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I always wondered whether his abiltys could have been exaggerated over time e.g. turning water to wine (could just mixed some water and wine) or resurrection maybe he wasn't dead. Walking on water I have no answer for. I do not believe 100% what I have just said I see them more as possibility. At the end of the day I have never seen anything like that performed other that a Magician.
Well, it makes sense, first of all, that you haven't seen most of what Jesus did anywhere else. If you did, it would undercut the whole point of Jesus doing those things in the gospels - to witness to his authority as the Christ.

Your concern - that the things Jesus did were exaggerated - is possible, but one has to consider how such exaggerations could have come about, and in what circumstances. Most scholars - even sceptical ones - would conclude that the written records we have of the life of Jesus were written within a lifetime of him. Certainly, things like the crucifixion and resurrection are the central point of the gospels - they make little sense if you take those things out, which would seem to indicate that such beliefs about Jesus were quite early.

Would it make a difference to your belief in Christianity if you had good reason to believe that the resurrection of Jesus was probable, and at the very least occurred quite similarly to how it was recorded in the gospel accounts?
 
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No you're not understand friend. A person cannot rely on miracles for their salvation, faith only can do that. Jesus did those to prove His ministry and who He was. What He did was for our belief, but it was what God willed not man. Man didn't tell Jesus, I'll only believe in you if you heal me. Actually He said, according to your faith you are healed. He healed people because they believed He has this power. God always intervenes, that's why Jesus came, matter of fact, we Christians are one of things that God use to help people see Him.

Look, man is sinful. God is holy. Because man has rejected God by sinning. His sin condemns himself to hell. God said no, I don't want anyone to go there. I can't force man to be all saved because they have free will. But I will provide a way, I'll provide an atonement so that they will be seen as holy in my eyes. That's when Jesus was sent. Believe and you're saved, don't and you reject the way.
I am corrected, in the beginning of the church miracles of the church was for people to believe. They were signs for His authority and testimony. But it still shouldn't be the basis of your salvation. We walk by faith not by sight.
 
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Q. how come the bible says the world is 10,000 old when there are many test saying otherwise such as consistent radioactive dating results obtained with different radioactive elements, and the consistent correlation with objects of known age. Even the dinosaurs have been proven beyond reasonable doubt to have been around over 60 million years ago.
The bible is definitively not a scientific book but a collection of spiritual books written thousand years ago by different authors. These inspired authors tried to interpret the manifestation of the Spirit according to the knowledge of their epochs. They had no interest in science. Scientists, on the other hand, tried to model the physical manifestation of this world according to their epochs. In fact, most scientific theories are wrong at the start of their initial modelling process.

If you are unsure about God then you should ask him directly: “Lord if you are real show me somehow”. As it is written: “If you seek me with all your heart I will let you find me”.
 
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There is a lot of evidence of many sorts and types thatshow (prove to me) that the Bible is (is what it claims to be: that it isinspired by God) is true.
1. Fulfillment of prophecy. Read the first three chapters of Matthew. Underlineall the prophecies fulfilled just in those chapters.

2. The resurrection of Jesus. How do you answer the emptyof Jesus? Remember, your answer must be reasonable. That is it must take intoaccount what the gospels say about Jesus’ death and burial and resurrection.Yes, you can say someone stole the body. But with that you will have to (if youare sincere and honest) who would steal the body. How would they steal thebody? What would be the purpose? You would have to compare your answer to whatpeople did before Jesus was crucified and after He was crucified. You will haveto consider the book of Acts, the threats made against the disciples of Jesus. Onand on.
3. The Lord’s Supper. From whence came the Lord’s Supper?It is a memorial supper that is related to the death of Jesus. How did it comeabout? Check first century writers, they refer to it.
4. The conversion of Saul of Tarsus in Acts 9. How wouldyou answer that incident? A well to do man, a powerful individual, aninfluential individual gives it all up for Jesus. Remember, though, Saul didnot at one time believe Jesus was the Messiah? What changed Saul’s mind?
The documents, manuscripts, papyri, the codices, theversions, all of different dates from different places all writing about thesame subject. Consider that at one time the oldest Hebrew OT manuscript waswritten no earlier than 916 AD! Long after the events of the OT. There arenumerous other OT codices. One dated no older than the 10[SUP]th[/SUP] centuryAD. These and many others have been available for Bible translation and textualanalysis long before 1948.
It was in that year the Dead Scrolls were discovered.Many OT writings were among the findings. A complete parchment scroll of Isaiahwas found. The Dead Sea Scrolls of the OT are older than the ones that wereused by scholars prior to 1948. In fact, they date back to several hundredyears before the birth of Jesus! Well, we must ask, did the Dead Scrolls tellthe same story as the OT manuscripts and codices that had been available to thescholars prior to 1948? If you used the Dead Scrolls to produce an Englishtranslation of the OT, and I used the younger documents, we would come up withthe same story, the same words.
I know this is all confusing. But I hope it helps.
 
