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Therein is your first mistake, as if interpretation belong to man. Now you are teaching there are two aspects to interpret the Word of God, which Scriptures does not give you permission to even do. Scriptures plainly teach interpretations belong to God, NOT to men.
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DiscipleDave
You teach you can't lose it. Scriptures teach you can lose it. Are you saying i should believe you over what Scriptures teach?
If you can TRY to explain this, i would love to hear you TRY. But i would imagine you will not even try to attempt to explain it, OR, your explanation will be so lame it will be transparent, and therefore won't.
When a person is SAVED, their names is written in the Book of Life. This is TRUE and is plainly written in Scriptures. Scriptures also plainly teaches that a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life. Can you TRY to explain that, how a person is Saved (written in the Book of Life) can be blotted out? Can you? Your belief teaches you are sealed and CAN'T be blotted out of the Book of Life. Yet Scriptures teach you can be blotted out. This is going to be interesting to see how you will explain that?
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DiscipleDave
Did God tell you that Moses is with God right now? Or is this yet another one of your interpretations, what you believe is the TRUTH based on your own or other mens doctrines? If from Scriptures then reveal the Scripture which teaches that.
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DiscipleDave
This is why we need to rely on the Holy Spirit and not our religious beliefs or church traditions - like all works-based mindsets that nullify the grace of God from operating in our lives.
The revelation of Christ and His finished work is what is needed in order to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ our Lord. All truths in the kingdom of God are received by grace through faith in what Christ has already done for us.
John 14:26 (NASB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
1 Corinthians 2:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God,
1 John 2:27 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.
The revelation of Christ and His finished work is what is needed in order to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ our Lord. All truths in the kingdom of God are received by grace through faith in what Christ has already done for us.
John 14:26 (NASB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
1 Corinthians 2:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God,
1 John 2:27 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.
Tell me, if a person is tempted to obey satan and commit a sin, and they do it. Where is there mind at then?
If they do the same sins they did prior to getting SAVED, how have they a RENEWED MIND in Christ?
If a person willingly chooses to obey satan and commit sin, is their mind on Christ? or on SELF (selfishness)? those who Truly have a renewed mind of Christ, have a mind of Christ. Woe to this generation which takes thought they can willingly obey satan's temptations all the while claiming they have a renewed mind in Christ.
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DiscipleDave
Well....Jesus did meet with Moses and Elijah on the mount. Do you think God brought him up from hell to talk with him? Perhaps God brought Elijah from being with Him because God did take him but then He brought Moses from hell so that the both of them could talk with Jesus on the mount? I firmly believe that Moses is with God but you can believe whatever you want....
Their mind is on the flesh - not the devils fault.
Growing in the grace and knowledge of Christ is how our minds are renewed. We are transformed by the Holy Spirit as we behold the glory ( goodness) of Christ as in a mirror. 2 Cor. 3:17-18
Having our minds renewed is a fruit of hearing about Christ and His finished work - and it is done by the Holy Spirit and we participate with Him in this. But it starts and ends by the Spirit of Grace revealing Christ to us - this supplies the proper nutrients for the mind to be renewed. This enables us to walk free and live a live that glorifies God.
This all done by grace through faith in Christ alone.
The answer is to walk by the spirit so that we don't do the lusts of the flesh to fulfill what "it's" desires.
Galatians 5:16 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
Galatians 5:25 (NASB)
[SUP]25 [/SUP] If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.
Preach Christ and His grace and people will grow up in Him. It is the grace of God that teaches us to deny ungodliness and to live righteously in this world. Titus 2:11-12 - Not the religion of self-effort.
The revelation of Christ Himself bring the grace needed to live - not religious self-effort and the false belief of working to maintain righteousness or salvation as in going to be with the Lord when we die.
