King James authorized bible vs the rest of other bibles

[tinynascarfan]

I know someone probably had posted this title before. Just to inform that I had 4 other bibles beside I add the King James version. Should I burn the rest of the 4 because I read on the internet as well youtube that our faith to our Lord will dwindled for using the wrong bibles unless we used the King James version.

When someone is truly seeking the Lord and trying to learn his Word, every different version of the Holy Bible you can study from is a good thing, IF you compare the texts and the words basically add up to mean the same thing. Some versions make understanding the Bible easier.

In our church we have about 5 different versions during Sunday school, not on purpose, it just has worked out that way, and we can read the same passage of scripture and get a better understanding of what God is trying to say.

 

[p_rehbein]

Don't be a brat. There are threads on the site older than the posters.

...........aw, gee, but I'm SOVERYGOOD at "bratting..........." sigh.........

 

[Apostol2013]

I heard a joke a while back , here it is / what does the joy of gay sex ,the satanic bible all have in comonn

they were all published by zondeeban

 

[JackH]

So tell me,

Which ersion is "WRONG" and from the devil?

The Queen James Bible? Is that one divinely inspired?

 

[JackH]

Also

hate to deflate your Bible

the Bible was not written in greek

it was DAMAGED by greek

there are versions who never went through the greek pagan ritual sun god forever burning in hell once saved always saved pagan greek language


Greek is a PAGAN LANGUAGE!
it is not the best choice

the original language is the HEBREW ORIGINALS that never got greek twisted

The New Testament was originally written in Greek. Paul likely used Greek manuscripts to quote from when he preached. That is the language the people he preached to understood.

 

[2Thewaters]

I agree that king james was not God
his authrization is like the pope claiming some input
rediculous

i

 

[CWJ]

Our Bible is an integrated message system. The message over and over directs us through foreshadows and archtypes to Jesus Christ, crucified for our sin and His resurrection. The Holy Spirit can use whatever version is at hand to reveal truth to the one who seeks.

There is nothing improper or sinful in using a Strong's for a word study or using an interlinear for clarification.
God bless us all

'The entrance of thy words giveth light;
it giveth understanding unto the simple.'
(Psa 119:130)

Hi Psalm6819,

This can be a thorny subject, which engenders a lot of strong feeling.

I agree with what you say. That the Holy Spirit uses whatever version comes to hand, in bringing the seeker to Christ.

When I think the KJV is needed, is when study is undertaken as the child of God grows in grace and truth and in the knowledge of God. Although even then, I believe it is of benefit to find out what the original languages have to tell us about the meaning of the words used; and also to find out how, and in what context, that word is used elsewhere in Scripture. This is where a concordance is useful.

We have such opportunity today, so many useful tools are available to us.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[2Thewaters]

Agree
Jesus wants all men saved and is doing everything he can to do so.
Its u to us to use the tools

I give a KJV bible to a teenager it sits there

I give a new living translation or good news Bible to a kid
and they read it and read it

which is a better Bible?


It all depends!

It depends what the spirit tells you is the better bible at that moment

 

[CWJ]

'Now we have received,
not the spirit of the world,
but the spirit which is of God;
that we might know
the things that are freely given to us of God.
Which things also we speak,
not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth,
but which the Holy Ghost teacheth;
comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man
receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him:
neither can he know them,
because they are spiritually discerned.
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things,
yet he himself is judged of no man.
For who hath known the mind of the Lord,
that he may instruct Him?
But we have the mind of Christ.'
(1Cor. 2:12)

 

[Apostol2013]

The Queen James Bible? Is that one divinely inspired?

The King james you reffer to but the problem with the brethren is they are carnal deviating from the truth as your insult go the king james by remarking insultfully giving indication of a very carnal mind , the joke that i shared is not a joke at all it is a trutH about theni bible the chairman involved was an openly active gay man in charge of the niv translation project . Under satanic influences they erased as they pleased the word of God , men of seered minds true reprobates and the ni v stands as evidence.

 

[Apostol2013]

But argument over greek or hebrew , wow the waters do you see the disorder here

 

[Apostol2013]

Agree
Jesus wants all men saved and is doing everything he can to do so.
Its u to us to use the tools

I give a KJV bible to a teenager it sits there

I give a new living translation or good news Bible to a kid
and they read it and read it

which is a better Bible?


It all depends!

It depends what the spirit tells you is the better bible at that moment

This is true the waters ,i started with a goodnews but fell in my comfort with the kjv, as it gave me a better understandi.g due to its oxymoron language so shakesperean the language is so descriptive and alive .

