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you do realize that when you post these verses like this, lacking any commentary support (aside from what appears to be a rather prideful attitude) you are abusing scripture?
these aren't your words, and you might consider whether you are really in a position to identify wisdom or righteousness. the scriptures are holy words to me, not something that ought to be used as a reactionary dig against someone.
Proverbs 10:31
The froward tongue shall be cut out—This probably alludes to the punishment of cutting out the tongue for blasphemy, treasonable speeches, profane swearing, or such like. The tunge of schrewis schal perishen.—Old MS. Bible. Were the tongue of every shrew or scold to be extracted, we should soon have much less noise in the world.
Proverbs 10:32
The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable—And what they believe to be most pleasing and most profitable, that they speak, but the wicked man knows as well what is perverse, and that he speaketh forth. As the love of God is not in his heart, so the law of kindness is not on his lips.
The froward tongue shall be cut out—This probably alludes to the punishment of cutting out the tongue for blasphemy, treasonable speeches, profane swearing, or such like. The tunge of schrewis schal perishen.—Old MS. Bible. Were the tongue of every shrew or scold to be extracted, we should soon have much less noise in the world.
Proverbs 10:32
The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable—And what they believe to be most pleasing and most profitable, that they speak, but the wicked man knows as well what is perverse, and that he speaketh forth. As the love of God is not in his heart, so the law of kindness is not on his lips.
Naysayer - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
nay·say·er
noun \ˈnā-ˌsā-ər, -ˌser\: a person who says something will not work or is not possible : a person who denies, refuses, or opposes something
Full Definition of NAYSAYER
: one who denies, refuses, opposes, or is skeptical or cynical about something
nay·say·er
noun \ˈnā-ˌsā-ər, -ˌser\: a person who says something will not work or is not possible : a person who denies, refuses, or opposes something
Full Definition of NAYSAYER
: one who denies, refuses, opposes, or is skeptical or cynical about something
so you show godly wisdom and discernment by going on the offensive, with scripture bombs and attacking people?
i think YOUR actions are betraying your motivation and spirit, sir, and i think we should all aspire for better than that.
finally, the fact that you even are aware of having "naysayers" should give you reason to pause. we are all on the same side (conceivably) and the fact that you seem to be on a different one makes me wonder about your motivation altogether.
By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another. john 13:35
copying someone's commentary about the scripture isn't what i was talking about. what i am referencing is why do you feel entitled to use a verse about "words of righteousness" (or lack thereof)?
posting verses about the evils of the tongue (or its published commentary) neither justifies your action nor shows any understanding on your part about what kind of behavior this is referencing.
ironically, i find that you seem to be posting scripture that seems to condemn "your case" more than help it.
i think YOUR actions are betraying your motivation and spirit, sir, and i think we should all aspire for better than that.
finally, the fact that you even are aware of having "naysayers" should give you reason to pause. we are all on the same side (conceivably) and the fact that you seem to be on a different one makes me wonder about your motivation altogether.
By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another. john 13:35
copying someone's commentary about the scripture isn't what i was talking about. what i am referencing is why do you feel entitled to use a verse about "words of righteousness" (or lack thereof)?
posting verses about the evils of the tongue (or its published commentary) neither justifies your action nor shows any understanding on your part about what kind of behavior this is referencing.
ironically, i find that you seem to be posting scripture that seems to condemn "your case" more than help it.
I have seen this young man's posts for the last few years on subjects like these, & they're all the same. I used the Word instead of my own opinions, & get blasted for it. Mind you, no amount of psychological projection will change anything.
As for playing the 'love' card......... It's true that love covers a multitude of sins (1 Peter 4:8), but it never makes excuse for them.
2 Timothy 4:1-4 (KJV) [SUP]1 [/SUP]I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; [SUP]2 [/SUP]Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; [SUP]4 [/SUP]And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
As for playing the 'love' card......... It's true that love covers a multitude of sins (1 Peter 4:8), but it never makes excuse for them.
