forgiveness according to the truth

[royalscot]

actually they prove how hard it is.. If it was that simple. more people would do it. It is so hard, that few actually do it..

when did salvation, first ask you about forgiveness.

would believe, have to be the first thing, you have to do , in order, then you would be free then ,to ask for forgiveness.

strange how context , paints a different picture. when truth is involved.

we can ask god anything, and one of them things, we can ask for is help, when things are tough or hard to do.
ie asking for help ,to forgive some one else.

 

[followjesus]

Forgiveness is the hardest thing we can do.

It is the giving up of pain in our hearts and detaching our right for revenge from the
hurtful act.

Jesus warns us we cannot expect to be forgiven if we ourselves cannot forgive.

It goes deeper, that Gods justice is external to us, and judgement will rightly fall on
unrepentant sinners, but for us personally we need to walk in forgiveness and humbleness.

Our enemies are just like us, and will only find release if they walk in Christ.
We are set free from the power of sin because pain, fear and sorrow no longer bind us into
being defensive and aggressive towards others. Amen and Praise the Lord

"as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us."
Psalm 103:12

For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Col 1:13-14

The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
1 Tim 1:5

amen peter as always you come with insight and good temperance.

God bless you

 

[Grace777x70]

The parable of the unforgiven servant in which the kingdom of heaven "may be compared to".... Matthew 18

We need to read all scripture in context of the finished work of Christ and what He did on the cross. To say that our sins are not forgiven in the believer after they cross is NOT the gospel.

We will forgive because we are in Christ now and have His nature in us - we need to have our minds renewed to this truth and we will walk in it.

Matt 18:35 says that God will not forgive unless you forgive from your heart.

This was Jesus giving them the law. Moses 2.0 as it shows their need for a Savior in order for Jesus to create in them a new heart that loves and forgives just like their Father does in Jesus.

Love always forgives - it's in our nature now because we are in Christ - created in righteousness and holiness.

We have a new heart now - so we can't really have unforgiveness in our hearts anymore which is why Jesus said ....

"If you do not forgive from your heart" ....this is to expose their need for a new heart which always forgives.

Acts 15:8-9 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] "And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us;

[SUP]9 [/SUP] and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.

We love now from our new hearts in Christ and our hearts cannot sin. So Jesus's verse above in Matthew 18 would not apply to the person in Christ as it is impossible for them to have sin in their heart and to not forgive. We have the very nature of God inside us now - righteousness and holiness.

Romans 5:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

1 John 5:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.

1 John 3:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

We need to preach and teach the true gospel of the grace of Christ so that the believer in Christ can grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus and walk out who they already are in their inner man - the new creation in Christ - created in righteousness and holiness.

When we see Christ as in a mirror - we see true selves being reflected back and the Holy Spirit transforms us outwardly to reflect Christ that is in us now. 2 Cor 3:17-18

 

[eternally-gratefull]

when did salvation, first ask you about forgiveness.

would believe, have to be the first thing, you have to do , in order, then you would be free then ,to ask for forgiveness.

strange how context , paints a different picture. when truth is involved.

we can ask god anything, and one of them things, we can ask for is help, when things are tough or hard to do.
ie asking for help ,to forgive some one else.

I am not sure what you mean.

Salvation can't ask me about forgiveness. God told me about forgiveness, based on his son. And told me to trust him and he would save me.

 

[followjesus]

when did salvation, first ask you about forgiveness.

would believe, have to be the first thing, you have to do , in order, then you would be free then ,to ask for forgiveness.

strange how context , paints a different picture. when truth is involved.

we can ask god anything, and one of them things, we can ask for is help, when things are tough or hard to do.
ie asking for help ,to forgive some one else.

amen the first purpose of prayer is to seek the kingdom and His righteousness. the rest comes because of that. this is a really great comment. if we believe we need to forgive and that is sincere, we will find strength to do so in prayer because we believe what Jesus has said, knowing Who He is that our faith is in. If we refuse to acknowledge His teaching about forgiveness, we will never see the need to seek that change in prayer.

when we pray always part of that porayer should be asking God for the forgivness of those who have sinned against us, as well as our own forgiveness. Prayers shouldnt be about our succes, prosperity, blessing ect all the time, it should much more be for the power to do the things God has spoken for us to do. what you have said applies to anything. Ig im struggling with Lust, seek purity in thought in prayer ask of God and He will answer always. if greed is my issue, pray for a generous heart and be willing to give up the treasures we covet in prayer.....seek first His kingdom and righteousness and all things will be added unto you"

thanks for the great post God bless

 

[followjesus]

My friend, you need to realise the world is a very chaotic place and the forces in society
and politics are more often out of control and have massive effects that no one gets right.
Take Brexit, or immigration, or the global market place and international trade.