1 Peter 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Growing in the grace and knowledge of Christ is how our minds are renewed. We are transformed by the Holy Spirit as we behold the glory ( goodness) of Christ as in a mirror. 2 Cor. 3:17-18
Having our minds renewed is a fruit of hearing about Christ and His finished work - and it is done by the Holy Spirit and we participate with Him in this. But it starts and ends by the Spirit of Grace revealing Christ to us - this supplies the proper nutrients for the mind to be renewed. This enables us to walk free and live a live that glorifies God.
This all done by grace through faith in Christ alone.
The answer is to walk by the spirit so that we don't do the lusts of the flesh to fulfill what "it's" desires.
Galatians 5:16 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
Galatians 5:25 (NASB)
[SUP]25 [/SUP] If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.
Preach Christ and His grace and people will grow up in Him. It is the grace of God that teaches us to deny ungodliness and to live righteously in this world. Titus 2:11-12 - Not the religion of self-effort.
The revelation of Christ Himself bring the grace needed to live - not religious self-effort and the false belief of working to maintain righteousness or salvation as in going to be with the Lord when we die.
1 Peter 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
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If something is whole, are you saying it can't possibly become unwholesome?
If something is preserved, are you saying it can't possibly be unpreserved?
If something is kept safe, are you saying it can't possible become unsafe?
If something is delivered, are you saying it can't possible return to where it was previously at?
If something is made well, are you saying it can't possible ever become ill again?
If something is Saved, are you saying it can't CHOOSE become unsaved?
Is Everyone who ever got Saved, still Saved?
Scriptures do not lie. No fornicator will enter into Heaven. PERIOD. Therefore anyone who continues to fornicate, regardless if they claim they are SAVED, justified, sanctified, covered by the Blood, SEALED, or whatever else, they will NOT enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. Not one verse is going to be made void. Not one verse is going to be ignored. Not one verse is going to disappear.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, :10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. :11 And such WERE (past tense) some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Woe to anyone who continues to do any of those things, they will NOT enter into the Kingdom of God EXACTLY as the Word of God Plainly teaches they will NOT. And it does not matter what you claim with your mouth, nor what you Believe. Scriptures are not broken because of what you believe is the TRUTH.
i am Saved right now. If i die or am killed right now, i am sealed, i am covered by His Blood, i am righteous because of Him. And on Judgement Day when the Books are opened, my name will be there.
BUT:
That does not mean i will remain in the above condition, i can turn away from God, i can stop believing, i can deny Jesus, i can stop Loving One Another, i could start fornicating, lying, cheating, i can start doing illegal drugs, i would start raping people, i could start having sex with animals or children, i would disregard what all of Scriptures teach. i could start obeying satan every single time i am tempted to commit sin.
People, wake up, start living by the Bible. Stop thinking your Faith (only) is enough. Start thinking you are sealed and can't be unsealed, then it does not matter what you do RIGHT? A person who is sealed can do all those wicked things above and still be sealed, RIGHT? Are you then saying those who are sealed it is impossible for them to do those wicked things above? You do error, and altogether FAIL to understand how a person is written in the Book of Life (SAVED) can be blotted out of the Book of Life (Become UNSAVED). It would behoove all of you to find out the TRUTH about this, instead of relying on what satan has taught you concerning it, namely (OSAS)
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DiscipleDave
i hear what you are saying, but what does Scriptures teach?
Heb_5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
According to this inspired by God verse, who has Eternal Salvation? Those who obey Jesus. And what does Jesus COMMAND us to do? Love One Another. Tell me, how do you Love One Another if not by works? How can i help someone and it not be a work? How can i feed the hungry and it not be a work? How can i cloth the naked and it not be considered a work? How can i Love anyone at all, and it not be a WORK?
i hear what YOU are saying. Scriptures teach Faith only is dead. Scriptures teach Works only is dead too. Scriptures over and over and over again teach Faith and Works go hand in hand. You better have both, because if you just have Faith, your not going to go to Heaven, if you just have Works you likewise are not going to go to Heaven. But if you have Both, Faith and Works, then you will go to Heaven. Because we are commanded to Love One Another and that IS Works.
