JOEL OSTEEN and LAKEWOOD
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this is even more muddled...no offense
I'm not sure what your point is
perhaps you didn't understand me either
I simply said Joel is considered by many as 'gospel light' and I also said his tv program is not the whole story
I would not listen to Joel if i wanted a proper biblical education past salvation
did you know he gives altar calls for salvation?
anyway...as you say, that's fine
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same here
honestly, I have not been muddled by a post from you before
maybe it's the subject matter
honestly, I have not been muddled by a post from you before
maybe it's the subject matter
or even joel...
but the fruits of people who only listen to him and refuse the scripture as being inspired
im sure its the same for random church goers who dont really seek God
Unfortunately that is true...however I believe the Lord is changing all that within the body of Christ. We are learning how to walk by the life of Another in us.
Galatians 5:15-16 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
Are these the books Joel's ministry follow? Did Joel read these books himself? I'm curious of what teachings of his church coincide with these literary works. And are these books Satanist per say? When I hear the word Satanist, I imagine people who knowingly worship Satan (there's no such thing as unknowingly worshiping someone). Are these people worshipping Satan or merely being deceived by Satan (which I imagine can occur without their knowing)?
I'm also curious if these are the same books Mary was referencing, or if she had other books in mind. Is she not talking about The Church Of Satan, the political organization that strives for separation of church and state? Sorry, I'm wondering because even though I find Joel quite disagreeable, I don't see any evidence that he worships Satan and reads books about Satanism, or the books you referenced, the former which has nothing to do with Satan (the Egyptian gods may have been false gods, but they aren't Satan).
It's wrong to lie, even if it's about people we disagree with. No matter how detestable they may be. For if a person is truly at fault, then there is no need to misrepresent their dishonest position, for the dishonesty should speak for itself.
I'm also curious if these are the same books Mary was referencing, or if she had other books in mind. Is she not talking about The Church Of Satan, the political organization that strives for separation of church and state? Sorry, I'm wondering because even though I find Joel quite disagreeable, I don't see any evidence that he worships Satan and reads books about Satanism, or the books you referenced, the former which has nothing to do with Satan (the Egyptian gods may have been false gods, but they aren't Satan).
It's wrong to lie, even if it's about people we disagree with. No matter how detestable they may be. For if a person is truly at fault, then there is no need to misrepresent their dishonest position, for the dishonesty should speak for itself.
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...sigh