No one group or person has a handle on this, it is like a massive flow of people and events
which influences can be brought to bear, but largely it goes where it wants to go.

Now too many nutcase groups want a simple controller, or group who pull the strings, when
it is a mixture of many toxic things, which often lead to very bad outcomes. Just take diesel
cars and the fixing of the exhaust emission figures, which now bring into doubt all diesel cars.
Or the banking system which society bailed out, as if there was a choice. Some nutcase groups
say we could have passed on this, not realising that would have been the end of the global system
and led to war. This is such a dangerous world if we do not understand it and respect its good points,
we will bring terrible things down on our heads.

We are the salt and light, or maybe, some are the salt and light of love in this dark world of selfish
greed and sexual indulgence. But for some that is not the problem, it is the people in the church who
believe in being light to a dark world who should be extinguished. Ironic that, that this might be keeping
the world alive at this very moment. Love really does matter, above all else.

they instigate until you respond so they can label you "vicious" because they have no other strategy, They see the scriptures also that refute the fictional grace revolution.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

they instigate until you respond so they can label you "vicious" because they have no other strategy, They see the scriptures also that refute the fictional grace revolution.

no follow. Most of the time we are just responding to something he said, then giving our take on it..

Which sadly he does not like.

All we do is counter what he says.. Which in turn gets him to attack and blame us..

 

[followjesus]

no follow. Most of the time we are just responding to something he said, then giving our take on it..

Which sadly he does not like.

All we do is counter what he says.. Which in turn gets him to attack and blame us..

well i think if anyone cares about it, they have eyes to follow the thread and its pretty evident 90 percent of the time who instigates who.and then begins with the accusations like "vicious" " rotten fruit".... all because a person doesnt shop in the fictional isle at the book store. let me refresh your memory on the op that none of you ever address.

Matthew 6:14-15 "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: BUT if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."


Mark 11:15-16 "And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. BUT if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

can you explain why these words of the Lord dont apply to those who actually believe in him?

 

[PeterJens]

When truth and integrity no longer matters this is what you get.

It takes a strange mind to take what someone is saying, repeat it but changed,
and then claim this is what they believe.

You have to be very deluded to not recognise this is just crossing the boundaries
of fairly representing someone else and then discussing the beliefs involved.
Fairly representing people is Jesus's way.

But then people who do not listen to Jesus, why would they listen to anyone else.

For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven
Matt 5:20

Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
1 Cor 13:6

 

[Galatea]

Ok so theres a question if you herd a still voice saying follow me im Jesus.. oh and then theres the invitation to attack..

How do you know when you first hear that voice that its satan or Jesus.. Ive herd it said that satan loves his own too

Satan does not love. He is anti-love. He is seeking whom he may steal, kill, and destroy. He goes about as a devouring lion. He loves no one. He is the opposite of God. Satan is hate. He hates God, he hates man, and he hates the truth. He even hates his demons. There is no light nor love in him. I am not sure where you heard that Satan loves his own. He is the author of confusion, the father of lies and would like to see as many people in Hell as possible.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

well i think if anyone cares about it, they have eyes to follow the thread and its pretty evident 90 percent of the time who instigates who.and then begins with the accusations like "vicious" " rotten fruit".... all because a person doesnt shop in the fictional isle at the book store. let me refresh your memory on the op that none of you ever address.

Matthew 6:14-15 "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: BUT if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."


Mark 11:15-16 "And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. BUT if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

can you explain why these words of the Lord dont apply to those who actually believe in him?

can you explain why Peter slanders people. Why he does the very things he judges other people are doing to him. Why when someone kindly asks him to please stop. How he always blame shifts, Gets angry and then starts calling them names, or say they have mental issues?]