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hi dear, the word of God in the bible is true , because every story is relate to our situation life, and when u pray to God Jesus , u can feel him , what is write inside , we are experience it everyday, God speak abt HOLY GHOST , and HOLY GHOST exist because its the spirit of GOd , and the evidence that everythg is true in the BIBLE. DID U EVER HEZR SOMEONE SPEAK IN TONGUES? wel its the evidence that what is write its true :) read acts chap 2 :) hope u catch what i mean to say GOD bless u :)
Hinduism, boudism... are idols , they have eyes but they don't see u , ears have they but the hear u not , mouth have they but they speak not ( psalm 116) ;)
 
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I have many thoughts and opinions on it but after reading what alot of post on this site I do not no what is right or wrong. I doubt I ever will. I have heard to many opinions and facts to really make up my mind. There seems to be alot of evidence in the favor of god and against.

I suppose in away I feel as though the Bible could be wrong or misinterpreted (just a thought)
Okay i am probably going to get a little grief from this but check out the left behind series. Not for the pre-trib/post-trib debate but because it really puts the scripture into words that i understood. It was like a light clicked as i was reading the first book, and i repented and have walked with Jesus everyday since. I know it's a fictional story, but they way the characters explained the scripture to people like me then and you now, it answered a lot of my questions.
 
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how can anybody know that the bible is true when it was written so long ago with many different versions all contradicted each other. It is also not the only ancient religious book that has been written so why not believe them, surely some one is wrong. How do you know that Buddhism,Islam, Hinduism or maybe one of the Greek gods (Zeus, Apollo Posidian) or maybe a Norse god (viking).

P.S. please no " you need to have faith" or "your wrong because it is/isn't in the bible" answer
To the opening post. One has to see the relevance of the earthy things to see the relevance of the heavenly things. If you cannot understand the truth of creation, you’ll never understand the truth of the Gospel. That's how you know. Jesus asks this rhetorical question.

John 3:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

It's up to you, and you alone. All depends if you are sincere about knowing. Don't ask others if your not. It won't do any good.
 
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honestly i was just like you, until well i got changed, i use to wonder " what if im just wasting my life, i don't know what is real" ( before God saved me of course) i mean how can anyone know and really FEEEL what is the truth? they are more than 1000 religions how can anyone know what is real, i was never like this, living a christian life was just another guy " enjoying " his life a lot of parties smoking not really caring about anything, until something happen to me, i had a near death experience then reality hit me like a ton of bricks " I COULD'VE DIED! where would i had gone? " so after that i was determined to find out what the truth is ( i grew up in a christian home but i wasn't really into it) so i went and confess all my wrong doings to my mom, and went to church, then something miraculous happen, i was determined to change and find an anwser i literally surrendered my life to God at church and when i did something supernatural happen that i never experienced in my life..in this event that was taking place it like hit me off of my feet and i started weeping on the floor ( im not someone who would cry just like that) and was crying out thank you jesus, i didn't know why but i was and couldn't help myself, then after church was over this hunger came over me like never before i just had to knew Jesus and know about him never felt nothing like that in my life was like i hadn't eaten in weeks, so i went home and start reading the bible, then i notice something different, it was like it was completely magnified i understood exactly what everything was saying then i came across this verse 2 Corinthians 5:17