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DiscipleDave
You are basing your salvation and righteousness on what YOU do or don't do. That is anti-Christ in it's belief system which is why so many refute this works-based religion.
Is faith enough? Is Jesus really a liar? I don't believe that He is myself so I believe what He says.
John 1:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
John 3:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 6:29 (NASB)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent."
Acts 8:37 (KJV)
[SUP]37 [/SUP] And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Acts 15:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Acts 16:30-31 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP] And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
[SUP]31 [/SUP] And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
I could go on and on but that is enough. All works-based religions deny the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ and replace Him for what "they must do" in order to receive salvation and righteousness. This only comes by grace through faith in Christ's work for us on the cross and resurrection.
I believe enough has been said for people to know that it is by Christ alone that we stand.
When we are fed the proper nutrient of Christ's love and grace for us - we will have His life manifested in us outwardly to live godly lives.
My hope is built on nothing less then Jesus blood and righteousness.
Is faith enough? Is Jesus really a liar? I don't believe that He is myself so I believe what He says.
John 1:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
John 3:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 6:29 (NASB)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent."
Acts 8:37 (KJV)
[SUP]37 [/SUP] And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Acts 15:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Acts 16:30-31 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP] And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
[SUP]31 [/SUP] And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
I could go on and on but that is enough. All works-based religions deny the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ and replace Him for what "they must do" in order to receive salvation and righteousness. This only comes by grace through faith in Christ's work for us on the cross and resurrection.
I believe enough has been said for people to know that it is by Christ alone that we stand.
When we are fed the proper nutrient of Christ's love and grace for us - we will have His life manifested in us outwardly to live godly lives.
My hope is built on nothing less then Jesus blood and righteousness.
Everyone is free to believe what they want, this is True. You either believe the Truth of God or you don't. But agreeing to disagree is a tool satan uses, not God. Scriptures teaches over and over again to have one mind, to think the same things. NOT agree to disagree. Why do you think there are so many divisions among us? Because instead of working it out and coming to an agreement, working towards having one mind in Christ, we agree to disagree and separate ourselves one from another. We have so many denomination in the Church because of "Agreeing to Disagree" it is not of God. God would rather people work out their disagreement to come to an agreement and have ONE MIND.
Question. Those who are blotted out of the Book of Life, do you think they had the same blind belief? What i mean is, when their name was written in the Book of Life, do you think they ever believed it was possible they could be removed from the Book of Life? Or do you think they also believed they were SEALED, SAFE, COVERED? Answer please.
Yes, this is very True. But that does not means a person can't be blotted out of the Book of Life, like you seem to believe.
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DiscipleDave
Amen, to teach us how, (Through His Power and Strength) we can actually accomplish that task? Difficult, Yes? Narrow and Difficult is the way that leads to life ever lasting.
Jesus our Savior and Lord gave up His life for you to live. We in a like manner should be willing to give up our lives for Him. Are you willing to give up your LIFE for Him? All of you say Yes, but are not willing to give up the sin that so easily besets you. You say you are willing to give up your life, but not sinning.
Those who have Truly given their life up for Jesus Christ, ONLY do those things that please Jesus, not please self.
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DiscipleDave
Jesus our Savior and Lord gave up His life for you to live. We in a like manner should be willing to give up our lives for Him. Are you willing to give up your LIFE for Him? All of you say Yes, but are not willing to give up the sin that so easily besets you. You say you are willing to give up your life, but not sinning.
Those who have Truly given their life up for Jesus Christ, ONLY do those things that please Jesus, not please self.
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DiscipleDave
Obeying Christ is believing in what He has done. In this believing - He will supply thr life and grace needed to walk out His love that is in us.
We love because He first loved us. It is His fruit that is bearing in our lives. He is the Vine we are the branches. Get this wrong and we end up with a works-based religion of "doing in order to get". This is the very opposite of the true Christian life. Without Him we can do nothing.
Being "obedient to the faith" is believing in Christ and His work for us for life and living. and depending on His grace and life in everything.
