John the baptist....Sinner?NONSINNER?

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John was not the sacrificial lamb, Jesus was.... There are many one yearold lambs with no defect in a sheep herd, bt only ONE is seected for the sacrifice....

John was just another faultless lamb, not the MESSIAH... he was the HOLY SPIRIT FILLED prophet that will PREPARE for the Messiah... As it was prophecied...

John's sinless state was from God, and so was the CALLING of John in Mal 4.... one that will restore some love so God did not have to come and SMITE the whole earth with a curse...

Let me show you something LT... If the John the Baptist (Elijah) did not come, God would not have BLESSED the world with a MESSIAH, but he would have cursed the world. That would mean NO PERSON WOULD EVER BE SAVED.... WOW!!!!!

Read this and LEARN young man.... Learn God's TRUTH...

The last few verses in the Old Testament....
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

John the Baptist was Elijad God sent to STOP THE CURSE.... So that is another reason he COULD NOT SIN, or he would have brought the CURSE not the preparation of the MESSIAH...

I am sorry but this is a whacked theology adding a bunch of nonsensical stuff and wrangling with words. You have no understanding that in Adam all die - or the 1st Adam - choose sin and disobedience, therefore all have sin, and die - Genesis 5 - the list - they all died. IN Christ, who is the second Adam - all live - It assumes that there are good people in the sight of God - which God is the only one who is Good - the whole rich man calling Jesus good scenario. People have imputed righteousness from God, but can walk blameless(if they are in Christ)

If you are teaching sinless perfection - that is false teaching

I am not giving excuse to sin - because sin is always destructive, it's the reason death is here, it's the reason people go to hell - we should hate sin -especially our own sin.

You and me are born in sin - sin indwells us - Romans 7 - Paul and his struggle

He who says he is without sin is a liar and the truth is not in him - James I believe -

When you fail big time cobus and sin - your are setting yourself up for failure doubly - which is going to cause either depression, denial, or straight up walking away from the faith - if you have 'the faith' I don't know what's totally going on in your head so that's for you to examine
 
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I am sorry but this is a whacked theology adding a bunch of nonsensical stuff and wrangling with words. You have no understanding that in Adam all die - or the 1st Adam - choose sin and disobedience, therefore all have sin, and die - Genesis 5 - the list - they all died. IN Christ, who is the second Adam - all live - It assumes that there are good people in the sight of God - which God is the only one who is Good - the whole rich man calling Jesus good scenario. People have imputed righteousness from God, but can walk blameless(if they are in Christ)

If you are teaching sinless perfection - that is false teaching

I am not giving excuse to sin - because sin is always destructive, it's the reason death is here, it's the reason people go to hell - we should hate sin -especially our own sin.

You and me are born in sin - sin indwells us - Romans 7 - Paul and his struggle

He who says he is without sin is a liar and the truth is not in him - James I believe -

When you fail big time cobus and sin - your are setting yourself up for failure doubly - which is going to cause either depression, denial, or straight up walking away from the faith - if you have 'the faith' I don't know what's totally going on in your head so that's for you to examine

maybe I should not have said no understanding - but from what you have said it appears that you may not understand
 
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maybe I should not have said no understanding - but from what you have said it appears that you may not understand
No my friend say what you think, I HATE masks and hypocrates.... I agree between the two of us one is not understanding. I used to think like you EXACTLY like you, then God said ... Genesis 1:1 start... so i did, and boy did God shale my cage. You see, God does not hold back on punches. If God says,,,, be perfect, he means BE PERFECT... Do you know why God says and meant that we should BE PERFECT HERE ON EARTH AS HE IS PERFECT IN HEAVEN? Because HE GIVES US ALL WE NEED TO BE PERFECT HERE ON EARTH....

I know you ALL understand, or at least have the Idea of what is done when God's Son was crucified. He paid for ALL sin on the cross. ALL SIN SINNERS WILL REPENT FROM.... the other sin people do not repent from will be paid by themselves in hell... that is the people that will go through the SECOND DEATH...

You all see the flesh go to rest as death.... IT IS NOT! It is just God taking away the ghost from the flesh. The flesh PROFITS NOT EVERLASTING LIFE... the FLESH PROFITS NOTHING EVERLASTING....The flesh does PROPHET A NEW LIFE IN CHRIST but it is not EVERLASTING... So this I hope you all understand or you are even further behind in TRUTH and WISDOM than I think.