Those words do not apply to those who believe in him, because his children will forgive others. We love because he first loved us, We forgive, because he forgave us.

No, God did not say we would forgive perfectly. He just made a statement, if we never forgive anyone, neither will he forgive us. And I believe this to be true

Who never forgives? People who never have experienced forgiveness.

 

[PeterJens]

can you explain why Peter slanders people. Why he does the very things he judges other people are doing to him. Why when someone kindly asks him to please stop. How he always blame shifts, Gets angry and then starts calling them names, or say they have mental issues?

I am a bit lost.
I am now being told I slander people, get angry, calling people names.

I am very precise and I comment on comments as they happen, explaining my approach
and other peoples.

This is called commenting on what is happening not slander.
But above here is an example of the kind of attitude I face. A general statement,
without examples or even specifics. And when their approach does not work,
some odd accusation of denial of something that has not happened.

Oddly anger is not part of my approach, but I am surprised at this kind of repeated
strategies that fail each time.

 

[followjesus]

My friend, you need to realise the world is a very chaotic place and the forces in society
and politics are more often out of control and have massive effects that no one gets right.
Take Brexit, or immigration, or the global market place and international trade.

No one group or person has a handle on this, it is like a massive flow of people and events
which influences can be brought to bear, but largely it goes where it wants to go.

Now too many nutcase groups want a simple controller, or group who pull the strings, when
it is a mixture of many toxic things, which often lead to very bad outcomes. Just take diesel
cars and the fixing of the exhaust emission figures, which now bring into doubt all diesel cars.
Or the banking system which society bailed out, as if there was a choice. Some nutcase groups
say we could have passed on this, not realising that would have been the end of the global system
and led to war. This is such a dangerous world if we do not understand it and respect its good points,
we will bring terrible things down on our heads.

We are the salt and light, or maybe, some are the salt and light of love in this dark world of selfish
greed and sexual indulgence. But for some that is not the problem, it is the people in the church who
believe in being light to a dark world who should be extinguished. Ironic that, that this might be keeping
the world alive at this very moment. Love really does matter, above all else.

Indeed christians should look at the world as a whole see the country wide famines, the fact that there are more than a thousand recognized religions, that isreal is surrounded on all sides with nations whos greatest desire is to eliminate them from the earth, to see the pestilences, the wars the persecution of Christians.

this is off subject but does anyone know that in the year 2016 fox news reported that 90,000 christians were martyred because of thier faith worldwide?

the anti christ is at work and has been for ages. the fact that christianity even has denominations only Highlights a divided church in a world of complete chaos. Even in america and western nations gang violence, our entertainment is filled with violence, sexual immorality, the will of the people rather than the will of God......and truth is cast to the ground without care. This present world is already dark, which is why God provided the Light of Life, and the truth for those who will believe so that we dont have to wonder what faith is real, or who to hear and believe.

 

[followjesus]

When truth and integrity no longer matters this is what you get.

It takes a strange mind to take what someone is saying, repeat it but changed,
and then claim this is what they believe.

You have to be very deluded to not recognise this is just crossing the boundaries
of fairly representing someone else and then discussing the beliefs involved.
Fairly representing people is Jesus's way.

But then people who do not listen to Jesus, why would they listen to anyone else.

For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven
Matt 5:20

Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
1 Cor 13:6

it is exactly what many do with the scriptures, Just what you are describing accurately. But thats what happens when there is no truth to be known or kept. when all is ommited there is nothing to agree upon or be edified with, nothing to accept or learn, nothing to grow in. its a clash of " doctrine" or "beliefs" oil and water.

 

[followjesus]

can you explain why Peter slanders people. Why he does the very things he judges other people are doing to him. Why when someone kindly asks him to please stop. How he always blame shifts, Gets angry and then starts calling them names, or say they have mental issues?]

Those words do not apply to those who believe in him, because his children will forgive others. We love because he first loved us, We forgive, because he forgave us.

No, God did not say we would forgive perfectly. He just made a statement, if we never forgive anyone, neither will he forgive us. And I believe this to be true

Who never forgives? People who never have experienced forgiveness.

"Those words do not apply to those who believe in him, because his children will forgive others. We love because he first loved us, We forgive, because he forgave us."

sure we forgive in response to His forgiveness that doesnt exclude the word of Jesus tho. Have you ever Known someone who says Im a christian, yet holds grudges over the smallest thing? I sure have known plenty, it doesnt Just magically Happen it is the power of Gods Word that changes us.