2 Timothy 4:1-4 (KJV) [SUP]1 [/SUP]I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; [SUP]2 [/SUP]Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; [SUP]4 [/SUP]And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Well here's some Scripture about King Saul (read 1 Samuel 10:6-7 and 1 Samuel 10:9-11), who after being annointed by Samuel the prophet, was changed and filled with the Holy Spirit.
However, due to his disobedience to God , he not only lost all his blessing and annointing, but the Spirit of God left him and he was tormented by an evil spirit.
Studying the life of Saul, then is an example of what happens when God is with someone but as you can see, people are human and can still sin.
I think your question, how can we "feel" the Holy Spirit is like asking how can we "feel" God. It is such a personal thing that people can't put it into words clearly.
It's like asking people why they believe in God. Some people might have logical answers, but I would tell you everything has to be rooted in faith.
And the Bible tells us this about faith
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Here's the scripture on Saul -
1 Samuel 10:6-7
The Spirit of the Lord will come powerfully upon you, and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different person.7 Once these signs are fulfilled, do whatever your hand finds to do, for God is with you.
1 Samuel 10:9-11
As Saul turned to leave Samuel, God changed Saul’s heart, and all these signs were fulfilled that day.10 When he and his servant arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came powerfully upon him, and he joined in their prophesying.11 When all those who had formerly known him saw him prophesying with the prophets, they asked each other, “What is this that has happened to the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?”
However, due to his disobedience to God , he not only lost all his blessing and annointing, but the Spirit of God left him and he was tormented by an evil spirit.
Studying the life of Saul, then is an example of what happens when God is with someone but as you can see, people are human and can still sin.
I think your question, how can we "feel" the Holy Spirit is like asking how can we "feel" God. It is such a personal thing that people can't put it into words clearly.
It's like asking people why they believe in God. Some people might have logical answers, but I would tell you everything has to be rooted in faith.
And the Bible tells us this about faith
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Here's the scripture on Saul -
1 Samuel 10:6-7
The Spirit of the Lord will come powerfully upon you, and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different person.7 Once these signs are fulfilled, do whatever your hand finds to do, for God is with you.
1 Samuel 10:9-11
As Saul turned to leave Samuel, God changed Saul’s heart, and all these signs were fulfilled that day.10 When he and his servant arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came powerfully upon him, and he joined in their prophesying.11 When all those who had formerly known him saw him prophesying with the prophets, they asked each other, “What is this that has happened to the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?”
How do I feel being filled with the Holy Spirit? I feel such peace and I feel thankful for the free gift of salvation - so thankful in fact that there are times I cry with joy not from sadness but true real joy.
I think a better question would have been what are the fruits of the Holy Spirit because once you are filled you can't stay the same. God loves us just the way we are and He accepts us when we come to Him, but God loves us too much to let us stay in our sinful nature so you will want to make changes in your life to get your life in tune with God. You will have the power and courage to do things with God you never would have done before.
A couple of examples for me was preaching a sermon which I never would have done before as I am terrified of public speaking. Currently God and I are working on my sin of gluttony which I am blogging about in Changing a Life Style. These are things I never would have done on my own and only because I know that God is with me do I even have the courage to do so now.
Being in step with God learning to hate sin, repent to the point of changing your mind about what you have been doing and turning away from that sin and as Jesus said Go and Sin No More....only this can be done with the Holy Spirit. As someone said earlier Sanctification is the work of a lifetime and can only be accomplished with the Holy Spirit's help.
I think a better question would have been what are the fruits of the Holy Spirit because once you are filled you can't stay the same. God loves us just the way we are and He accepts us when we come to Him, but God loves us too much to let us stay in our sinful nature so you will want to make changes in your life to get your life in tune with God. You will have the power and courage to do things with God you never would have done before.
A couple of examples for me was preaching a sermon which I never would have done before as I am terrified of public speaking. Currently God and I are working on my sin of gluttony which I am blogging about in Changing a Life Style. These are things I never would have done on my own and only because I know that God is with me do I even have the courage to do so now.