Jesus died for our OLD LIVES, but that is not where God left His Son... He made him RISE... what for? For our NEW LIFE IN HIM... God resurrected Jesus so we can have a NEW LIFE IN HIM, AFTER we repented from all sin HE WANTS US TO REPENT FROM... and that is ALL SIN... Why do you get stuck at repentance? Move on and get DONE with repentance... Jesus said he came to call sinners to repent.... so go repent unbtil you FINISH REPENTING... Do not worry what happens next. Just finish with sin...

The RESURRECTED life in Christ is right here on earth... God calls it BORN OF GOD... when HE GIVES US A NEW LIFE WITH HIS SPIRIT IN US...AT the end of repentance,,,,
 
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No my friend say what you think, I HATE masks and hypocrates.... I agree between the two of us one is not understanding. I used to think like you EXACTLY like you, then God said ... Genesis 1:1 start... so i did, and boy did God shale my cage. You see, God does not hold back on punches. If God says,,,, be perfect, he means BE PERFECT... Do you know why God says and meant that we should BE PERFECT HERE ON EARTH AS HE IS PERFECT IN HEAVEN? Because HE GIVES US ALL WE NEED TO BE PERFECT HERE ON EARTH....


I know you ALL understand, or at least have the Idea of what is done when God's Son was crucified. He paid for ALL sin on the cross. ALL SIN SINNERS WILL REPENT FROM.... the other sin people do not repent from will be paid by themselves in hell... that is the people that will go through the SECOND DEATH...

You all see the flesh go to rest as death.... IT IS NOT! It is just God taking away the ghost from the flesh. The flesh PROFITS NOT EVERLASTING LIFE... the FLESH PROFITS NOTHING EVERLASTING....The flesh does PROPHET A NEW LIFE IN CHRIST but it is not EVERLASTING... So this I hope you all understand or you are even further behind in TRUTH and WISDOM than I think.

Jesus died for our OLD LIVES, but that is not where God left His Son... He made him RISE... what for? For our NEW LIFE IN HIM... God resurrected Jesus so we can have a NEW LIFE IN HIM, AFTER we repented from all sin HE WANTS US TO REPENT FROM... and that is ALL SIN... Why do you get stuck at repentance? Move on and get DONE with repentance... Jesus said he came to call sinners to repent.... so go repent unbtil you FINISH REPENTING... Do not worry what happens next. Just finish with sin...

The RESURRECTED life in Christ is right here on earth... God calls it BORN OF GOD... when HE GIVES US A NEW LIFE WITH HIS SPIRIT IN US...AT the end of repentance,,,,
[h=1]Deuteronomy 18
[/h][SUP]9 [/SUP]When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou shalt be perfect with the Lord thy God.
 
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Yes we are born in sin but we are REBORN IN GOD, and there is NO SIN only perfection and holiness... that is why we have to be BORN OF GOD, not ADAM...
You still did not answer me are the two babies the same?

It is not in James, it is in 1 John 1. The if we say we have no sin... but look at the process here... it starts with sin, then confession, then forgiveness then CLEANSE FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS... then IF WE SAY WE HAVE NOT SINNED... PAST TENCE....

Even the verses you quoted teach what I teach.... and proof your doctrine to be in error... You see my friend, God truly do save a sinner to be a holy man of GOD!


Will you do me a huge honor? God and read John 17 and 1 John 3. Both chapters completely, and then you will understand what BORN OF GOD IS, and the SEED in the man BORN OF GOD...Please go read those two chapters... It reveals much.
 
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No my friend say what you think, I HATE masks and hypocrates.... I agree between the two of us one is not understanding. I used to think like you EXACTLY like you, then God said ... Genesis 1:1 start... so i did, and boy did God shale my cage. You see, God does not hold back on punches. If God says,,,, be perfect, he means BE PERFECT... Do you know why God says and meant that we should BE PERFECT HERE ON EARTH AS HE IS PERFECT IN HEAVEN? Because HE GIVES US ALL WE NEED TO BE PERFECT HERE ON EARTH....

I know you ALL understand, or at least have the Idea of what is done when God's Son was crucified. He paid for ALL sin on the cross. ALL SIN SINNERS WILL REPENT FROM.... the other sin people do not repent from will be paid by themselves in hell... that is the people that will go through the SECOND DEATH...

You all see the flesh go to rest as death.... IT IS NOT! It is just God taking away the ghost from the flesh. The flesh PROFITS NOT EVERLASTING LIFE... the FLESH PROFITS NOTHING EVERLASTING....The flesh does PROPHET A NEW LIFE IN CHRIST but it is not EVERLASTING... So this I hope you all understand or you are even further behind in TRUTH and WISDOM than I think.