King James Version (KJV)

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

i understood that this had happen to me, but honestly the only way we can truely understand what is real is from a spiritual birth, this is my prayer for you but you gotta want it first, it's a free gift and to me the biggest evidence to tell what is real is, we are all gentiles and the bible says we do the things contained in the law( commandments) so after looking at this the commandment have 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain

take a good look at it, it may seem like a small deal but really take a look at it, and look at the world every single person even atheist, muslims everyone cannot help themselves but say J**** Ch*** i didn't want to say it but you get what i am saying, why do they say that name? why not John brown or something? do you see what i am getting at? just remember this and when you go to work or something or even watch a movie i'm sure you will find this God bless
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AMEN! My Christian brother from Barbados. BlackShuck please read this too. I too personally know that broken, crushed by guilt, feeling in my heart, and weeping like a baby, and crying out to GOD.

I used to think that just going to Church once in awhile made me a Christian, even though I day dreamed through every sermon. Someone should have told me back then, that sitting in a Church did not make me a Christian any more than sitting in a Garage would make me a car. Back in the early 70s, I got caught up in the Party-Hardy lifestyle, drifting further and further into that sinful lifestyle, and stopped going to Church all together. At one all night party, I met young woman my age and in a whirlwind romance we were talking marriage in a few weeks, for all the wrong reasons. We got married after knowing each other for only 6 months, AND 6 months after that, on Christmas Eve no less, she demanded a divorce because she said I could not earn enough money to buy her the things she wanted in life. Honest that is the reason she gave me; and I worked full time for the Post Office.

I knew it was a serious thing to break a vow to GOD, even a marriage vow. The bottom dropped out of my entire life, and emotionally I hit bottom hard, drowning in depression. {Before I tell you what happened next; PLEASE, NO ONE attempt to do what I DID. GOD SHOULD HAVE LET ME DIE THAT WEEK after Christmas, because I did know the Bible said: "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord your GOD".} In that deep depression, I felt like a TOTAL failure, because I could do NOTHING to save my marriage, because of money. The immense hurt inside me, drove me to NOT want to see another day. I loaded a pistol, and I did not care if I hurt my parents, or my brothers and sister, nor anyone else. All I cared about was making sure the shot was FATAL. I put that pistol to my temple, and then . . . hatred for the hurt she was causing me, added another sick twist to my plan. I called her up, because I wanted her to hear the shot, to just get even with her. I put that pistol back against my temple, and started to pull that trigger. THEN to my SHOCK, with the trigger half pulled, SHEAR TERROR overwhelmed me. I was not afraid to die, in fact ceasing to exist was a pleasing thought to me at that time. BUT THIS TERROR, was way beyond what a man with a knife to my throat could cause. I knew it was because I was standing in the doorway to Hades and HELL, about to walk in; AND I KNEW HELL WAS FOREVER. In a panic I put the pistol down and hung up the phone. Two nights later, I tried it again without the phone call, and the exact same TERROR overwhelmed me.

The next night I tried a third attempt. That afternoon, I saw a road crew pouring a thick layer of fresh gravel on a dirt road. I had that night off at work, the 29th of December, 1978. So I went to a bar and started drinking early. I kept thinking about that dirt road as I got drunker and drunker. I knew the most dangerous surface to ride a motorcycle on was loose gravel, so by closing time I had me a sure fire plan to arrange a fatal accident for myself. I drove my car home, THANK GOD I did not run over somebody. I fired up my dirt bike and deliberately left my helmet home.

As I approached the beginning of that loose gravel mile, riding drunker than I had ever been; I cranked the throttle wide open. I shamefully looked up at the sky and taunted God, "If you want me, you can take me anywhere you want on this mile, because I do not want to live to see another day!" I hit the start of that mile with no helmet, leaning over the handle bars to make sure I hit head first, at wide open 65 mph. The dirt bike did not even wobble, and it felt like I was riding on smooth pavement. At the half mile mark, I even shook my head and thought what's going on here; while checking to make sure the throttle was still wide open. Finally I hit the end of that mile and was back on the pavement. I backed off on the throttle and slowly rode the two miles back to home.

