How did we get to the massacre in Las Vegas?

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hornetguy

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I have already suggestedd you start your own thread.

You do not seem to have the wits bout you to remain on topic of this thread.

Is being Jewish something that annoys you?

I am not Jewish, but I do believe I am adopted into the Issrael of God, a fellow heir with all Israel. I bet this hurts your feelings against Jews.

Jesus was a Jew you know of Israel? He is also King of the Jews. Is He your King? Then perhaps you are a Jew.

Remember being Jew or not, it is the faith in Jesus that saves us all........I know because He said so. Read that in the Word.

Now, cease to imply or teach to me me that obedience is wrong, that is a true sin, forgiveable, but still a sin.

Stop stalking me, and stop making up tales about me. The Father of lies is Satan.... He was disobedient.





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Thank you for so thoroughly proving my point.
 

JaumeJ

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Please stop this habit of stalking....... It is unnecessary and unpleasant.

You brought your old bugaboo subject into a thread on the killings in Las Vegas. Not a nice thing to do, especially when you bring it in with prefabrications on the faith of tohers. You seem to be a judge and not one of the forgiven.
 

SovereignGrace

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maybe some people understand that scorning the natural laws put in effect by their Creator leads to some of the chaos

as far as gun control goes, like my husband says, ban all forks cause they make people fat :p

 

Locutus

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It's all the gays with forks stabbing people....
 

willfollowsGod

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Americans are more concerned with gay cakes than gun control.
I as a Christian am not obsessed with homosexual ceremony cakes and it is a valid concern because it is in our faces daily nowadays and we need to take a stand out of love for God first and then, man. As a result of that I believe that Christians should be allowed to have freedom of association and freedom of expression in the marketplace. That means if a Christian baker, florist, etc does not want to do a certain thing that violates their conscience, the customers who want this done can go to another place that can accommodate them in this regard without suing the pants off of those who disagree with them. Those who do that are evil and it is wrong. When they do that they are discriminating against the Christian baker, florist, etc contrary to what the pro-LGBTQRSTUV says. Thanks. God bless. :)
 

willfollowsGod

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Are not believers to expose the truth to the world? Rhetorically, doesn't it seem as though we have failed for the last 4 generations, at the least? Looks to me as if we Christians have been lukewarm for quite some time, but no one can do it signal handedly. Maybe the Las Vegas thing is a wake up call because we fail to see what God wants us to see?



We go to church inclusively, propagating introvert behaviour when we should be extroverts.
There is nothing wrong with being an introvert. Sadly, there are church cliques when that should not be so. I never wish to be an extrovert. People exhaust me and I need my alone time and a lot of it. Thanks. God bless. :)
 

Nehemiah6

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I think one of the Greatest deceptions is the American dream...
You omitted one critical word which is "betrayal". so your statement should be "I think one of the Greatest deceptions is the BETRAYAL OF the American dream...

Those who have taken power in Washington, D.C. as well as in the state legislatures have been betraying their constituents year after year after year. Take Obamacare as an example. The Heritage Foundation researched this issue and presented an excellent solution to the problems. Yet to this day the poiticians were unwilling to implement a proper and equitable health care policy.

The opposite of the American Dream is ruthless Communism, spineless Socialism, or plain and simple anarchy (including Islamic Jihad). So anyone who claims that the American Dream is a deception should buy a one-way ticket to either China or North Korea (or even neighboring Cuba or Venezuela).
 
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You omitted one critical word which is "betrayal". so your statement should be "I think one of the Greatest deceptions is the BETRAYAL OF the American dream...

Those who have taken power in Washington, D.C. as well as in the state legislatures have been betraying their constituents year after year after year. Take Obamacare as an example. The Heritage Foundation researched this issue and presented an excellent solution to the problems. Yet to this day the poiticians were unwilling to implement a proper and equitable health care policy.

The opposite of the American Dream is ruthless Communism, spineless Socialism, or plain and simple anarchy (including Islamic Jihad). So anyone who claims that the American Dream is a deception should buy a one-way ticket to either China or North Korea (or even neighboring Cuba or Venezuela).
Why are you posturing the USA as some sort of God mandated theocracy? When the USA has never been, nor ever will be a theocracy?

Ecclesiastes tells us there is nothing new under the sun.
 
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He_reigns

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The " dead" sandy hook massacre children were at the superbowl halftime show.

...and honored in front of the crowd. The parents of the "dead" children were laughing off camera.

About 100 houses had their mortgage paid in full surrounding the school. Free houses from the government to go along with the fake "massacre"

9 - 11 was done by the gov. The towers were taken down with thermite. You can see the molten steel with sparks pouring from the building.


Before the Las Vegas massacre. A " Hispanic couple" (Muslims?) were removed from the property telling revelers" you are all going to die"
I do not buy into anything you are saying and I will say this.

As far as Las Vegas goes, anyone militarily trained in the physics of field of fire and Surveillance and Target Acquisition, should have seen all the red flags and should not be duped by the red herring called Stephen Paddock.

The sound of the weapon system alone gives an experienced ear, knowledge.
 
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Why are you posturing the USA as some sort of God mandated theocracy? When the USA has never been, nor ever will be a theocracy?

Ecclesiastes tells us there is nothing new under the sun.
Yeah we all "Appreciate" the peace in America but it is not because of anthems,or documents that America is still around God has his hand in all nations,I understand the American dream is great but one should remember how it's possible to even dream in the first place.
 