Jesus died for our OLD LIVES, but that is not where God left His Son... He made him RISE... what for? For our NEW LIFE IN HIM... God resurrected Jesus so we can have a NEW LIFE IN HIM, AFTER we repented from all sin HE WANTS US TO REPENT FROM... and that is ALL SIN... Why do you get stuck at repentance? Move on and get DONE with repentance... Jesus said he came to call sinners to repent.... so go repent unbtil you FINISH REPENTING... Do not worry what happens next. Just finish with sin...

The RESURRECTED life in Christ is right here on earth... God calls it BORN OF GOD... when HE GIVES US A NEW LIFE WITH HIS SPIRIT IN US...AT the end of repentance,,,,
Romans 7

[SUP]21 [/SUP]I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

[SUP]24 [/SUP]O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

[SUP]25 [/SUP]I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
 
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Yes we are born in sin but we are REBORN IN GOD, and there is NO SIN only perfection and holiness... that is why we have to be BORN OF GOD, not ADAM...
You still did not answer me are the two babies the same?

It is not in James, it is in 1 John 1. The if we say we have no sin... but look at the process here... it starts with sin, then confession, then forgiveness then CLEANSE FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS... then IF WE SAY WE HAVE NOT SINNED... PAST TENCE....

Even the verses you quoted teach what I teach.... and proof your doctrine to be in error... You see my friend, God truly do save a sinner to be a holy man of GOD!


Will you do me a huge honor? God and read John 17 and 1 John 3. Both chapters completely, and then you will understand what BORN OF GOD IS, and the SEED in the man BORN OF GOD...Please go read those two chapters... It reveals much.
1 John 1
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

[SUP]8 [/SUP]If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


If you say you have not sinned at all hmmmmm And if you say you have no sin hmmmm present tense
 
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Romans 7

[SUP]21 [/SUP]I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

[SUP]24 [/SUP]O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

[SUP]25 [/SUP]I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Can an evil person do good ?
 

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Bookie do you think Paul was a hypocrate? Why would Paul say this?.....

1 Cor 4.... I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
1Co 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
1Co 4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
1Co 4:17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

Do you think Paul had the right to make this bold statement? And I want you to note something else... the RED text.... If your ways are IN CHRSIT, do you think it will be perfect? If that is not perfect, then there is NO PERFECTION ANYWHERE!

Paul was perfect, you just do not understand Paul's teaching. I cannot help you, you want to have PAul and Saul the same man, but they are OPPOSITES... So I cannot help you. Like you I also believed there is no "PERFECT WAYS" here on earth, but in Christ ALL IS PERFECT...
Following Christ and Pursuing Him with a pure heart and living an absolutely sinless life in our flesh are two different things.
 

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Bookie Paul said one or two places he is sinner, but tenfold that he is holy and without sin and live in Christ, and sanctified, received obedience to the faith, appointed for God unto the Gospel and many other things that contradicts the two times he said otherwise, why do you always ony believe the sinning part?

Paul was NO SINNER... Get this...PAUL WAS NO SINNER.... If he was GOD LIED... If Paul was FILLED with the HOLY SPIRIT, who sinned? GOD! NEVER! Bookie what doe you not understand about the Word... FILLED? It means so full there is only ONE THING IN THE VESSEL/.... And that "THING" God calls HOLY SPIRIT... Paul was FILLED with the SPIRIT OF GOD... so hw can he sin?

Come on man scratch two brain cells to the other side of the sin in your head.... God makes HOLY and PERFECT whom HE SAVES FROM SIN AND DEATH... Nothing less.

How can Paul say.... Brethren sin not, and he himself still sin... that is hypocrate... Paul is NOT like your pastor, a sinner teaching others to be Saints and PERFECT MAN OF GOD... Paul taught men to be PERFECTED SAINTS... and HE could, because it was not SAUL who taught this, it was PAUL... an APOSTLE...

Look at the perfect man PAul was....

Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
Rom 1:2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Rom 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Rom 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Rom 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
Rom 1:6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 7

[SUP]24 [/SUP]O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? [SUP]25 [/SUP]I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

If Paul saw himself sinless, he wouldn't had said this. Perhaps he meant " O wretched man that I was!", and the translators/copiers got it wrong.
 