That was about 1:30 AM when I got home, and I sat up the rest of the night, sobering up and thinking about what had happened. About 5:00 AM as I was walking into my bed room, it happened. SUDDENLY I realized that I cannot ride a dirt bike like that, even sober; and I KNEW GOD HAD REACHED DOWN AND GRABBED THAT BIKE AS IF TO SAY, "NO YOU DON'T, I HAVE A PLAN FOR YOUR LIFE." In a flash, something in me BROKE, and I think it was the pride in running my own life, my own way. Then a rush of guilt over my utter sinfulness came in and washed over me. I found myself on my knees weeping like a baby, crying out to GOD, "Lord forgive me! If you have a purpose for my life, You will have to come into my heart and You will have to run my life, because I can't do it. I am making a total mess of it."

That is the night I was born again. DID HE COME INTO MY HEART? OH MY YES! He changed me from the inside out. He made me sick of my Country Music one night at work, and I changed the radio channel, and discovered we had a Christian Radio Station. Dr. John MacArthur was just starting a series on Revelations, on his "Grace To You" radio program. I genuinely was hearing the WORD taught for the first time in my life, and it was exciting, and I hungered for more, and more. He brought a godly woman into my life and a year later we married; now 34 years and counting. He put it on my heart to move us west and I did not know why?

To make a long story short, I found He wanted me to start a Prison Ministry at Pelican Bay State Prison near Crescent City, CA. I was a Volunteer Chaplain there for 9 years, and then later for 6 more years, at another Prison near Susanville, CA. Though I am retired now, and moved to be near grandchildren, as they grew up; I still enjoy discussing the Bible and encouraging others with my testimony. Like I said before; PLEASE do not test the LORD as I did, because I believe with my whole heart, He had the right to just let me kill myself. ONLY because of HIS MERCY and GRACE am I here to tell my story.

What I know for sure that I did that night, was one, repent and MOURN over my total sinfulness, not just for attempting suicide. And then the most important part, I totally surrendered control of my life to Jesus Christ as my LORD, willingly accepting HIM as my MASTER and KING.

Psalm 51:17 (NIV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.

Psalm 34:18 (NKJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] The LORD is near to those who have a broken heart, And saves such as have a contrite spirit.

John 1:12-13 (NKJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those
who believe in His name
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[SUP]13 [/SUP] who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Colossians 2:6 (NIV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in Him,
 
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mhm....
then how do they explain the fossils of trees that were fossilized directly vertical between several "million years" of fossil sedimentary? Scientists can't explain it. Can you?
the earth recycles its surface burying larger matter e.g. stone, fossils. I do not study it but I am pretty sure they know exactly who this proccess happens its the same when undergroud stone is worn down by water or other stones it is the pushed to the surface. That is were most of the minarals in the soil come from.
 
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Well, it makes sense, first of all, that you haven't seen most of what Jesus did anywhere else. If you did, it would undercut the whole point of Jesus doing those things in the gospels - to witness to his authority as the Christ.

Your concern - that the things Jesus did were exaggerated - is possible, but one has to consider how such exaggerations could have come about, and in what circumstances. Most scholars - even sceptical ones - would conclude that the written records we have of the life of Jesus were written within a lifetime of him. Certainly, things like the crucifixion and resurrection are the central point of the gospels - they make little sense if you take those things out, which would seem to indicate that such beliefs about Jesus were quite early.

Would it make a difference to your belief in Christianity if you had good reason to believe that the resurrection of Jesus was probable, and at the very least occurred quite similarly to how it was recorded in the gospel accounts?
The prefect example here is room at school. one kid sees some body get pushed by another kid then end of the day everybody thinks the two kids were in a brawl and both in hospital. It happens all the time you see it everyday in the paper with one thing or another. You will do yourself with out realising.

