forgiveness according to the truth
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Ofcourse, everything is "just opinion" or a judgement of a situation.
But to say because you are a political leader you are a satanist is going miles too far.
People are mainly sinners lost in their sin and power trips of one sort or another.
If you had a video which said for instance GW Bush and Tony Blair got Iraq wrong because
they thought it was some global policeman job they were doing, and unfortunately what
bound them together for christian faith. Now that is 100% more realistic.
People with naive good intentions, not understanding the cultural and power politics of an
area will always get it wrong.
But maybe truth and impossible to solve social, religious issues are too big a topic for you
to comprehend, but this is what we are talking about.
But to say because you are a political leader you are a satanist is going miles too far.
People are mainly sinners lost in their sin and power trips of one sort or another.
If you had a video which said for instance GW Bush and Tony Blair got Iraq wrong because
they thought it was some global policeman job they were doing, and unfortunately what
bound them together for christian faith. Now that is 100% more realistic.
People with naive good intentions, not understanding the cultural and power politics of an
area will always get it wrong.
But maybe truth and impossible to solve social, religious issues are too big a topic for you
to comprehend, but this is what we are talking about.
I take it your being to noisey.. peter parker 
This comes with a lot of emotional baggage. If you want to take on reality and face
the things of God, you will find God sends a light down on you as a warning, to be
careful.
And I am not being nosey, I am suggesting you should try and be responsible and take
your situation into account, and not play the innocent.
A lot of the drugs they use to treat these conditions have a large effect and can be as
difficult as the underlying condition. If you want understanding and people to listen,
do not get so pushy.
Well i suppose we all try to be people pleasers peter pan
and politics are more often out of control and have massive effects that no one gets right.
Take Brexit, or immigration, or the global market place and international trade.
No one group or person has a handle on this, it is like a massive flow of people and events
which influences can be brought to bear, but largely it goes where it wants to go.
Now too many nutcase groups want a simple controller, or group who pull the strings, when
it is a mixture of many toxic things, which often lead to very bad outcomes. Just take diesel
cars and the fixing of the exhaust emission figures, which now bring into doubt all diesel cars.
Or the banking system which society bailed out, as if there was a choice. Some nutcase groups
say we could have passed on this, not realising that would have been the end of the global system
and led to war. This is such a dangerous world if we do not understand it and respect its good points,
we will bring terrible things down on our heads.
We are the salt and light, or maybe, some are the salt and light of love in this dark world of selfish
greed and sexual indulgence. But for some that is not the problem, it is the people in the church who
believe in being light to a dark world who should be extinguished. Ironic that, that this might be keeping
the world alive at this very moment. Love really does matter, above all else.
Peter you have me worked out in your own logic no one elses..i knew it wouldnt be long befor you spew your first thought yet again..
And thinking helps, sharing likewise. I suggest you should try it more, you might find
release and help where you did not expect it before.
What comes out of the world goes back into the world Global warming is a myth.....I dont go round with eyes shut.. I see demons walking every where..
If you think for one momment that you have politics all worked out based upon the world being a chaoctic place thats just one way to look at it.. but politics is not just for one reasons,,, its for many like caring for our needy,, from families to housing to just about every good moral conduct you can imagine..
Unfortunately we live in a world where sinners have to be catered for too.. until they come to repentance.. thats why we have civil rights..
So there ya have it a message from outside of the box.. amen ,,, but then we do have forces that want to take over the world too..
This could be happening and you dont know that its not... so why call my vid junk ?..
I think its because you just like to taunt...
If you think for one momment that you have politics all worked out based upon the world being a chaoctic place thats just one way to look at it.. but politics is not just for one reasons,,, its for many like caring for our needy,, from families to housing to just about every good moral conduct you can imagine..
Unfortunately we live in a world where sinners have to be catered for too.. until they come to repentance.. thats why we have civil rights..
So there ya have it a message from outside of the box.. amen ,,, but then we do have forces that want to take over the world too..
This could be happening and you dont know that its not... so why call my vid junk ?..
I think its because you just like to taunt...
We have a choice either to believe in Jesus and the New Covenant or not. The New Covenant started after Jesus shed His blood and died and then rose again.
Here is a visual about forgiveness before the cross and after the cross for those that like them... Jesus finished work on the cross changed everything for us . We have a great complete salvation in Him.
Here is a visual about forgiveness before the cross and after the cross for those that like them... Jesus finished work on the cross changed everything for us . We have a great complete salvation in Him.
you would need to be jewish , if your context was correct. to what you posted ,here ,is correct.
since you would need a law , to be jewish. and through that law , when did it say anything about forgive others.
and if jesus was talking to jewish nation or people , then this would be new teaching to all there listener.
but then, why would you ask, or state , when the new covenant started.
you need a law for the forgiveness of sins. by the looks of it, you have no idea , what grace is. or how to maintain that gift.