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Can an evil person do good ?
Oh they do many GOOD, but in whose eyes? God does not know one evil person, so how would he know if they do good or bad? Where is the NAME of the evil person written? or is not written at all? Evil is evil, and God is NO EVIL. ONLY GOD IS GOOD. Jesus said so. So if you are not made ONE with God NOTHING IS GOOD!

I have not done ONE GOOD DEED IN MY LIFE YET... NOT ONE! I do not have God in me YET... God did WONDERFUL WITH ME, but it is HIS work not mine.... His LIFE in me will DO GOOD.... not me HIS LIFE AND HIS SPIRIT AND HIS HEART..... NOT ME!
 
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Following Christ and Pursuing Him with a pure heart and living an absolutely sinless life in our flesh are two different things.
Again you have it so wrong..... Persuing jesus and following Him in ANY manner is still you following Jesus... that is not rebirth of BORN OF GOD...

When Jesus lives in your flesh you are DELIVERED from this flesh... So there Both your posts answered...

Bookie as long as you are in flesh, you are NOT SAVED... you need to be in Christ and God Father ONLY THEN YOU ARE SAVED...but God only lets SINLESS SAINTS IN.... God does not allow a single sin in... NOT ONE... So no sinner will EVER enter...
REPENT, and be DELIVERED as a SAINT.... Soon my friend Cobus will not be.. NOTHING of Cobus will be here...NOTHING...

The Saint Cobus will enter into God and God into the old BODY, IF HE WANTS TO USE THIS BODY.... IF HE DOES NOT WANT TO THE FLESH WILL GO BACK TO DUST... AND COBUS WILL BE IN PARADISE.... WOWOWOWOWOWO!!!!
 

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[h=3]The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector[/h][SUP]9 [/SUP]Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: [SUP]10 [/SUP]“Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. [SUP]11 [/SUP]The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. [SUP]12 [/SUP]I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ [SUP]13 [/SUP]And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ [SUP]14 [/SUP]I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”

Cobus, How was this man Justified? What do you pull out of this parable personally for you?
 
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Oh bookends I pull for myself that I am not the selfrighteous man that THINKS he is Holier that thou. I am the wrechet man that needs to be DELIVERED FROM THIS BODY... My chest is beaten to a pulp, and GOD HEARD, so GOD SAVED... Cobus CANNOT save himself. God saves, but God saves PERFECTLY... So I guess I am being saved through the three stages... must I lie so you can feel better? Like Paul did to the Romans and Hebrews? I will and I did, for three years here on CC, but you all stayed on milk. Like paul I am not pleased by you folks... You should have been on meat, but you got stuck on milk, the teaching of baptism and the cross... MOVE ON TO SPIRITUAL things...

Bookie, I was propably twelve shades of red deeper in sin that two of you put together.... but WHITE AS SNOW HE WASHES... If God washed me WHITE AS SNOW, what will God do to KEEP me white? How does God keep me white as HE IS WHITE, and why does He keep me white as He is?

God keeps me white as he is by GIVING ME HIS SEED IN ME, and GOD KEEPS HIS SEED IN ME FOR HIS GLORY.... IT has NOTHING to do with me.... NOTHING...

Tell me that man that god does send home righteous, is that man as righteous as God is righteous? If not, then that man is not righteous. There is only one righteousness... God's! So if God send a man home righteous, why would God have to repeat the task? See if the SEED of God is in the man IT REMAINETH THERE.... God will NEVER take it out...
 
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I have to spend time with the family, Please Go read John 17... Jesus asks the Father to make us PERFECTLY ONE... people we can only do that is God dives us all the likeness of Jesus... and that is PERFECT!

If we cannot ALL be perfect, we CANNOT BE ONE!!!!

Please Go READ JOHN 17....
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What the bible is saying is that whosoever is born of God will not live a sinful life .
Yes…. And that is what is taught throughout the scriptures: to not live a sinful life. What is being taught now in these Christian churches is a teaching that says your sinful life is hidden in Christ by faith. Everyone lives a sinful life because of the sin always in their flesh. Their sinful life is hidden in Christ by their faith, thus they are always sinless in Christ even though they life a sinful life. The result is people keep on sinning and living a sinful life believing that their faith in Christ keeps them sinless by His righteousness resulting from the sinless life He lived before He was tortured to death. They never stop sinning and many get even worse. That’s why there’s just as much sin inside these Christian churches as there is outside these Christian churches. The fruit of your teaching is self-evident: The unbelievers outside see this and call Christians a bunch of hypocrites. Exactly what Satan wants the unbelievers to see so that they never look into the Word of God for themselves and they too perish along with many of those inside these churches. “For many are called, but few chosen.”
 