Yes it would change what I believe quite a lot
 
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The bible is definitively not a scientific book but a collection of spiritual books written thousand years ago by different authors. These inspired authors tried to interpret the manifestation of the Spirit according to the knowledge of their epochs. They had no interest in science. Scientists, on the other hand, tried to model the physical manifestation of this world according to their epochs. In fact, most scientific theories are wrong at the start of their initial modelling process.

If you are unsure about God then you should ask him directly: “Lord if you are real show me somehow”. As it is written: “If you seek me with all your heart I will let you find me”.
I tried many times years ago and I never got a reply
 
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There is a lot of evidence of many sorts and types thatshow (prove to me) that the Bible is (is what it claims to be: that it isinspired by God) is true.
1. Fulfillment of prophecy. Read the first three chapters of Matthew. Underlineall the prophecies fulfilled just in those chapters.

2. The resurrection of Jesus. How do you answer the emptyof Jesus? Remember, your answer must be reasonable. That is it must take intoaccount what the gospels say about Jesus’ death and burial and resurrection.Yes, you can say someone stole the body. But with that you will have to (if youare sincere and honest) who would steal the body. How would they steal thebody? What would be the purpose? You would have to compare your answer to whatpeople did before Jesus was crucified and after He was crucified. You will haveto consider the book of Acts, the threats made against the disciples of Jesus. Onand on.
3. The Lord’s Supper. From whence came the Lord’s Supper?It is a memorial supper that is related to the death of Jesus. How did it comeabout? Check first century writers, they refer to it.
4. The conversion of Saul of Tarsus in Acts 9. How wouldyou answer that incident? A well to do man, a powerful individual, aninfluential individual gives it all up for Jesus. Remember, though, Saul didnot at one time believe Jesus was the Messiah? What changed Saul’s mind?
The documents, manuscripts, papyri, the codices, theversions, all of different dates from different places all writing about thesame subject. Consider that at one time the oldest Hebrew OT manuscript waswritten no earlier than 916 AD! Long after the events of the OT. There arenumerous other OT codices. One dated no older than the 10[SUP]th[/SUP] centuryAD. These and many others have been available for Bible translation and textualanalysis long before 1948.
It was in that year the Dead Scrolls were discovered.Many OT writings were among the findings. A complete parchment scroll of Isaiahwas found. The Dead Sea Scrolls of the OT are older than the ones that wereused by scholars prior to 1948. In fact, they date back to several hundredyears before the birth of Jesus! Well, we must ask, did the Dead Scrolls tellthe same story as the OT manuscripts and codices that had been available to thescholars prior to 1948? If you used the Dead Scrolls to produce an Englishtranslation of the OT, and I used the younger documents, we would come up withthe same story, the same words.
I know this is all confusing. But I hope it helps.
2.Yes It is very difficult to explain the empty tomb of Jesus. I imagine the only reason that his body may have been removed was so he could have been buried / cremated some were else by his disiples
3. I have know answer unless the time scale was confused which I suppose is unlikey
4. Again no answer
 
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hi dear, the word of God in the bible is true , because every story is relate to our situation life, and when u pray to God Jesus , u can feel him , what is write inside , we are experience it everyday, God speak abt HOLY GHOST , and HOLY GHOST exist because its the spirit of GOd , and the evidence that everythg is true in the BIBLE. DID U EVER HEZR SOMEONE SPEAK IN TONGUES? wel its the evidence that what is write its true :) read acts chap 2 :) hope u catch what i mean to say GOD bless u :)
Hinduism, boudism... are idols , they have eyes but they don't see u , ears have they but the hear u not , mouth have they but they speak not ( psalm 116) ;)
What actually does it mean to speak in tounges I thought that was something that you saw in the movies
 
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To the opening post. One has to see the relevance of the earthy things to see the relevance of the heavenly things. If you cannot understand the truth of creation, you’ll never understand the truth of the Gospel. That's how you know. Jesus asks this rhetorical question.