4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.
context is what you need before you get truth. (acts 15)
He was in Heaven named lucifer, but He never had the truth His heart was pride, to exalt Himself above God, to overthrow The Lord God who is One and cannot be overthrown, thats why He fell. we cont Have scripture to say this next part but in my own belief, He was also lying then in order to deceive the angels which followed His rebellion.
The "truth" is the spirit of truth, that which came by Jesus Christ. it has never resided in satan as far as any scripture or credible knowledge would implicate. Im not arguing with you or anything, my whole point is Jesus would Know and He says there is no truth in Him, that He is the father of Lies, that lying is His native tounge. I will always choose to believe the things Jesus said because He is really clear about the Fact that His words are not His own, But God the Fathers words. If God says he has no truth in Him, i believe that and find it more worthy to share than what i can estimate or reason.
so i hope you understand why i believe what i believe, and that i respect you and everyones right to believe what you choose, but i am obligated to my own conscience that is being renewed daily by the truth. as of today, i feel as if im innocent, but tomorrow or in the future God will reveal something in my life that i need to let go, to repent of. He is not come to destroy us, but to save through the Knowledge of the truth.
Man was deceived and fell through the lies of the enemy, Jesus came to heal that and bless us with the truth of Gods Word. Much of the old testament is Gods response to mans sin because they were deceived, because it is His response to our disobedience, we do not see His word in truth. Jesus came with the truth of Gods word, and Knowledge of the truth leads to salvation from the lie that leads to death. so Grace is the reason God hasnt allowed mans sinfulness to destroy mankind, But the Truth of Jesus Christ is what He sent to save us. Grace and truth came By Jesus Christ.
sorry if this doesnt make sense to you, it does to me but i understand that not everyone sees things the same, i would think any post on this site that says something, the person who writes it, believes it. and i feel with full assurance that i also have that right to share the things i know to be true, and actually consider it an obligation. if people dont want to hear it, or disagree God Loves them anyways, and may they walk forever in The Lord. i find no benifit when threads turn to a huge argument, but hoinestly anything a person writes on this site that says anything other than grace, becomes a huge argument because those who believe that doctrine make it a huge argument and cant seem to see the value in going to threads they do agree with rather than spending thier time arguing when someone quotes scriptre that doisagrees with jospeh prince.
this is not directed at you, nor should it offend anyone Just something that should be considered. I purposely dont go to threads i knopw i am going to disagree with, for the sake of Peace in a place that represents christianity. i think if people disagree with the thongs i write, thats ok and thier God given right to do so. Others may find good value in the things i write, and thats okay to because its a bible discussion forum.
sorry for the long winded response, its just a hundrance to all of us when threads are derailed from the start back into the same debate and again not directed at you, most of what i see you write is discussion whether disagreeing or agreeing. But this issue should be addressed by the operators of this site in my humble opinion.
The "truth" is the spirit of truth, that which came by Jesus Christ. it has never resided in satan as far as any scripture or credible knowledge would implicate. Im not arguing with you or anything, my whole point is Jesus would Know and He says there is no truth in Him, that He is the father of Lies, that lying is His native tounge. I will always choose to believe the things Jesus said because He is really clear about the Fact that His words are not His own, But God the Fathers words. If God says he has no truth in Him, i believe that and find it more worthy to share than what i can estimate or reason.
so i hope you understand why i believe what i believe, and that i respect you and everyones right to believe what you choose, but i am obligated to my own conscience that is being renewed daily by the truth. as of today, i feel as if im innocent, but tomorrow or in the future God will reveal something in my life that i need to let go, to repent of. He is not come to destroy us, but to save through the Knowledge of the truth.
Man was deceived and fell through the lies of the enemy, Jesus came to heal that and bless us with the truth of Gods Word. Much of the old testament is Gods response to mans sin because they were deceived, because it is His response to our disobedience, we do not see His word in truth. Jesus came with the truth of Gods word, and Knowledge of the truth leads to salvation from the lie that leads to death. so Grace is the reason God hasnt allowed mans sinfulness to destroy mankind, But the Truth of Jesus Christ is what He sent to save us. Grace and truth came By Jesus Christ.
sorry if this doesnt make sense to you, it does to me but i understand that not everyone sees things the same, i would think any post on this site that says something, the person who writes it, believes it. and i feel with full assurance that i also have that right to share the things i know to be true, and actually consider it an obligation. if people dont want to hear it, or disagree God Loves them anyways, and may they walk forever in The Lord. i find no benifit when threads turn to a huge argument, but hoinestly anything a person writes on this site that says anything other than grace, becomes a huge argument because those who believe that doctrine make it a huge argument and cant seem to see the value in going to threads they do agree with rather than spending thier time arguing when someone quotes scriptre that doisagrees with jospeh prince.
this is not directed at you, nor should it offend anyone Just something that should be considered. I purposely dont go to threads i knopw i am going to disagree with, for the sake of Peace in a place that represents christianity. i think if people disagree with the thongs i write, thats ok and thier God given right to do so. Others may find good value in the things i write, and thats okay to because its a bible discussion forum.
sorry for the long winded response, its just a hundrance to all of us when threads are derailed from the start back into the same debate and again not directed at you, most of what i see you write is discussion whether disagreeing or agreeing. But this issue should be addressed by the operators of this site in my humble opinion.
