Is vegetarianism wrong?

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psychomom

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be a vegetarian if you like.

but here's an interesting story from 1 Kings 17--

Now Elijah the Tishbite, who was of the settlers of Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the LORD, the God of Israel lives, before whom I stand, surely there shall be neither dew nor rain these years, except by my word.” The word of the LORD came to him, saying,
“Go away from here and turn eastward, and hide yourself by the brook Cherith, which is east of the Jordan.
“It shall be that you will drink of the brook, and I have commanded the ravens to provide for you there.”
So he went and did according to the word of the LORD, for he went and lived by the brook Cherith, which is east of the Jordan. The ravens brought him bread and meat in the morning and bread and meat in the evening, and he would drink from the brook.

is God opposed to mankind eating meat?
doesn't seem so, as He miraculously provided it for Elijah.
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This is not a way to live by. There are nutrients and vitamins that the body needs that vegetables do not provide. By the bible standards of vegetarianism it was used to cleans the body. It helps the body to get rid of impurities faster, and then once cleansed you were to go back to eating a normal diet of meat, vegetables, bread, and dairy.
If a person want to be a vegetarian, they must be very knowledgeable about food. there are certain vegetation that provide you with the same nutrients as being on a meat diet. Cows and gorillas are vegetarians and you see that they get plenty of protein like an elephant. We are people that are lovers of pleasure, and which we love to satisfy our taste buds, but our health is the very last thing on our list or mind. We can't wait for science to event a magic pill that make us healthy over-night. Burgers and fries are tasty but unhealthy, not because it is fattening, but the process ingredients in them. You can't get fat from natural foods that has only the natural ingredients in it. Oils like olive oil, red palm oil, and the other good oils you can gain weight from them but the next morning, that weight will be gone because the body digest them over-night. But if you have put some alien ingredients like manufactured and or genetic engineer ingredients, and which the brain isn't familiar with these ingredients, the body will try to eliminate them from the body or if to much, the body will storage them away with the fats, But when the body is hungry, they will not touch the fats because of these aliens, would make that person be malnutrition eventhough they don't look it, the body will not touch it and they will be just storing waste under the skin.

Although soy and meat are both rich in dietary protein, they differ greatly in nutritional content. Both soy and meat proteins are high-quality, complete proteins because they contain all of the essential amino acids your body requires daily. However, soy offers nutrients meat lacks, and vice versa. The type of protein that’s right for you depends on your health risks and food preferences. http://www.livestrong.com/article/240951-soy-protein-vs-meat-protein/

Spinach may not give you superhuman strength to fight off villains like Popeye's nemesis Bluto, but this leafy green and other foods containing iron can help you fight a different type of enemy -- iron-deficiency anemia.
Iron-deficiency anemia, the most common form of anemia, is a decrease in the number of red blood cells caused by too little iron. Without sufficient iron, your body can't produce enough hemoglobin, a substance in red blood cells that makes it possible for them to carry oxygen to the body's tissues. As a result, you may feel weak, tired, and irritable. Top Iron-Rich Foods List

“You can’t always tell if a person is malnourished with your eyes,” said Dr. Marinos Elia, a professor of clinical nutrition and metabolism at Southampton University. “People may be eating too much food, but they may not be eating enough fruits and vegetables.” http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19114067/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/many-britons-overweight-malnourished/#.U7ybjfldVd8


Because the Brazil nut is known to contain an allergen, the company also tested the product for human reaction, with the thought that the transgenic soybean might accidentally enter the human food supply. When tests showed that humans would react to the modified soybeans, the project was abandoned.
For some people this was good evidence that the system of testing genetically engineered foods works. But for some scientists and consumer groups, it raised the specter of allergens or other hazards that might slip through the safety net. Scientists know that some proteins, such as the one in the Brazil nut, can cause allergic reactions in humans, and they know how to test for these allergenic proteins. But the possibility exists that a novel protein with allergenic properties might turn up in an engineered food—just as it might in a new food produced by conventional means—and go undetected. Furthermore, critics say, the technique of moving genes across dramatically different species increases the likelihood of something going awry—either in the function of the inserted gene or in the function of the host DNA—raising the possibility of unanticipated health effects.
An allergy scare in 2000 centered around StarLink, a variety of genetically engineered corn approved by the U.S. government only for animal use because it showed some suspicious qualities, among them a tendency to break down slowly during digestion, a known characteristic of allergens. When StarLink found its way into taco shells, corn chips, and other foods, massive and costly recalls were launched to try to remove the corn from the food supply. Altered Food, GMOs, Genetically Modified Food - National Geographic
 