John 3:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

It's up to you, and you alone. All depends if you are sincere about knowing. Don't ask others if your not. It won't do any good.
So I am screwed then
 
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When you come to know Christ, you will be saying, you are blessed. you are only screwed until you get un screwed, if it can screw, it can un screw. Jesus loves you and is there with open arms to receive you, but its your choice, Jesus won't force you He's waiting patiently. As for how can it be proven, how can one prove their experience? they can't, if i told you what an orange taste like, and you had never had an orange, you would not know what the orange taste like till you tried it.
 
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how can anybody know that the bible is true when it was written so long ago with many different versions all contradicted each other. It is also not the only ancient religious book that has been written so why not believe them, surely some one is wrong. How do you know that Buddhism,Islam, Hinduism or maybe one of the Greek gods (Zeus, Apollo Posidian) or maybe a Norse god (viking).

P.S. please no " you need to have faith" or "your wrong because it is/isn't in the bible" answer
Its very simple...u just have to read all the holy books. If God has given u the spirit to accept the right one you will definitely understand the bible. if not, u will find other books interesting and genuine..

If u are not an atheist, then u can pray to God and ask him to reveal his identity to u. Of course he will give u understanding, and will not mislead you.
 
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To the opening post. One has to see the relevance of the earthy things to see the relevance of the heavenly things. If you cannot understand the truth of creation, you’ll never understand the truth of the Gospel. That's how you know. Jesus asks this rhetorical question

John 3:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

It's up to you, and you alone. All depends if you are sincere about knowing. Don't ask others if your not. It won't do any good.
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So I am screwed then

Not if you are sincere about wanting to know. You don't want to really screw yourself over, do you? Look at nature for starters. See the way a seed germinates. It has to die first. That's what Christ did, yet the seed sprouts new life, and that's what Christ did. The germination of the seed becomes a plant and produces fruit like in relationship to your local grocery store.

In Spiritual terms, that is called the "Fruit of the Spirit" with attributes of Love, joy, peace, endurance, gentleness, goodness, faith, the strength of direction, and self-control. There's a positive spin for you to consider. May God bless you in this understanding.
 
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2.Yes It is very difficult to explain the empty tomb of Jesus. I imagine the only reason that his body may have been removed was so he could have been buried / cremated some were else by his disiples
The disciples would not cremate the body. In fact, the disciples were threatened to death if they should keep preaching that Jesus was raised from the dead. What did they do before Jesus was crucified? They fled from Jesus. Peter denied Jesus three times. If Jesus had not been buried and raised, they would not have then gone out and preached in the name of Jesus, especially seeing they feared for their lives before Jesus was crucified.
3. I have know answer unless the time scale was confused which I suppose is unlikey[/QUOTE]
The Lord's Supper is evidence for the accuracy and truthfulness of the Bible. Do you believe Abraham Lincoln existed and was the sixteenth president of the US. You can look to the Lincoln memorial as one piece of evidence that he did live and was president. Likewise the Lord's Supper evidences that Jesus lived and was crucified for our sins.
4. Again no answer[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your honesty and your sincerity. Please read Acts 9. What accounts for Saul's change from a life filled with power and prestige to one filled with suffering and pain for Jesus.
 
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I tried many times years ago and I never got a reply
BlackShuck,

You will not a ever get a reply. What would it be? What would it consist of? Not even Saul of Tarsus prayed to God for such a thing. It is subjective and can't be proven, and God does not do that. Mormons will tell you the same thing. "How can I know the book of Mormon is from God?" They answer: "The Holy Spirit will reveal to you that it is." What?

The Bible was written so that you could come to believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of the Living God. Search the scriptures, they testify of Jesus.
 
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You test it.

For me...I tested what the Holy Bible stated regarding physical things (like creation, etc.), and when I saw that what it said matched modern science, I then had no trouble trusting it when it came to statements regarding the non-physical.
Seek and ye shall find. If someone is serious about seeking the truth, they will ultimately be found and Jesus The Christ will reveal himself. The first revelation may be illumination of Jesus throughout the Bible.