Notice here that even the law-keeping priests need to be "obedient to the faith". The keeping of the law of Moses is NOT the same as being "obedient to the faith".
Acts 6:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] The word of God kept on spreading; and the number of the disciples continued to increase greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were becoming obedient to the faith.
Pagans/Gentiles also need to be "obedient to the faith" and believe in Christ and what He has done for life and living.
Romans 1:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith among all the Gentiles for His name's sake,
All people of all types are called to be "obedient to the faith" - which is belief in Christ alone for life and living.
Romans 16:26 (NASB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith;
We love because He first loved us. It is His fruit that is bearing in our lives. He is the Vine we are the branches. Get this wrong and we end up with a works-based religion of "doing in order to get". This is the very opposite of the true Christian life. Without Him we can do nothing.
Being "obedient to the faith" is believing in Christ and His work for us for life and living. and depending on His grace and life in everything.
Notice here that even the law-keeping priests need to be "obedient to the faith". The keeping of the law of Moses is NOT the same as being "obedient to the faith".
Acts 6:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] The word of God kept on spreading; and the number of the disciples continued to increase greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were becoming obedient to the faith.
Pagans/Gentiles also need to be "obedient to the faith" and believe in Christ and what He has done for life and living.
Romans 1:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith among all the Gentiles for His name's sake,
All people of all types are called to be "obedient to the faith" - which is belief in Christ alone for life and living.
Romans 16:26 (NASB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith;
Jesus died for the whole world. All people are in the book of life until they reject Jesus' sacrifice for sins and instead depend on their own works for salvation. Those who do not have Christ - will be blotted out of the book of life.
He that has the Son has Life - he that does not have the Son does not have life.
John 3:36 (NASB)
[SUP]36 [/SUP] "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
Can someone by an "act of their will" un-born themselves from being a human being? Can they one day say "I don't want to be a human anymore so I as an act of my will - I am un-born myself" ( we would think there is something wrong with this person's mind )
Can some one by "an act of their will" stop being a son/daughter to someone? Of course not - they will always be the child of their parents whether they like it or not.
We can no more by "an act of our will" un-born ourselves from God which Peter says we are born again of incorruptible seed which lies and abides forever. We cannot "un-child" ourselves from being God's child because of Jesus Christ.
( we can become sick in our minds as the person that wants to "un-born" themselves as a human but the real us - the inner man of the heart that is in Christ - that inner man has his will entwined with God's perfect will because of union with Christ )
This is one of the reasons we need to "renew our mind" to align up with the spiritual truths that are in our new spirit in Christ.
Following God's commandments to us will be a natural result of being in Christ as we grow up in Him.
We are looking at what "we do" when we say that we lose salvation for going to heaven instead of what "Jesus has already done".
Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would be with you and in you forever. Now, is Jesus a liar? That's a question to ask ourselves.
Our Father will perfect that which concerns us for it is He that is at work in us both to will and to do His good pleasure. I'll trust His love in us to "guide us" through life. Phil. 2:13
There is also discipline of the Lord ( child-training in Greek - not "un-childing" them as children ) This proves that we are legitimate children of God.
Philippians 1:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
He that has the Son has Life - he that does not have the Son does not have life.
John 3:36 (NASB)
[SUP]36 [/SUP] "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
Can someone by an "act of their will" un-born themselves from being a human being? Can they one day say "I don't want to be a human anymore so I as an act of my will - I am un-born myself" ( we would think there is something wrong with this person's mind )
Can some one by "an act of their will" stop being a son/daughter to someone? Of course not - they will always be the child of their parents whether they like it or not.
We can no more by "an act of our will" un-born ourselves from God which Peter says we are born again of incorruptible seed which lies and abides forever. We cannot "un-child" ourselves from being God's child because of Jesus Christ.