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Yes…. And that is what is taught throughout the scriptures: to not live a sinful life. What is being taught now in these Christian churches is a teaching that says your sinful life is hidden in Christ by faith. Everyone lives a sinful life because of the sin always in their flesh. Their sinful life is hidden in Christ by their faith, thus they are always sinless in Christ even though they life a sinful life. The result is people keep on sinning and living a sinful life believing that their faith in Christ keeps them sinless by His righteousness resulting from the sinless life He lived before He was tortured to death. They never stop sinning and many get even worse. That’s why there’s just as much sin inside these Christian churches as there is outside these Christian churches. The fruit of your teaching is self-evident: The unbelievers outside see this and call Christians a bunch of hypocrites. Exactly what Satan wants the unbelievers to see so that they never look into the Word of God for themselves and they too perish along with many of those inside these churches. “For many are called, but few chosen.”
Of coarse there is NO Biblical evidence of this false teaching, and that is why I left the church. To motivate this doctrine you really have to RAPE the Word of God...There is NO evidence that any person will stay or remain a sinner, NONE!!!! Just the opposite... Go and sin no more., We are not called to sin, but to holiness...

There is plenty evidence that God saves sinners to holiness... Thank you for putting the outsiders in TRUTH... they do judge sinners in churches as hypocrates... And they are right... God does not make hypocrates.. If He appoints a person as teacher, that man can teach Matthew 5:48, wit h a pure conscience, and Teach 1 john 3:9 without being a hypocrate... he will HAVE The SEED OF GOD IN HIM....
 
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No my friend say what you think, I HATE masks and hypocrates.... I agree between the two of us one is not understanding. I used to think like you EXACTLY like you, then God said ... Genesis 1:1 start... so i did, and boy did God shale my cage. You see, God does not hold back on punches. If God says,,,, be perfect, he means BE PERFECT... Do you know why God says and meant that we should BE PERFECT HERE ON EARTH AS HE IS PERFECT IN HEAVEN? Because HE GIVES US ALL WE NEED TO BE PERFECT HERE ON EARTH....

I know you ALL understand, or at least have the Idea of what is done when God's Son was crucified. He paid for ALL sin on the cross. ALL SIN SINNERS WILL REPENT FROM.... the other sin people do not repent from will be paid by themselves in hell... that is the people that will go through the SECOND DEATH...

You all see the flesh go to rest as death.... IT IS NOT! It is just God taking away the ghost from the flesh. The flesh PROFITS NOT EVERLASTING LIFE... the FLESH PROFITS NOTHING EVERLASTING....The flesh does PROPHET A NEW LIFE IN CHRIST but it is not EVERLASTING... So this I hope you all understand or you are even further behind in TRUTH and WISDOM than I think.

Jesus died for our OLD LIVES, but that is not where God left His Son... He made him RISE... what for? For our NEW LIFE IN HIM... God resurrected Jesus so we can have a NEW LIFE IN HIM, AFTER we repented from all sin HE WANTS US TO REPENT FROM... and that is ALL SIN... Why do you get stuck at repentance? Move on and get DONE with repentance... Jesus said he came to call sinners to repent.... so go repent unbtil you FINISH REPENTING... Do not worry what happens next. Just finish with sin...

The RESURRECTED life in Christ is right here on earth... God calls it BORN OF GOD... when HE GIVES US A NEW LIFE WITH HIS SPIRIT IN US...AT the end of repentance,,,,
you sin because you know not the truth, but a half truth, that is sin right there - your telling half truth - Paul says - and if we sin we have an advocate - Jesus Christ the righteous. You should not be on here pushing sinless perfection - err is sin
 
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Oh they do many GOOD, but in whose eyes? God does not know one evil person, so how would he know if they do good or bad? Where is the NAME of the evil person written? or is not written at all? Evil is evil, and God is NO EVIL. ONLY GOD IS GOOD. Jesus said so. So if you are not made ONE with God NOTHING IS GOOD!

I have not done ONE GOOD DEED IN MY LIFE YET... NOT ONE! I do not have God in me YET... God did WONDERFUL WITH ME, but it is HIS work not mine.... His LIFE in me will DO GOOD.... not me HIS LIFE AND HIS SPIRIT AND HIS HEART..... NOT ME!
YOU ARE CORRECT THAT GOD IS NOT IN YOU AS YET BECAUSE GOD DONOT AND WILL NOT TELL THIS LIE THAT YOU ARE SPREADING