 

[Apostol2013]

I agree that king james was not God
his authrization is like the pope claiming some input
rediculous

i

In fact it was God authorized ,look at tge history behind the kjv and all the martyrs involved just to bring you the bible you have today ,and how the catholic church persecuted the oned trying to bring uou the word of God the kjv is a compilation of every single bible the tyndale etc so many that were burned at the stake so that every man would stand holding a copy , the catholics tried to blow up king james to prevent the bible brought to you , so satan was in opposition and now He comes with the doctrine of balkam and balaak to destroy the body from within and even throught its universities , we must fight the dragon and squash its head .

 

[Deadtosin]

Actually, the original Greek does not say this!

"εἶπεν δὲ αὐτοῖς· Ὅταν προσεύχησθε, λέγετε· Πάτερ, ἁγιασθήτω τὸ ὄνομά σου·ἐλθέτω ἡ βασιλεία σου· " Luke 11:2

First, there is no word "our" simply the word "Father." The word for "our" in Greek is ἡμῶν or hemon.

Second, there is no "heaven" or οὐρανοῖς.

Third, ἁγιασθήτω, or "hagiastheto, is the aorist, imperative, passive. It is in fact, a passive command to God, best translated as "Let your name be holy!" "Hallowed" is an archaic word. This verb is in the jussive, which is beseeching God that his name would be holy. The implication is that the person praying declares or treats God as holy, with the reverence and respect due to a Heavenly Father.

As for the rest, it is an attempt to harmonize the Lord's Prayer in Matt 6:9

"Οὕτως οὖν προσεύχεσθε ὑμεῖς· Πάτερ ἡμῶν ὁ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς· ἁγιασθήτω τὸ ὄνομά σου," Matt 6:9

The second part of this would best be read as "Father our, the one in heaven, let the name your" Or "Our Father, the one in heaven, let your name be holy!" There actually is no verb in the first part of the sentence- no "art" or "is" or "to be" verb, as KJV so erroneously adds to the text, which NIV does not!

I think if you are going to compare versions, be prepared to discuss the original languages, which contain the real text, not the English translation of the KJV!

PS The NIV is also right with the last half if Luke 11:2 ἐλθέτω ἡ βασιλεία σου· The word ἐλθέτω or eltheto, is also in the aorist, imperative, But active, not passive! It means "let come the kingdom your" or reordered for English "Let your Kingdom come!"

Okay, which greek manuscript are you translating?

 

[Deadtosin]

I have tried to be clear, I am against the use of certain ancient manuscripts.. The alexandrian texts. A and B, Vaticanus and siniaticus.

 

[Deadtosin]

Tell me Angela, what does the "Textus Receptus" say for all of those verses I posted?

 

[Deadtosin]

"RIGHTEOUSNESS MEANS TEN COMMANDMENT KEEPING!"-2thewaters

Oh yeah? even here?

Genesis 15
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

 

[RedTent]

The reason we read the bible is to know about God as accurately as possible.The bible was breathed to Hebrew people whose lifestyle, language, traditions, and thought was Hebrew.Luke was the exception and he had a Hebrew father and was raised in a Hebrew household.Eusebius and Jerome said Matt, Mark, Luke and Acts were first written in Hebrew and translated to Greek when the gospel went to the gentiles.

The Hebrew language has changed over the thousands of years, just as our English language has changed.It is a unique language and impossible to translate completely into any other language.

Here is an example.In Rev 1:8 we read I am alpha and omega, I am first and last.That would be true in Hebrew, but it is also true that in Hebrew it would say I am aleph (first, strong, leader) and tav (sign of the covenant).

So we can know that buried in our translated bibles are many spiritual truths we need to know.It helps to learn all we can of Hebrew as it was through the ages, but otherwise we can use all the help we can get through what translators, all of them, have learned.

I don't think any of our goals need be to critique one translation over another, word by word, all are lacking and certainly the KJV is, written before archeology turned up new information of the old. The Holy Spirit guides and helps, but men are used, too. Those translators lived in a time of the great spiritual darkness of the years around 1500, the Holy Spirit had a lot to overcome. They need to be checked, as even Paul was checked with God principles.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

Actually, the original Greek does not say this!

Angela; you don't have the "original Greek."

What you have are Greek texts, but you do not have the original authographs.

The second part of this would best be read as

It is best read as found in the King James Holy Bible.

I think if you are going to compare versions, be prepared to discuss the original languages, which contain the real text, not the English translation of the KJV!

The real text is found in the English of the King James Holy Bible.

 

[Deadtosin]

Mark 16:9-20 are missing out of the alexandrian texts. They are God's Word. God went out of His way to make sure we knew that. How can we take anything from ancient manuscripts that we know butcher His Word?