Nehemiah6

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Why are you posturing the USA as some sort of God mandated theocracy? When the USA has never been, nor ever will be a theocracy?
Since I did not use the word "theocracy" you have made an incorrect assumption. There will be no theocracy on earth until after the second coming of Christ. In the meantime, the American Constitution and form of government is second to none, and the Founding Fathers honored and reverenced God and the Bible. That cannot be said for any other government. Had those who succeeded the Founding Fathers been true patriots, we would not be seeing the hatred for good government that is presently manifesting itself in treason and anarchy.

Christians must live under secular governments while they go about their business. Christians are not called to promote Dominionism or to take control of governments. So when you look around all the governmental systems of the world, American Christians should consider themselves fortunate and thank God for the freedoms that they do have (which are now being eroded daily).
 
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He_reigns

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Since I did not use the word "theocracy" you have made an incorrect assumption. There will be no theocracy on earth until after the second coming of Christ. In the meantime, the American Constitution and form of government is second to none, and the Founding Fathers honored and reverenced God and the Bible. That cannot be said for any other government. Had those who succeeded the Founding Fathers been true patriots, we would not be seeing the hatred for good government that is presently manifesting itself in treason and anarchy.

Christians must live under secular governments while they go about their business. Christians are not called to promote Dominionism or to take control of governments. So when you look around all the governmental systems of the world, American Christians should consider themselves fortunate and thank God for the freedoms that they do have (which are now being eroded daily).
The USA is not immune from the kingdom coming. Stop posturing it as such. The USA must fall so that Israel can come back to God and not have a big brother watching after them.
 

Nehemiah6

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The USA is not immune from the kingdom coming. Stop posturing it as such. The USA must fall so that Israel can come back to God and not have a big brother watching after them.
I am certainly not posturing, since I am just presenting facts. At present the American system of government and its Constitution are second to none, and if the politicians and officials in government would seriously uphold the Constitution, you would not have the current promotion of sin and evil in government. The Constitution does not guarantee abortion or same-sex marriage (for example) but the Supreme Court has also betrayed the Constitution and the people in this matter.

Yes, all the nations of the world will be subject to God's judgments, and the USA will not be an exception. In the meantime, Christians are not to contribute to the "fall" of the USA, since that is the specialty of traitors and anarchists. Instead, Christians are to pray for those in authority, and for the nation, and vote according to their Christian principles. God was prepared to wipe out Israel in the wilderness, but Moses interceded for them. There's a lesson there for us.
 
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its interesting that if Gods covenant Law was accepted and followed by mankind, things Like Murder, adultery which destroys families, rape, jihad, theft and larseny, and basically all the evils of society would never happen. yet so many christians will argue against the " validity" of the ten commandments the covenant Law.

free will of those with the Knowledge of both good and evil leads to things like this, nothing more, nothing Less. there is Both Good and evil in this world, and the further we get from the conmmandments as a Moral fabric, a moral foundation....evil grows more prevelant. even over the past 50 years look at the mass increase of individuals who commoit these types of acts, not looking at wars that have existed through time, but individuals who commit these types of acts. along with the decline of Godly principles made clear in His Word, and the spread of ideological propoganda such as Jihadi beliefs, isis propoganda, the mass spreading of hate ideology and false religion.


there is so much evudence that the Mind of individual people is influenced, and indoctrinated by the evils of these tyopes of things, in correlation with the decline of people who will speak Godly principles because of political correctness and fear of being labeled an extremist religious nut, because they believe the ten commandments and forbidances of God, along with His instructions of How to treat others are applicable and required. the issue is moral decline through ideologies, propoganda, false religion, athiestic beliefs of No divine authority or Judge, No real accountability, even extreme "grace" doctrines contribute to these things.


the Morality of mankind, continues its decline as Gods Word is seperated further and further from acceptable speech in the eyes of the many. weve reached a time where individual opinions and judgements outwiegh Gods Judgements of good and evil in the majorities minds. the majority for example believe in gay marriage as an acceptable thing, where as clearly God says its an abomination. freedom of religion Has become freedom from all religious Morals and ideals. this is the Only result when people forsake thier creators Word and standard of treating others His way. so many things God clearly says are wrong, are embraced in the name of " rights" and " freedom" and so Many things God clearly says are right and good are Looked upon as oppresive and extremism.


society is being bamboozled by satans clever seeds, deceived By His word disguised as humanism. There will be a day when the World operates accoring to the will of God, the New world were promised will be a deliverance from this world that is fading into abyss rapidly. all that can be done in a situation Like this is for people to turn Back to Gods ways and stop trying to " progress" the acceptability of ideas anbd values contrary to Gods eternal Word. we will all face that Word in the End regardless of How we voted or Lobbied for change of acceptable values, we should learn and Live Gods word and ways above all else.
 

hornetguy

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Please stop this habit of stalking....... It is unnecessary and unpleasant.

You brought your old bugaboo subject into a thread on the killings in Las Vegas. Not a nice thing to do, especially when you bring it in with prefabrications on the faith of tohers. You seem to be a judge and not one of the forgiven.
I'm out of this.... this thread has officially drifted out to where the buses don't run....
 
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Yes killing is wrong, but what does the bible say to do about someone
who "commits murder" ? and how can we help prevent more such murders?
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Prove,

'preventing'? this obviously is NOT a PRIORITY in our society - s...