Just like He was hovering over a formless earth and SAID "let there be light....and light became."

Jesus SPOKE and it is. without His word there is no power to change or create in us. Gods Work is His Word, Just like creation, so are te words of Jesus in us.

 

[Grace777x70]

Here is a view of Matthew 6 and forgiveness through the finished work of Christ. I like to use this site sometimes as it has a place at the bottom of the article where people can ask questions. Many of us have the same questions.

Did Jesus Put Price tags on Forgiveness? (Matthew 6:14-15)

The gospel that Jesus revealed declares that God loves you like a father, he holds nothing against you, and he longs for his sons and daughters to come home. It’s the good news an orphaned world desperately needs to hear.
So why did Jesus say this:

For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. (Matt 6:14-15)

This sounds like bad news, as though you must earn God’s forgiveness through works of forgiveness. How are we to read these words? I’m going to give you three interpretations, and then you can choose.

1. Jesus is preaching law

As many grace preachers have said (including me in this post), Jesus was preaching law to those who lived under law.

Jesus was the greatest law preacher of all time. He preached law so the self-righteous would see their desperate need for grace.

The old law-keeping covenant has gone but the self-righteous who remain need to hear the harsh words of Jesus. The truth is you cannot earn God’s forgiveness. The measure of forgiveness we need is infinitely greater than any forgiveness we could show to others.

Did Jesus put price tags on forgiveness? In this passage, he does! But on the cross he paid that price on our behalf. The very condition for forgiveness that Jesus preached on the Mount, he fulfilled on the cross. Only in Christ do we receive the Father’s forgiveness.

2. Jesus is describing the fruit of grace

Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. (1 John 4:20)

Taylor Swift sang “Haters gonna hate,” but the lyrics are from John. Haters gonna hate because hate is in their heart. The fruit reveal the tree. But if you have been apprehended by the love of your heavenly Father you won’t be a hater anymore. You’ll be a lover and a forgiver.

Paul wrote, “Forgive as the Lord forgave you” (Col 3:13) and that’s the proper order. God acts, we respond. But if we don’t respond it’s as if God never acted. Do you see the connection? If we don’t believe God has forgiven us then Christ died for nothing. That’s what Jesus is saying here:

In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can’t get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God’s part. (Matt 6:14-15, MSG)

Unforgiveness is a form of bondage. It’s a grace killer. If you are unable to release forgiveness to others, you’ll have trouble experiencing the forgiveness that God has given to you.

It’s not that God will become unloving and travel back through time and stop Jesus from carrying your sins on the cross. God never changes! But if you don’t respond to what he has done, it’s as if he’d never done it. Grace without faith is worthless.

In the parable of the unforgiving servant, Jesus tells the story of a king who forgives an indebted servant (Matt 18:23-35). But the servant is unchanged by the king’s grace. By choosing to remain graceless and unforgiving the servant reveals his contempt for the gift and the giver. He does not, “Forgive as the Lord forgave you.” Instead he scorns grace and ends up miserable.

And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses. But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your trespasses. (Mark 11:25-26)

Again, there are two ways to read this: (1) as a law the self-righteous must obey if they are to keep up their charade, or (2) as an exhortation to walk in the grace of a Father who has already forgiven you in Christ.

“Paul, how can you say God has forgiven you when Jesus says he may forgive you?” Because I’ve seen the cross!

To forgive is to send your sins away and Jesus did that already. He will never do it again and you cannot undo what he has done (Heb 9:26). Because of Jesus God is no longer counting your sins against you (2 Cor 5:19).

The issue is not “what can I get God to do?” but “what God has done and what can I now do because of what he has done.”

Has someone hurt you? Are you the victim of an unforgiveable crime? By the grace of God you can be free from that wound! Don’t hold onto the sins of others like the unforgiving servant. You’ll be miserable. The flow of grace will be poisoned by the bitter root. Let go of sin and take hold of grace. Be better, not bitter. See the cross. See what Jesus did for you them forgive them in Jesus’ Name and be free!