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Kerry

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If a person want to be a vegetarian, they must be very knowledgeable about food. there are certain vegetation that provide you with the same nutrients as being on a meat diet. Cows and gorillas are vegetarians and you see that they get plenty of protein like an elephant. We are people that are lovers of pleasure, and which we love to satisfy our taste buds, but our health is the very last thing on our list or mind. We can't wait for science to event a magic pill that make us healthy over-night. Burgers and fries are tasty but unhealthy, not because it is fattening, but the process ingredients in them. You can't get fat from natural foods that has only the natural ingredients in it. Oils like olive oil, red palm oil, and the other good oils you can gain weight from them but the next morning, that weight will be gone because the body digest them over-night. But if you have put some alien ingredients like manufactured and or genetic engineer ingredients, and which the brain isn't familiar with these ingredients, the body will try to eliminate them from the body or if to much, the body will storage them away with the fats, But when the body is hungry, they will not touch the fats because of these aliens, would make that person be malnutrition eventhough they don't look it, the body will not touch it and they will be just storing waste under the skin.

Although soy and meat are both rich in dietary protein, they differ greatly in nutritional content. Both soy and meat proteins are high-quality, complete proteins because they contain all of the essential amino acids your body requires daily. However, soy offers nutrients meat lacks, and vice versa. The type of protein that’s right for you depends on your health risks and food preferences. http://www.livestrong.com/article/240951-soy-protein-vs-meat-protein/

Spinach may not give you superhuman strength to fight off villains like Popeye's nemesis Bluto, but this leafy green and other foods containing iron can help you fight a different type of enemy -- iron-deficiency anemia.
Iron-deficiency anemia, the most common form of anemia, is a decrease in the number of red blood cells caused by too little iron. Without sufficient iron, your body can't produce enough hemoglobin, a substance in red blood cells that makes it possible for them to carry oxygen to the body's tissues. As a result, you may feel weak, tired, and irritable. Top Iron-Rich Foods List

“You can’t always tell if a person is malnourished with your eyes,” said Dr. Marinos Elia, a professor of clinical nutrition and metabolism at Southampton University. “People may be eating too much food, but they may not be eating enough fruits and vegetables.” http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19114067/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/many-britons-overweight-malnourished/#.U7ybjfldVd8


Because the Brazil nut is known to contain an allergen, the company also tested the product for human reaction, with the thought that the transgenic soybean might accidentally enter the human food supply. When tests showed that humans would react to the modified soybeans, the project was abandoned.
For some people this was good evidence that the system of testing genetically engineered foods works. But for some scientists and consumer groups, it raised the specter of allergens or other hazards that might slip through the safety net. Scientists know that some proteins, such as the one in the Brazil nut, can cause allergic reactions in humans, and they know how to test for these allergenic proteins. But the possibility exists that a novel protein with allergenic properties might turn up in an engineered food—just as it might in a new food produced by conventional means—and go undetected. Furthermore, critics say, the technique of moving genes across dramatically different species increases the likelihood of something going awry—either in the function of the inserted gene or in the function of the host DNA—raising the possibility of unanticipated health effects.
An allergy scare in 2000 centered around StarLink, a variety of genetically engineered corn approved by the U.S. government only for animal use because it showed some suspicious qualities, among them a tendency to break down slowly during digestion, a known characteristic of allergens. When StarLink found its way into taco shells, corn chips, and other foods, massive and costly recalls were launched to try to remove the corn from the food supply. Altered Food, GMOs, Genetically Modified Food - National Geographic
One question, do you eat organic veggies? If so do you know that it means they are grown with animal poop?
 
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kennethcadwell

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There are more vitamins that are in meat besides protein that the body needs.


Romans 14:2
One person's faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables.




If a person want to be a vegetarian, they must be very knowledgeable about food. there are certain vegetation that provide you with the same nutrients as being on a meat diet. Cows and gorillas are vegetarians and you see that they get plenty of protein like an elephant. We are people that are lovers of pleasure, and which we love to satisfy our taste buds, but our health is the very last thing on our list or mind. We can't wait for science to event a magic pill that make us healthy over-night. Burgers and fries are tasty but unhealthy, not because it is fattening, but the process ingredients in them. You can't get fat from natural foods that has only the natural ingredients in it. Oils like olive oil, red palm oil, and the other good oils you can gain weight from them but the next morning, that weight will be gone because the body digest them over-night. But if you have put some alien ingredients like manufactured and or genetic engineer ingredients, and which the brain isn't familiar with these ingredients, the body will try to eliminate them from the body or if to much, the body will storage them away with the fats, But when the body is hungry, they will not touch the fats because of these aliens, would make that person be malnutrition eventhough they don't look it, the body will not touch it and they will be just storing waste under the skin.

