Help! Ramadan is in my house.

[Yeraza_Bats]

When I came to Spain, I asked everyone I met why the Spanish were so cruel, vile and obnoxious to their animals. I was told by everyone, "oh that's the Arab Islamic legacy". Strangely, that is not Islamic at all. Islam is very aware of animals as having feelings and rights.

Koran:
“If someone kills a sparrow for sport, the sparrow will cry out on the Day of Judgment, “O Lord! That person killed me in vain! He did not kill me for any useful purpose.

“God has ordained kindness (and excellence) in everything. If the killing (of animals) is to be done, do it in the best manner, and when you slaughter, do it in the best manner by first sharpening the knife, and putting the animal at ease.”
When you set your dog (for the chase), mention the name of God if he catches the game, and you reach it while it is still alive, cut, its throat quickly (so it won’t suffer).”

I finally got the correct answer the other day. It is a legacy of the Roman Catholic Church, which taught that animals did not have souls, and therefore could be treated like dirt.

From Bukhari Vol. 4, #540

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed.
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From Abu Dawud #2839

Abd Allah B. Mughaffal reported the apostle of Allah as saying: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one.
The Hadith's note for #2839 says, "The prophet did not order the killing of all the dogs, for some are to be retained for hunting and watching. He ordered to kill the jet black ones. They might be more mischievous among them.
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From Muslim #3814

Ibn Mughaffal reported: Allah's messenger ordered the killing of dogs and then said, "what is the trouble with them (the people of Medina? How dogs are nuisances to them (the citizens of Medina)? He then permitted keeping of dogs for hunting and (the protection of) herds. ...[and for] for the protection of cultivated land.
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From Muslim #Number 055

Ibn Mughaffal reported: The Messenger of Allah ordered killing of the dogs, and then said: What about them, i. e. about other dogs? and then granted concession (to keep) the dog for hunting and the dog for (the security) of the herd, and said: When the dog licks the utensil, wash it seven times, and rub it with earth the eighth time.
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From Muslim #3813

Abu Zubair heard Jabir Abdullah saying: Allah's messenger ordered us to kill dogs and we carried out this order so much so that we also killed the dog roaming with a women from the desert. Then Allah's apostle forbade their killing. He said: "It is your duty to kill the jet-black (dog) having two spots (on the eyes) for it is a devil.
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The note for #3814 says,

"The Hadith gives us an idea why the prophet commanded to kill dogs. There must have been an excess of stray dogs and thus the danger of rabies in the city of Medina and its suburbs. The prophet therefore ordered to kill them. Later on when it was found that his Companions were killing them indiscriminately, he forbade them to do so and told them that only the ferocious beasts which were a source of danger to life should be killed. The word "Devil" in the Hadith clarifies this point. Here devil stands for ferocious.
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From Bukhari Vol. 3, #515

Narrated Abu Huraira: "Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever keeps a dog, one Qirat of the reward of his good deeds is deducted daily, unless the dog is used for guarding a farm or cattle." Abu Huraira (in another narration) said from the Prophet, "unless it is used for guarding sheep or farms, or for hunting." Narrated Abu Hazim from Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A dog for guarding cattle or for hunting.""
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From Muslim Number 3815:

Ibn Umar reported Allah's Messenger as saying: He who keeps a dog other than that meant for watching the herd or for hunting loses every day out of his deeds equal to two qirat.
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From Muslim Number 2062:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying: He who attends the funeral till the prayer is offered for (the dead), for him is the reward of one qirat, and he who attends (and stays) till he is buried, for him is the reward of two qirats. It was said: What are the qirats? He said: They are equivalent to two huge mountains. Two other narrators added: Ibn 'Umar used to pray and then depart (without waiting for the burial of the dead). When the tradition of Abu Huraira reached him, he said:" We have lost many qirats."
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From Bukhari Vol. 4, #448

Narrated Abu Talha: "I heard Allah's Apostle saying; "Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a human being or an animal).""
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From Bukhari Vol. 7, #843

Narrated Salim's father: "Once Gabriel promised to visit the Prophet but he delayed and the Prophet got worried about that. At last he came out and found Gabriel and complained to him of his grief (for his delay). Gabriel said to him, "We do not enter a place in which there is a picture or a dog.""
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From Muslim, #5276:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying: Angels do not accompany the travelers who have with them a dog and a bell.
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From Muslim, #5279:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying: "The bell is the musical instrument of Satan."
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Muhammad and Dogs


You should also look into the way they butcher a cow for food, I hear its done in the an incredibly painful manner for the animal.
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[J7]

Muhammad and Dogs


You should also look into the way they butcher a cow for food, I hear its done in the an incredibly painful manner for the animal.
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[/INDENT]

The same way as Kosher I think. I'll check it out

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

Quran 19:33

19:33- And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive."