3. It’s both, for Jesus speaks to all of us at our point of need

What you look through determines what you see. If you are trusting in your own performance, you will read Jesus’ words as law. “I must work to earn God’s forgiveness.” You cannot succeed! When life hurts you this law will condemn you as a law-breaker in need of grace, and the sooner that happens the better.

However, if you are trusting in Christ’s righteousness, you will read his words as an exhortation to walk in grace. You want more grace? Then give from the abundant supply he has given to you. Let no bitter root grow that causes you to fall short of grace (Heb 12:15).

Jesus spoke words the whole world needs to hear. The genius of Jesus was that he could speak to crowds of people and meet everyone – the self-righteous and the hungry – at their point of need.

It’s a mistake to dismiss the words of Jesus as irrelevant or old covenant or pre-cross. If it’s in the Bible it’s useful for training in righteousness (2 Tim 3:16). The words of Jesus either reveal the self-righteousness that leads to death or the Christ-righteousness that causes you to reign in life!

The followers of Jesus still know that he has the words of eternal life!

Here is the link below if anyone is interested. Bless you!

https://escapetoreality.org/2015/08/06/forgiveness-matthew-6v14-15/

 

[followjesus]

Here is a view of Matthew 6 and forgiveness through the finished work of Christ. I like to use this site sometimes as it has a place at the bottom of the article where people can ask questions. Many of us have the same questions.

Did Jesus Put Price tags on Forgiveness? (Matthew 6:14-15)

The gospel that Jesus revealed declares that God loves you like a father, he holds nothing against you, and he longs for his sons and daughters to come home. It’s the good news an orphaned world desperately needs to hear.
So why did Jesus say this:

For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. (Matt 6:14-15)

This sounds like bad news, as though you must earn God’s forgiveness through works of forgiveness. How are we to read these words? I’m going to give you three interpretations, and then you can choose.

1. Jesus is preaching law

As many grace preachers have said (including me in this post), Jesus was preaching law to those who lived under law.

Jesus was the greatest law preacher of all time. He preached law so the self-righteous would see their desperate need for grace.

The old law-keeping covenant has gone but the self-righteous who remain need to hear the harsh words of Jesus. The truth is you cannot earn God’s forgiveness. The measure of forgiveness we need is infinitely greater than any forgiveness we could show to others.

Did Jesus put price tags on forgiveness? In this passage, he does! But on the cross he paid that price on our behalf. The very condition for forgiveness that Jesus preached on the Mount, he fulfilled on the cross. Only in Christ do we receive the Father’s forgiveness.

2. Jesus is describing the fruit of grace

Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. (1 John 4:20)

Taylor Swift sang “Haters gonna hate,” but the lyrics are from John. Haters gonna hate because hate is in their heart. The fruit reveal the tree. But if you have been apprehended by the love of your heavenly Father you won’t be a hater anymore. You’ll be a lover and a forgiver.

Paul wrote, “Forgive as the Lord forgave you” (Col 3:13) and that’s the proper order. God acts, we respond. But if we don’t respond it’s as if God never acted. Do you see the connection? If we don’t believe God has forgiven us then Christ died for nothing. That’s what Jesus is saying here:

In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can’t get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God’s part. (Matt 6:14-15, MSG)

Unforgiveness is a form of bondage. It’s a grace killer. If you are unable to release forgiveness to others, you’ll have trouble experiencing the forgiveness that God has given to you.

It’s not that God will become unloving and travel back through time and stop Jesus from carrying your sins on the cross. God never changes! But if you don’t respond to what he has done, it’s as if he’d never done it. Grace without faith is worthless.

In the parable of the unforgiving servant, Jesus tells the story of a king who forgives an indebted servant (Matt 18:23-35). But the servant is unchanged by the king’s grace. By choosing to remain graceless and unforgiving the servant reveals his contempt for the gift and the giver. He does not, “Forgive as the Lord forgave you.” Instead he scorns grace and ends up miserable.

And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses. But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your trespasses. (Mark 11:25-26)

Again, there are two ways to read this: (1) as a law the self-righteous must obey if they are to keep up their charade, or (2) as an exhortation to walk in the grace of a Father who has already forgiven you in Christ.

“Paul, how can you say God has forgiven you when Jesus says he may forgive you?” Because I’ve seen the cross!