( we can become sick in our minds as the person that wants to "un-born" themselves as a human but the real us - the inner man of the heart that is in Christ - that inner man has his will entwined with God's perfect will because of union with Christ )
This is one of the reasons we need to "renew our mind" to align up with the spiritual truths that are in our new spirit in Christ.
Following God's commandments to us will be a natural result of being in Christ as we grow up in Him.
We are looking at what "we do" when we say that we lose salvation for going to heaven instead of what "Jesus has already done".
Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would be with you and in you forever. Now, is Jesus a liar? That's a question to ask ourselves.
Our Father will perfect that which concerns us for it is He that is at work in us both to will and to do His good pleasure. I'll trust His love in us to "guide us" through life. Phil. 2:13
There is also discipline of the Lord ( child-training in Greek - not "un-childing" them as children ) This proves that we are legitimate children of God.
Philippians 1:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
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Those who are covered by His Blood are those that walk in the light. Are you saying you are lost because you are still living in sin? Why do you say you are lost? What sin do you do that you can't possibly cease from with His help? If then you are lost it is because you choose to be lost. Those who are covered by His Blood walk in the light as He did. And every single one of us can walk as He did, but you choose not to walk like He did, you choose to continue to live in sin, all the while claiming to be washed by His Blood.
1Jn 1:7 But if (conditional) we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
All those who claim with their mouths they are covered by His Blood, all the while they knowingly and willingly obey satan (HIS ENEMY) which is DARKNESS, will be the same people who will be weeping and gnashing their teeth because they did not hearken to the TRUTH when they heard it coming from Scriptures themselves.
This generation loves to sin, and will do whatever it takes as to not cease from them, but to continue in them, and what better doctrine to tickle the ears than a doctrine that teaches you can continue to sin and still go to Heaven. a doctrine from satan himself.
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DiscipleDave
1Jn 1:7 But if (conditional) we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
All those who claim with their mouths they are covered by His Blood, all the while they knowingly and willingly obey satan (HIS ENEMY) which is DARKNESS, will be the same people who will be weeping and gnashing their teeth because they did not hearken to the TRUTH when they heard it coming from Scriptures themselves.
This generation loves to sin, and will do whatever it takes as to not cease from them, but to continue in them, and what better doctrine to tickle the ears than a doctrine that teaches you can continue to sin and still go to Heaven. a doctrine from satan himself.
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DiscipleDave
slip and fall, are things not done on purpose. The sins that i teach against are those that are knowingly and willingly committed. Sins that you know full well are sinful, against God, evil, wicked, darkness, and yet choose to do them anyways. They who do those things will not be accepted into the Kingdom of Heaven, unless they repent and cease to do those things again. Scriptures plainly teach that all liars will burn in the lake of fire and brimstone. Therefore NO liar will enter into Heaven. Therefore if you continue to lie, you will be judged a Liar, and Scriptures can't be broken. But if you repent of your lying and cease to lie any more, then you will not be judged a Liar. But as long as a person continues to lie, regardless of what they claim with their mouths, they will be judged a Liar and will not enter into Heaven, even if they are the very elect.
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DiscipleDave
Are you serious? Do you actually think i could live as i do through my own power? lol, seriously i just laughed out loud. i would not walk as i do WITHOUT Him. When i am tempted to commit a sin that i WANT to commit, i immediately look to Him to help me. i think about Scriptures that teach. There is no sin so strong that i can't handle it, and with every temptation that comes my way. Jesus allows a path out of it. So when i am tempted to sin, do you think i rely on my own flesh, my own mind to overcome that temtptation? NO, NO, NO. i WANT to sin, i want to satisfy myself, i want to sin. If i look to myself to overcome that temptation, i would not do it, i would commit the sin 95% of the time, relying on myself. NO, when i am tempted to commit sin, i look to Jesus to help me, i will immediately go into prayer, or get the Bible out start reading it, saying "Help me Jesus, satan is tempting me, Help me Jesus" and guess what? He helps me. Do you know why? Because i looked to Him to help me overcome that temptation, NOT to my own self, which will indeed FAIL. i could not, nor ever walk as i do through my own power, i am only capable of walking as He walked, through my Savior Jesus Christ? i could not do it without Him.
