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No, I'm saying that both terms are the same thing. One born, others adopted.
The following passage was written by a man who did miracles, to people who did miracles -
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God
The following passage was written by a man who did miracles, to people who did miracles -
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God
T
We are indeed children of God, but Jesus wasn't just the son of God.
He WAS God at the same time--hence the term "Trinity". Three in One.
Jesus was a man--but he was GOD at the same time. We will never become perfect.
People cannot do miracles. Only God can do miracles. When miracles occur, it is because God is working through that individual. However, it doesn't change the fact that Jesus was GOD--not just a perfect Human being.
What sort of "Christian" are you? Catholic? Jehovah Witness?
He WAS God at the same time--hence the term "Trinity". Three in One.
Jesus was a man--but he was GOD at the same time. We will never become perfect.
People cannot do miracles. Only God can do miracles. When miracles occur, it is because God is working through that individual. However, it doesn't change the fact that Jesus was GOD--not just a perfect Human being.
What sort of "Christian" are you? Catholic? Jehovah Witness?
T
He is, but he's not at the same time.
now....you might think i'm contradicting myself, but i'm not.
God is Three in One. That picture you quoted, shows that DIRECTLY.
Jesus IS the Son of God. But at the same time, he IS GOD.
One analogy i sometimes use is that of water.
Water has three forms: Solid, Liquid, and Gas.
God has three forms: the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit.
However, it DOESN'T mean there are three Gods (there aren't three waters either).
There is only ONE God--with three forms.
Water is still water.
^_^
hope that was a BIT clearer? Ask more if you're still curious. <3
now....you might think i'm contradicting myself, but i'm not.
God is Three in One. That picture you quoted, shows that DIRECTLY.
Jesus IS the Son of God. But at the same time, he IS GOD.
One analogy i sometimes use is that of water.
Water has three forms: Solid, Liquid, and Gas.
God has three forms: the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit.
However, it DOESN'T mean there are three Gods (there aren't three waters either).
There is only ONE God--with three forms.
Water is still water.
^_^
hope that was a BIT clearer? Ask more if you're still curious. <3
R
agree
disagree, though we might never consider ourselves perfect.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
agree
agree
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"YHWH of hosts" plural
No denomination.
But I don't always feel comfortable calling myself a Christian, because I don't measure up to the guys in the bible that called themselves Christian.
Just a servant.
disagree, though we might never consider ourselves perfect.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
agree
agree
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"YHWH of hosts" plural
No denomination.
But I don't always feel comfortable calling myself a Christian, because I don't measure up to the guys in the bible that called themselves Christian.
Just a servant.
B
Q. how come the bible says the world is 10,000 old when there are many test saying otherwise such as consistent radioactive dating results obtained with different radioactive elements, and the consistent correlation with objects of known age. Even the dinosaurs have been proven beyond reasonable doubt to have been around over 60 million years ago.
T
Lol, i've never read in the Bible in explicit terms that the world is 10,000 years old.
Radioactive dating has been proven, in several examples to be faulty.
How, do you think, dinosaurs prove that they existed around 60million years ago? I myself have never seen any hard evidence for that...but i'm open to learning more. Can you give me some scientific proof of that? <3
Radioactive dating has been proven, in several examples to be faulty.
How, do you think, dinosaurs prove that they existed around 60million years ago? I myself have never seen any hard evidence for that...but i'm open to learning more. Can you give me some scientific proof of that? <3
T
lol, i disagree with you as well. ^_^
As human beings, we are inherently sinful. That means we are ALWAYS going to be waging war against our sinful nature.
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23T
The perfection that Jesus is talking about is the perfection we will be able to attain in HEAVEN.
Our world is a fallen one, ever since sin entered the world. So no matter how hard we strive, we WILL never be perfect. Jesus was perfect because he was GOD. When we admit that we have sinned, and ask Jesus to come and take over our lives, and help us, and forgive our sins, then we get that "perfection" in Christ. However, it's because his PERFECT sinless blood is covering our SINFUL Degraded nature. ONLY THEN, are we "perfect" in God's sight.
We are still sinful though. And we will NEVER attain that perfection---Jesus is the ONLY way to complete us and make us whole again.
uh......i'm also non-denominational.
You shouldn't compare yourself to the apostles in the Bible! We are all equal in the sight of God! A Christian is anyone who admits that they're a sinner, asked Christ into their heart, has a new life in Him. A Christian believes in the Trinity of God, and they believe that the Bible is 100% accurate, complete, and UNBLEMISHED (there are NO missing books or contradictions).
That's what a christian is.
Also, make sure you understand.
The word Christian: it literally means Little Christ. So...if you feel uncomfortable calling yourself "little Christ", pray about it. A Christian is supposed to be a light to all nations! We, as Christians, are salt and light to this world!!!
In Christ Alone,
TheBlackRider
As human beings, we are inherently sinful. That means we are ALWAYS going to be waging war against our sinful nature.
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23T
The perfection that Jesus is talking about is the perfection we will be able to attain in HEAVEN.
Our world is a fallen one, ever since sin entered the world. So no matter how hard we strive, we WILL never be perfect. Jesus was perfect because he was GOD. When we admit that we have sinned, and ask Jesus to come and take over our lives, and help us, and forgive our sins, then we get that "perfection" in Christ. However, it's because his PERFECT sinless blood is covering our SINFUL Degraded nature. ONLY THEN, are we "perfect" in God's sight.
We are still sinful though. And we will NEVER attain that perfection---Jesus is the ONLY way to complete us and make us whole again.
No denomination.
But I don't always feel comfortable calling myself a Christian, because I don't measure up to the guys in the bible that called themselves Christian.
Just a servant.
But I don't always feel comfortable calling myself a Christian, because I don't measure up to the guys in the bible that called themselves Christian.
Just a servant.
You shouldn't compare yourself to the apostles in the Bible! We are all equal in the sight of God! A Christian is anyone who admits that they're a sinner, asked Christ into their heart, has a new life in Him. A Christian believes in the Trinity of God, and they believe that the Bible is 100% accurate, complete, and UNBLEMISHED (there are NO missing books or contradictions).
That's what a christian is.
Also, make sure you understand.
The word Christian: it literally means Little Christ. So...if you feel uncomfortable calling yourself "little Christ", pray about it. A Christian is supposed to be a light to all nations! We, as Christians, are salt and light to this world!!!
In Christ Alone,
TheBlackRider
E
god gives us the chose to beleve him and trust him and love him so if u dont then he will try to protect u but he wont stop u from goin down the rong path and endin up in hell cos its ur mistake and he put us on earth to test us so he dusnt want to make u make all the right choices cos then he wudnt hav ur love hed just be gettin a robots