It is because these conspiracy people are truly paranoid nutcases.
I looked into the 9/11 collapse and the truthers. Again there are good reasons why the buildings
failed, yet conspiracy people want a hidden agenda.
Or Alex Jones and the underground hangers with aliens in them. Again nut jobs.
Or Donald Trump and the press. Yes the press have their bias, but you need this
competing mess who vie for the best story that people want to hear.
And it works very well. It is why we have democracies with their compromises
and issues and not dictatorships. But as a people we also need to believe in
the moral principles and common themes underpinning everything.
When you get a culture like Somalia or Afghanistan where there is no moral culture
and everything is tribal, nothing can work in our way, because no one cares.
And I only glimpse some of the complexities, but these things matter, more so now
with 7 billion people on the planet than ever before. We rely on the fact these things
work and have real integrity. We could not be having this conversation if it was not here
among total strangers, but all accepting the principles of giving and receiving, of integrity
and honesty in cash transactions. And all this is on pure idea or vapourware, nothing you
can touch, just trust.
I looked into the 9/11 collapse and the truthers. Again there are good reasons why the buildings
failed, yet conspiracy people want a hidden agenda.
Or Alex Jones and the underground hangers with aliens in them. Again nut jobs.
Or Donald Trump and the press. Yes the press have their bias, but you need this
competing mess who vie for the best story that people want to hear.
And it works very well. It is why we have democracies with their compromises
and issues and not dictatorships. But as a people we also need to believe in
the moral principles and common themes underpinning everything.
When you get a culture like Somalia or Afghanistan where there is no moral culture
and everything is tribal, nothing can work in our way, because no one cares.
And I only glimpse some of the complexities, but these things matter, more so now
with 7 billion people on the planet than ever before. We rely on the fact these things
work and have real integrity. We could not be having this conversation if it was not here
among total strangers, but all accepting the principles of giving and receiving, of integrity
and honesty in cash transactions. And all this is on pure idea or vapourware, nothing you
can touch, just trust.
So lets get this straight he never had no truth and he was in heaven befor he fell ?...
yep he fell because he had tasted the truth and chose to rebel through pride.. He fell because he commited wilful sin he fell becuase God punished hime he fell because He turned bad..
He fell because he knew the truth but chose to dishoner.
Your post is derailed too like it or lump it ive chucked a spanner into your works.
yep he fell because he had tasted the truth and chose to rebel through pride.. He fell because he commited wilful sin he fell becuase God punished hime he fell because He turned bad..
He fell because he knew the truth but chose to dishoner.
Your post is derailed too like it or lump it ive chucked a spanner into your works.
haha got to laugh its because people like you insult the truth.. and spew your first thought..
From where im standing its you who have an over powering character .
Not just conspiricies pete pan,,, (fly me to the moon mr interlectual come on let me wipe my shoes kinda of a guy...
Its imagination something that you take to a whole new level...
From where im standing its you who have an over powering character .
Not just conspiricies pete pan,,, (fly me to the moon mr interlectual come on let me wipe my shoes kinda of a guy...
Its imagination something that you take to a whole new level...
I like this post of yours, Jason, and it is something I have been pondering, in relation to Judas and not Satan alone, though, for someone, and I cannot remember who nor is that important, but someone recently said that Judas had the truth and was saved but walked away from the Truth despite being a doer of good works, all this they said was proven by the fact that Judas had been hand picked by Jesus, whereas I have not actually seen any evidence of that in the Scriptures, meaning, I do not see evidence of Judas having been saved, for he was a thief and he was obviously also a deceiver as per Satan being allowed to reign in him to betray Jesus. Just my tangential thoughts on Satan being a liar and deceiver from the beginning, etc, sorry for the interruption, sometimes someone will say something and it strikes me as being so wrong, but I say nothing right away, not feeling a need to respond to everything, but your post on Satan brought it all to mind again.
The parable of the unforgiving debtor, the man receives forgiveness, then goes out and refuses to forgive the other guy who offended Him. The Lord Hears of this calls the forgiven man back, re institutes His debt and throws him to the tormentors. thats the importance ofthis op, Jesus says clearly you must forgive others, the motivation or " will" you are speaking of comes from the fact that God forgave us all our sins, and that Jesus His only Son suffered immensely, was spit on, beaten more than once by roman soldiers and the jewish counsel he was then flogged mercilessly, made to carry a criminals cross of condemnation through Gods beloved city which Jesus came to save, he then Had nails driven through His hands and feet and hung on a cross for hours where His blood spilled down that cross, ventually He suffocated under the wieght of the worlds sin that was placed upon Him and finally was released from His agony.
the will to fogive is that same person who suffered said " forgive and you will be forgiven"<<<thats enough to motivate a believer.
the will to fogive is that same person who suffered said " forgive and you will be forgiven"<<<thats enough to motivate a believer.