Although soy and meat are both rich in dietary protein, they differ greatly in nutritional content. Both soy and meat proteins are high-quality, complete proteins because they contain all of the essential amino acids your body requires daily. However, soy offers nutrients meat lacks, and vice versa. The type of protein that’s right for you depends on your health risks and food preferences. http://www.livestrong.com/article/240951-soy-protein-vs-meat-protein/

Spinach may not give you superhuman strength to fight off villains like Popeye's nemesis Bluto, but this leafy green and other foods containing iron can help you fight a different type of enemy -- iron-deficiency anemia.
Iron-deficiency anemia, the most common form of anemia, is a decrease in the number of red blood cells caused by too little iron. Without sufficient iron, your body can't produce enough hemoglobin, a substance in red blood cells that makes it possible for them to carry oxygen to the body's tissues. As a result, you may feel weak, tired, and irritable. Top Iron-Rich Foods List

“You can’t always tell if a person is malnourished with your eyes,” said Dr. Marinos Elia, a professor of clinical nutrition and metabolism at Southampton University. “People may be eating too much food, but they may not be eating enough fruits and vegetables.” http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19114067/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/many-britons-overweight-malnourished/#.U7ybjfldVd8


Because the Brazil nut is known to contain an allergen, the company also tested the product for human reaction, with the thought that the transgenic soybean might accidentally enter the human food supply. When tests showed that humans would react to the modified soybeans, the project was abandoned.
For some people this was good evidence that the system of testing genetically engineered foods works. But for some scientists and consumer groups, it raised the specter of allergens or other hazards that might slip through the safety net. Scientists know that some proteins, such as the one in the Brazil nut, can cause allergic reactions in humans, and they know how to test for these allergenic proteins. But the possibility exists that a novel protein with allergenic properties might turn up in an engineered food—just as it might in a new food produced by conventional means—and go undetected. Furthermore, critics say, the technique of moving genes across dramatically different species increases the likelihood of something going awry—either in the function of the inserted gene or in the function of the host DNA—raising the possibility of unanticipated health effects.
An allergy scare in 2000 centered around StarLink, a variety of genetically engineered corn approved by the U.S. government only for animal use because it showed some suspicious qualities, among them a tendency to break down slowly during digestion, a known characteristic of allergens. When StarLink found its way into taco shells, corn chips, and other foods, massive and costly recalls were launched to try to remove the corn from the food supply. Altered Food, GMOs, Genetically Modified Food - National Geographic
 
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One question, do you eat organic veggies? If so do you know that it means they are grown with animal poop?
Why didn't nobody had told me that, and now I'm upset....

Plants are different species, when you cut open an apple, do you smell poop? The unclean animals doesn't filter as well as the other animals, Pigs sweat glands isn't strong enough to filter the toxins from out of its body which makes it not good to eat.

A pig’s digestive system—unlike a cow’s—is not designed to filter toxins from its system. These toxins work their way through the pig and are deposited in the animal’s flesh—especially in its fat. The pig itself is actually able to sustain very high levels of toxins. As such, it can eat just about anything. In an effort to keep feed costs down, pig farmers will purchase garbage, such as rotting meat and vegetables, to feed them—and the pigs can be sustained with it. There is nothing in the animal’s digestive system, or the processing of the meat, that removes these toxins.
The time it takes for these things to be assimilated is more interesting. For most animals, this is a much slower process, taking perhaps 12 to 24 hours. This gives an animal’s digestive system time to filter toxins, poisons and deadly parasites from entering the bloodstream and being deposited in its flesh. Also, because many foods can build muscle, greater time is required for that muscle to form.
The same is not true for a pig. Much of what it eats can be assimilated much more quickly. Not only does this mean that toxins are not filtered, but also most of the flesh takes the form of fat! A Pig’s Tale
 
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There are more vitamins that are in meat besides protein that the body needs.


Romans 14:2
One person's faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables.
But where does these animals get their vitamins from?
 
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kennethcadwell

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You can not compare animals to us for their digestive system is different then ours.

Example: Some things that our healthy to us are poisonous to certain animals.

But where does these animals get their vitamins from?
 
