heaven and earth, the One name in which all men must be saved, the ONLY way to the father.

we can on one hand say " i love Jesus" but Jesus says " If someone Loves me they will accept my word, they will keep my sayings" we have to trust the One who suffered and died for us, we have to also accept His word BECAUSE he is the One God sent to save the world. if we acceopt His word, then we find that what appeared to hard to do, or like it would condemn us, actually is what sets us free. There is no condemnation in His doctrine apart from denying His word

John 12:48-50 "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 49For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak."

if we listen to someone telling us why the Lords word just doesnt apply to us the result is condemnation. accoprding to the same who holds all power and authority over all of Heaven and earth. His words not mine. its somply about Believing Jesus. His gospel rebuilds the sinner into the image of Gods children. His words because we believe them become our thoughts, and our thoughts become our actions because we dont deny " be doers of the word and not hearers only so deceiving yourselves, do what it says." faith in Jesus is salvation.
Nice scripture but you forgot satan also wants to be worshipped so much so he will sit in a throne proclaiming to be God...
 
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Ok then answer me this if they shudder at Jesus then why did satan tempt Jesus..because he was week..

Demons might shudder because he can cast them out but they wont shudder when there in front of you..like Jesus when they where in front of him
He temoted Jesus to try to derail Gods plan of salvation, He knew if Jesus went to the cross without sin, it meant victory for Gods Peple, and eternal condemnation for Him and His people. though He doesnt care for anyone other than Himself, His temoptation of Jesus was Him trying to stop Gods plan........but He never had a chance because were talking about Jesus Christ who is invincible.

and also not only Jesus had authority over demons they also were and are subject to His followers through the power of the Holy spirit who is in them. Demons fear Jesus they tremble and quake at even His name, and you have probably read all the word says of Christ in you, " the one in you is greater than the one in the world" All power and authority was given to me" christ in you the hope of Glory ect......we are not powerless against evil even the decil will flee whan a person submits to Gods authority and resists him

james 4:7-8 "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will FLEE FROM YOU. 8Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. CLEANSE YOUR HANDS, ye sinners; and PURIFY YOUR HEARTS, ye double minded.
 
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You forget that the truth was once in him..
do I?

john 8:44-47 "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer FROM THE BEGINNING, and abode not in the truth, because there is NO TRUTH IN HIM. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the FATHER OF IT. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
 
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do I?

john 8:44-47 "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer FROM THE BEGINNING, and abode not in the truth, because there is NO TRUTH IN HIM. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the FATHER OF IT. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
The beginning refers to the beginning of our world..
God had been around a lot longer than our creation.. If im not wrong Satan fell..

For him to fall he must have been in heaven ? or am i wrong

If he was in heaven are you going to tell me next that they allow evil to dwell in heaven..
 
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Deception............................
This is all junk, conspiracy junk. The reality of dictatorship will not be hidden, it will be
blindingly obvious. And the types of people who will go for it are ones who only are
interested in the spiritual authority and not integrity and righteousness.

Look at all the preachers who have zero integrity but all the glitz. That is just a
beginning of the way of the lawless one. When the world has such a crisis no one
knows where to go for a solution, he will appear, to solve the problems and feed
the desires of flesh without repentance.
 
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The way i see this.. is you know someone who is suffering.. has anyone ever realised that maybe God sent them the spirit of stupor to send them slight dotty as so they could no longer remember there state of depression..

So while a few in this thread would say im a nut job.. or a troll what they wouldnt realize because they spewed the first thought that came into there head issssssssss... that maybe the lord sent me a little loopy to lighten my load :rolleyes:
I take this you had a problem with depression.
Now maybe saying some of the things you put forward are a little crazy may actually be true,
and you are admitting you actually know this yourself as well.

If you can balance out the extremes there is always a way through, may God help you and heal
you in your time of need, Amen.