19:35- It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is.

19:36- [Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path."

It is entirely clear by reading the quran that the "Jesus" of the quran is NOT Christ from the Gospel. He told us Himself, false prophets would come after Him to deceive many.

1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is he who denies that Jesus is the Christ. It is the antichrist that denies the Father and the Son.

 

[miknik5]

Genesis 9:5 is GOD's WORD

No man or manmade institution can override GOD's WORD

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

19:33- And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive."

19:35- It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is.

19:36- [Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path."

It is entirely clear by reading the quran that the "Jesus" of the quran is NOT Christ from the Gospel. He told us Himself, false prophets would come after Him to deceive many.

1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is he who denies that Jesus is the Christ. It is the antichrist that denies the Father and the Son.

Wanted to add more that I have found-

19:88 And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son."

19:89 You have done an atrocious thing.

19:90 The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation
19:91 That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.

19:92 And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.

19:93 There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant.
https://www.quran.com/19

Islams entire and literal purpose is to deny Jesus Christ.

 

[J7]

Well he clearly is Christ from the gospel. He is not Jesus the fisherman from Tyre.

Look, I am no Koranic expert, but the Koran clearly calls Jesus the Christ:

HOLY QURAN 2:87

"..O MARY! GOD GIVETH THEE GLAD TIDINGS OF A WORD FROM HIM: HIS NAME WILL BE CHRIST JESUS, THE SON OF MARY.."
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[Yeraza_Bats]

Well he clearly is Christ from the gospel. He is not Jesus the fisherman from Tyre.

Look, I am no Koranic expert, but the Koran clearly calls Jesus the Christ:

HOLY QURAN 2:87

"..O MARY! GOD GIVETH THEE GLAD TIDINGS OF A WORD FROM HIM: HIS NAME WILL BE CHRIST JESUS, THE SON OF MARY.."
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Yes, the quran praises Jesus, but merely as a prophet of allah who said worship allah and nothing more.

Muhammad means "the praised one", Muslims praise Muhammad as much as Catholics praise Mary. The fact that they praise Jesus does not mean theyve accepted Jesus. The Jesus of the quran is not the same as the Christ from the Bible.

Also, the quran denies that He died for our sins-

Quran 4:157-158 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise

 

[Rachmiel]

You will never find the name Jesus in the Quran
You will never find the Arabic name of Jesus in the Koran
Many people think the characters of Quran are like the Bible in reading
But very subtly they have totally different stories and even meanings
Don't feel bad it is a very common error
Isa's story was cunningly worded to seem similar
In fact even the name Allah does not mean God in Arabic, search the Shahada
The wiseman will know that Yasu is the only begotten son of Ilaha

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

You will never find the name Jesus in the Quran
You will never find the Arabic name of Jesus in the Koran
Many people think the characters of Quran are like the Bible in reading
But very subtly they have totally different stories and even meanings
Don't feel bad it is a very common error
Isa's story was cunningly worded to seem similar
In fact even the name Allah does not mean God in Arabic, search the Shahada
The wiseman will know that Yasu is the only begotten son of Ilaha

Do you have a link that can show that allah does not actually mean God in arabic? Id really like to have some proof of that.

 

[Rachmiel]

Do you have a link that can show that allah does not actually mean God in arabic? Id really like to have some proof of that.

Go to google
And search
The Shahada
Look for it in arabic
Consider its words
It is a witness against them on the day of Judgement
They made shirk against Ilaha
Saying that they believe only in a strange god called il-Allah

 

[J7]

You will never find the name Jesus in the Quran
You will never find the Arabic name of Jesus in the Koran
Many people think the characters of Quran are like the Bible in reading
But very subtly they have totally different stories and even meanings
Don't feel bad it is a very common error
Isa's story was cunningly worded to seem similar
In fact even the name Allah does not mean God in Arabic, search the Shahada
The wiseman will know that Yasu is the only begotten son of Ilaha

You'll never find the name Jesus in Israel. His name was Yeshuah, a form of Joshua.