Being in step with God learning to hate sin, repent to the point of changing your mind about what you have been doing and turning away from that sin and as Jesus said Go and Sin No More....only this can be done with the Holy Spirit. As someone said earlier Sanctification is the work of a lifetime and can only be accomplished with the Holy Spirit's help.
Kerry, I am fully capable of answering this post as in...
Just answering the OP....
That which is born of the spirit is by it's very nature SPIRITUAL...
That which is born of the flesh is by it's very nature FLESHLY....
Now, having said that.....Paul told the church at Ephesus to be continually filled with the spirit and he uses a present, passive, imperative form of the verb which shows and sets forth the following...
a. shows a continual mode of action
b. The passive aspect shows and sets forth (what) has caused them to be CONTINUALLY filled
Verses 19-20 set forth the evidence of being continually filled and are know as subordinate clauses...
1. Speaking to yourselves in psalms, hymns and spiritual songs
2. Singing and making melody to the Lord in your mind
3. Giving thanks always for all things unto God dia Jesus
4. submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God
It is not about how it feels, yea, but rather it is about what you are doing...the above is the EVIDENCE of being CONTINUALLY FILLED with the SPIRIT....
Just answering the OP....
That which is born of the spirit is by it's very nature SPIRITUAL...
That which is born of the flesh is by it's very nature FLESHLY....
Now, having said that.....Paul told the church at Ephesus to be continually filled with the spirit and he uses a present, passive, imperative form of the verb which shows and sets forth the following...
a. shows a continual mode of action
b. The passive aspect shows and sets forth (what) has caused them to be CONTINUALLY filled
Verses 19-20 set forth the evidence of being continually filled and are know as subordinate clauses...
1. Speaking to yourselves in psalms, hymns and spiritual songs
2. Singing and making melody to the Lord in your mind
3. Giving thanks always for all things unto God dia Jesus
4. submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God
It is not about how it feels, yea, but rather it is about what you are doing...the above is the EVIDENCE of being CONTINUALLY FILLED with the SPIRIT....
My charismatic theology........so now I'm charismatic?
So now I belong to a "harmful sect", as in heretics?
I am Pentecostal, always have been. NEVER have I been a charismatic. You just judged me falsely, & labeled me a heretic.
Since you know so much about me, CHAPTER & VERSE PLEASE to affirm your judgement. If you cannot do so, you have just labeled yourself without my help.
Let's talk about ignorance....... EVEN Wikipedia, a secular online encyclopedia knows the difference between charismatic & Pentecostal, yet you don't.
It's a sad day when the world knows more about these things than the church does.....
So now I belong to a "harmful sect", as in heretics?
I am Pentecostal, always have been. NEVER have I been a charismatic. You just judged me falsely, & labeled me a heretic.
Since you know so much about me, CHAPTER & VERSE PLEASE to affirm your judgement. If you cannot do so, you have just labeled yourself without my help.
Let's talk about ignorance....... EVEN Wikipedia, a secular online encyclopedia knows the difference between charismatic & Pentecostal, yet you don't.
It's a sad day when the world knows more about these things than the church does.....
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From Wikipedia: The Charismatic Movement is the international trend of historically mainstream congregations adopting beliefs and practices similar to Pentecostals. Pentecostalism began in the early twentieth century. Its doctrinal distinctive was a dramatic encounter with God termed baptism with the Holy Spirit. This experience was one of empowerment for Christian life and service, and the evidence for having received this experience was speaking in other tongues. Before 1955, Pentecostal doctrinal distinctives were not embraced by the religious mainstream. If a church member or clergyman openly expressed such views, they would (either voluntarily or involuntarily) separate from their older denomination. The charismatic movement was a reversal of this previous pattern as those influenced by Pentecostal spirituality chose to remain in their original denominations.
Oh forgive me they only got their ideas from you. How silly I could miss such a grand distinction.
Oh forgive me they only got their ideas from you. How silly I could miss such a grand distinction.