The Question is, Why don't you seek His help when you are tempted to commit sin? i will tell you why, because you don't want to Truly cease from that sin, you would rather go ahead and commit that sin, believing the false doctrines which teach you that you can continue to sin and still go to Heaven. Woe to this generation indeed, for it is written those who deny Jesus will not enter into Heaven. And i assure you when you are tempted to commit sin, you deny the help of Jesus Christ to help you overcome that sin. Tell me, how have you NOT denied Him and His Power to over that temptation?
To slip or to Fall are things that done by accident, not intentional. The sins that God is against, are those that are knowingly and willingly committed. That is to say, satan will tempt you to commit a sinful thing. You know it is sinful, you know it is not Godly, you know how it makes you feel by the Holy Ghost afterwards, YET YOU DO IT ANYWAYS. These are the sins that God is against. You don't slip on purpose, you don't fall on purpose. Those who knowingly and willingly chooses to obey our Savior and Lord Jesus Christ's enemy the devil have darkness in them, darkness because they choose to obey satan and commit sin, which by the way is AGAINST Jesus Christ. The Holy Ghost and Jesus are telling you NOT to obey satan, but these do it anyways, ignoring the Holy Ghost and denying the power of Jesus to help them overcome that temptation.
Those who are willing to give up their life for Jesus, as He gave His life for them, will also give up this type of sinning, and they will cease for HIM.
Who told you that i thought i was perfect? This did not come from me. Even though today i am walking in the light does not mean i will remain in the light. That is why it is a daily battle (easier with time though, i have been celibate for over 10 years now, easier now, then when i started) But it is a daily battle. Satan will not cease to try to get back into sin, he knows full well if he can't get me back to sinning, he will lose me for one of his soldiers in the final battle. But Perfection is not Truly reached until Judgement Day and we rid ourselves of our sinful wicked flesh that we currently reside in, and get our Glorified bodies which indeed is perfect.
Do you keep your eyes on Jesus? Do you? When you are tempted to commit sin are your eyes on Jesus then? or are they on self? If they were on Jesus, they would not be on self.
You say you Trust Him. If then Jesus is telling you not to commit the sin that you are about to commit, how are you Trusting Him then? You say you keep your eyes on Him, and Trust Him. But if your actions proves otherwise IF you knowingly and willingly commit sin which you know full well is against Him, and do them anyways.
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DiscipleDave
This is indeed an example of slipping and falling, this is not a sin unto Death.
There are three types of sins
1) Sins unto Death
2) Sins not unto Death
3) Sins not forgiven unto men
Sins unto Death are those that i adamantly teach against, those that are knowingly and willingly committed.
Sins not unto Death, are those that are NOT knowingly and willingly committed.
Sins not forgiven unto men, is blaspheme of the Holy Ghost.
In this example you have done well, not because you got angry, but because afterwards you were prompted by the Holy Ghost to follow up with this post and you obeyed the Holy Ghost. In this you have done well. Continue to listen to the Holy Ghost and you will see and be with the Lord Jesus for all eternity.
If after a person knowingly and willingly commits a sin, and the Holy Ghost speaks that you should not do that again, Better start listening. And if you seem to not be able to stop, better do whatever you can do to get help to stop. Jesus will help you. He is able. Howbeit, you must first want to stop.
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DiscipleDave
There are three types of sins
1) Sins unto Death
2) Sins not unto Death
3) Sins not forgiven unto men
Sins unto Death are those that i adamantly teach against, those that are knowingly and willingly committed.
Sins not unto Death, are those that are NOT knowingly and willingly committed.
Sins not forgiven unto men, is blaspheme of the Holy Ghost.
In this example you have done well, not because you got angry, but because afterwards you were prompted by the Holy Ghost to follow up with this post and you obeyed the Holy Ghost. In this you have done well. Continue to listen to the Holy Ghost and you will see and be with the Lord Jesus for all eternity.