Clearly the characters of Moses and Abraham are the same biblical characters and to deny that is lunacy. Ishmael was originally of the House of Israel for God's sake.

 

[posthuman]

she doesn't eat when it is light, and she eats nuts, pizza and olives when she breaks fast.

i had no idea that pizza was halal

 

[NayborBear]

“I don't really like that it is prayed to any other God than our Heavenly Father in my home.”

Not sure I understand that comment – the God of Abraham and Isaac is the same God of Ishmael. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all worship the same God no matter how he is referred to in different beliefs.

Just because the methods of worship are different than yours does not make them somehow wrong (or evil, etc., etc.)

Or are you asserting that the God of the OT is a different deity than that of the NT and therefore she's not worshiping the same God you do??

Have to take issue with this comment! Maybe this will help clear it up for you in seeing the difference. Who was it that God, wanted Abraham to "sire" with?....It wasn't Abraham's wife;s handmaid! For you see, this Holy Priesthood IS to be carried onwards (and this is important) "through the loins" of Issac, onwards to Jacob, who was later renamed Israel, by the COVENANT GOD, of Abraham, VIA his wife Sarah! NOT, the "handmaid"! Although, God DID tell the handmaid, that Ishmael's seed would be as numerous as the sands on the sea, just as He said unto Abraham.
What is missing with the "sons of ishmael" (muslims), is, the SACRIFICE, IN OBEDIENCE, Abraham offered unto God! And this, is where you are very incorrect!

 

[NayborBear]

If you enlisted to "foster" a child. Can you not also enlist to "cease" fostering a child? Could be "just a phase", she's going through? Perhaps not! You are the only one who can make that call.

 

[jaybird88]

Jesus is called a prophet in Islam, its no secret that He is mentioned in the quran. The difference is the quran turns Him into something Hes not.

Btw, can you tell us where in the quran you found that verse?

Jesus is called a prophet in the new testament.

 

[J7]

My takeaway from all this is that next time I talk about faith with a Muslim, I will ask them who they think Jesus is, and take it from there.

 

[miknik5]

You'll never find the name Jesus in Israel. His name was Yeshuah, a form of Joshua.

Clearly the characters of Moses and Abraham are the same biblical characters and to deny that is lunacy. Ishmael was originally of the House of Israel for God's sake.

Ishmael was never the named and promised sign of THE PROMISE
GOD by HIS WORD was clear to distinguish that more than three times when HE told Abraham he would be the father of many nations

GOD told Abraham by a promise this above and then said once again clearly that it would not be through Ishmael but through isaac that his seed would be reckoned .

 

[J7]

Ishmael was never the named and promised sign of THE PROMISE
GOD by HIS WORD was clear to distinguish that more than three times when HE told Abraham he would be the father of many nations

GOD told Abraham by a promise this above and then said once again clearly that it would not be through Ishmael but through isaac that his seed would be reckoned .

Yes, so what God means is that Jesus would come through Isaac.

This is an entirely different point to Ishmael being originally in the House of Israel.

 

[miknik5]

Yes, so what God means is that Jesus would come through Isaac.

This is an entirely different point to Ishmael being originally in the House of Israel.

No. That is not what it means at all

isaac was simply a sign pointing to THE PROMISED SON

What did you think GOD was showing Abraham through Isaac when HE told him to sacrifice his son?

GOD used signs and lower visible representations which were ever and always pointing us to HIS HIGHER HIDDEN SPIRITUAL TRUTHS found in THE SON

THE SON, THE SEED of THE PROMISE of GOD in which THE INHERITENCE in GOD is hidden through in by and because of THE ONE and ONLY SON of GOD who came forth from GOD and into the world to bring back what had been lost scattered and separated from GOD in HIS BODY

HE

 

[miknik5]

Yes, so what God means is that Jesus would come through Isaac.

This is an entirely different point to Ishmael being originally in the House of Israel.

You're not understanding THE HOUSE, THE BODY , THE ISRAEL (who is THE SON) of GOD