To forgive is to send your sins away and Jesus did that already. He will never do it again and you cannot undo what he has done (Heb 9:26). Because of Jesus God is no longer counting your sins against you (2 Cor 5:19).

The issue is not “what can I get God to do?” but “what God has done and what can I now do because of what he has done.”

Has someone hurt you? Are you the victim of an unforgiveable crime? By the grace of God you can be free from that wound! Don’t hold onto the sins of others like the unforgiving servant. You’ll be miserable. The flow of grace will be poisoned by the bitter root. Let go of sin and take hold of grace. Be better, not bitter. See the cross. See what Jesus did for you them forgive them in Jesus’ Name and be free!

3. It’s both, for Jesus speaks to all of us at our point of need

What you look through determines what you see. If you are trusting in your own performance, you will read Jesus’ words as law. “I must work to earn God’s forgiveness.” You cannot succeed! When life hurts you this law will condemn you as a law-breaker in need of grace, and the sooner that happens the better.

However, if you are trusting in Christ’s righteousness, you will read his words as an exhortation to walk in grace. You want more grace? Then give from the abundant supply he has given to you. Let no bitter root grow that causes you to fall short of grace (Heb 12:15).

Jesus spoke words the whole world needs to hear. The genius of Jesus was that he could speak to crowds of people and meet everyone – the self-righteous and the hungry – at their point of need.

It’s a mistake to dismiss the words of Jesus as irrelevant or old covenant or pre-cross. If it’s in the Bible it’s useful for training in righteousness (2 Tim 3:16). The words of Jesus either reveal the self-righteousness that leads to death or the Christ-righteousness that causes you to reign in life!

The followers of Jesus still know that he has the words of eternal life!

Here is the link below if anyone is interested. Bless you!

https://escapetoreality.org/2015/08/06/forgiveness-matthew-6v14-15/

thanks for the input

 

[JaumeJ]

When we comment with understanding from the Word oft time is is necessary to rebuke a post, especially when the Holy Spirit reveals it to be a thinly disguised attempt to condemn rather than to enlighten.

When ever the perceived attack or condemnation is not of the Holy Spirit it originates from a mind of flesh.

When I say we must assure we obey Göd, and this is taken as being under the law, I am afraid that assessment is totally laking the Holy Spirit for it is the Holy Spirit who has placed the law according to Jesus Christ within us all.

Jesus, and Paul following Jesus, goes to great lengths in the Gospel to make it c lear thought we are free of the curse of the law, death, we are to continue to obey all that is moral, there is no law agains being so.

Praise Jesus Christ and may all who love Him always hear Him, amen.

I am a bit lost.
I am now being told I slander people, get angry, calling people names.

I am very precise and I comment on comments as they happen, explaining my approach
and other peoples.

This is called commenting on what is happening not slander.
But above here is an example of the kind of attitude I face. A general statement,
without examples or even specifics. And when their approach does not work,
some odd accusation of denial of something that has not happened.

Oddly anger is not part of my approach, but I am surprised at this kind of repeated
strategies that fail each time.

 

[followjesus]

When we comment with understanding from the Word oft time is is necessary to rebuke a post, especially when the Holy Spirit reveals it to be a thinly disguised attempt to condemn rather than to enlighten.

When ever the perceived attack or condemnation is not of the Holy Spirit it originates from a mind of flesh.

When I say we must assure we obey Göd, and this is taken as being under the law, I am afraid that assessment is totally laking the Holy Spirit for it is the Holy Spirit who has placed the law according to Jesus Christ within us all.

Jesus, and Paul following Jesus, goes to great lengths in the Gospel to make it c lear thought we are free of the curse of the law, death, we are to continue to obey all that is moral, there is no law agains being so.

Praise Jesus Christ and may all who love Him always hear Him, amen.

"Praise Jesus Christ and may all who love Him always hear Him, amen."

amen, and if we begin to sink in the waves because of doubt, He is there if we call out " Lord save me!" There is Grace enough for we....

 

[JaumeJ]

Peter walking on the water is a wonderful lesson for all teaching us that, like our Master, with faith we too walk upon the waters because of Jesus Christ............yes, praise God, when we start to falter, He keeps us above the waters always.

Thought the waters roar, our peace is Jesus Christ, oh halleluyah, amen.