If after a person knowingly and willingly commits a sin, and the Holy Ghost speaks that you should not do that again, Better start listening. And if you seem to not be able to stop, better do whatever you can do to get help to stop. Jesus will help you. He is able. Howbeit, you must first want to stop.
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DiscipleDave
There are many warnings in the NT that speak of how the works of the flesh will bring destruction to our lives while on this earth. Take up shooting heroin in your arms and this destruction will come fast.
The answer to this is to walk by the spirit so that we don't fulfill the lusts of the flesh to do "it's" desires.
There are many forms of flesh - bad and good flesh. Good flesh is us thinking that we can maintain our own righteousness by ourselves and salvation - as in going to be with the Lord for eternity is based on us.
If we are denying the finished work of Christ for righteousness and salvation - that is a work of the flesh and it is unbelief in what Christ has done. This is just as destructive as living the homosexual lifestyle. It may be more "religiously" accepted in some people's minds but it is still death and it nullifies the grace of God from operating in our lives.
The mindset that says we 'lose our salvation" have no idea of the love and grace of God towards us yet as we all should know. The preaching of Christ Himself is what brings grace and thus salvation.
The Holy Spirit is with us forever Jesus said.
John 14:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]"I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
[SUP]17 [/SUP]that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.
Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
The Spirit of truth is with us forever!
2 John 1:2 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] for the sake of the truth which abides in us and will be with us forever:
Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever. John 14:16-17.
Our Lord is NOT a liar. We can trust Him when He says - I will never leave nor forsake you. Heb. 13:5
John says we are safe in the Lord as He keeps us. Isn't that exciting to know that?
The new creation in Christ cannot sin because Christ Himself keeps us because we are in Christ now - joined as one spirit with Him for all eternity. 1 Cor. 6:17.
1 John 5:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.
Preach Christ and His work and we will grow in grace to manifest outwardly the new creation in Christ. This will glorify God.
The answer to this is to walk by the spirit so that we don't fulfill the lusts of the flesh to do "it's" desires.
There are many forms of flesh - bad and good flesh. Good flesh is us thinking that we can maintain our own righteousness by ourselves and salvation - as in going to be with the Lord for eternity is based on us.
If we are denying the finished work of Christ for righteousness and salvation - that is a work of the flesh and it is unbelief in what Christ has done. This is just as destructive as living the homosexual lifestyle. It may be more "religiously" accepted in some people's minds but it is still death and it nullifies the grace of God from operating in our lives.
The mindset that says we 'lose our salvation" have no idea of the love and grace of God towards us yet as we all should know. The preaching of Christ Himself is what brings grace and thus salvation.
The Holy Spirit is with us forever Jesus said.
John 14:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]"I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
[SUP]17 [/SUP]that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.
Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
The Spirit of truth is with us forever!
2 John 1:2 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] for the sake of the truth which abides in us and will be with us forever:
Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever. John 14:16-17.
Our Lord is NOT a liar. We can trust Him when He says - I will never leave nor forsake you. Heb. 13:5
John says we are safe in the Lord as He keeps us. Isn't that exciting to know that?
The new creation in Christ cannot sin because Christ Himself keeps us because we are in Christ now - joined as one spirit with Him for all eternity. 1 Cor. 6:17.
1 John 5:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.
Preach Christ and His work and we will grow in grace to manifest outwardly the new creation in Christ. This will glorify God.
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Then you have not read the Scriptures. Scriptures over and over and over again teach against sinning. Jesus told a man and a woman to "Go and sin no more" It is also written "Shall we sin? God forbid" Also it is written those who sin are of the devil. Also Christians are instructed to get rid of the sin that so easily besets us. Also it is written to no longer obey the flesh and its desires. And there are hundreds of others verses which plainly teach AGAINST sinning. Click on the website below, and then click on Sin No More.
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DiscipleDave
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DiscipleDave