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You can not compare animals to us for their digestive system is different then ours.

Example: Some things that our healthy to us are poisonous to certain animals.
You had posted that the only way to received certain things that our body need is from meats, but that is what was put in our minds to believe that someone that want to sell its product and which that someone only can be someone that sell meat. Adam and Eve were only told to eat the fruit of these plants, but not the plants itself and or any other creatures. So God believe that these fruits can provide what their bodies need. But since the devil had been showing what else they can eat and had gotten them hooked on these foods; God just allow them to eat these foods since that doesn't defile a person, but it might defile the body, but not the soul. So after the flood, God announced again, but with a little more changes, about what foods they can eat and can't use as food, like the blood. and then He made some more changes with Moses, and now we has people that eats blood sausages for breakfast. Sometimes that I feel that Jonah was right.

Blood sausage is a generic name for a type of sausage made by cooking blood or dried blood with a filler until it is thick enough to congeal when cooled. The dish exists with different names in various cultures from Asia, Europe, Africa, and the Americas. Pig, cattle, sheep, duck, and goat blood can be used depending on different countries.
In Europe and the Americas, typical fillers include meat, fat, suet, bread, cornmeal, sweet potato,[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] onion, chestnuts,barley, and oatmeal. In Spain, Portugal, and Asia, potato is often replaced by rice. In Kenya fillers are fresh minced goat or beef, fat, and red onions.
Blood sausage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

VCO

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But where does these animals get their vitamins from?
Perhaps it happens this way.

There was an atheist vegan a few years back, that was walking down a wooded trail in Alaska in the early Spring.

Suddenly there was an angry, hungry Grizzly that jumped out of the bushes and started chasing the atheist.

Running as fast as he could and the bear getting closer, that lifelong atheist started praying, "Lord, you know I don't believe in you, but if you do exist, PLEASE turn this Grizzly into a Christian."

To the atheist's amazement, the Grizzly stopped dead in his tracks, dropped to his hind knees, put his front paws together, and prayed out loud, "Lord, I thank you for this meal that I am about to receive."





Here is a list of the Vitamins and Nutrients in Beef that has 20% fat:

https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/beef/show

I imagine deer that has been in the corn fields and milo fields all Summer packing on the pounds, would be about the same. The largest White Tail Deer that I ever shot with a bow was like that, and weighed 220 lb. field dressed. It had a half inch of fat inside the hide, and the meat was marbled like good beef. We enjoyed every bite.
 

Ella85

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Japanese eat puffer fish as a delicacy and poison dart frog poison is used to bring down monkeys, birds etc. HAHHAH
:cool:
ohhhh now I get it....
I went fishing one day and the Asians next to me caught a puffer fish....I was wondering what they were going to do with it LOL
 

gotime

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Not wrong to be Vego. many famous people are vegan, Many world athletes are vegan. Done right you have more energy and need less sleep. Brain thinks faster etc.

Cutting out meat and dairy will reverse diabetes, lower blood pressure and lower Cholesterol. reverse heart disease and of course lose weight. It also stops you from getting sick much. It has to be done right though can revers cancer also.

Science has shown this in many studies today. I run programs on how to eat without meat eggs and cheese and milk. and people are constantly surprised at the results when they go to their doctors. Everything above I have seen happen through a proper change to vegetarian diet.

It works, there is plenty of studies out there to research and I have seen it over and over again as people change their diet.
 
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Perhaps it happens this way.

There was an atheist vegan a few years back, that was walking down a wooded trail in Alaska in the early Spring.

Suddenly there was an angry, hungry Grizzly that jumped out of the bushes and started chasing the atheist.

Running as fast as he could and the bear getting closer, that lifelong atheist started praying, "Lord, you know I don't believe in you, but if you do exist, PLEASE turn this Grizzly into a Christian."

To the atheist's amazement, the Grizzly stopped dead in his tracks, dropped to his hind knees, put his front paws together, and prayed out loud, "Lord, I thank you for this meal that I am about to receive."





Here is a list of the Vitamins and Nutrients in Beef that has 20% fat:

https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/beef/show

I imagine deer that has been in the corn fields and milo fields all Summer packing on the pounds, would be about the same. The largest White Tail Deer that I ever shot with a bow was like that, and weighed 220 lb. field dressed. It had a half inch of fat inside the hide, and the meat was marbled like good beef. We enjoyed every bite.
Oh, I see that you can't get none of them from fruits and veggies except for a little tiny bit of water. So I better tell all them vegans to stop eating them veggies and start eating meats.

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