Prosperity preaching Pastor prosecuted, prisoned

[SovereignGrace]

no what i am saying is some people need to grow up and not falsely accuse others to get them banned. if i have a problem with someone i stand up and face them like a man, i dont go running to the report button every time someone says something i dont like.

Its common knowledge that many who have been banned have returned under other aliases. Personally, I thought it was Denadii, but if you read beastslayer's posts, they're eerily similar to Megiddo's.

This thread was about exposing false doctrine, not a Calvinist seeking to debase another Brother. We are to know those who labor with us. When someone preaches another gospel, a gospel of greed, excess, idolatry, et al, it needs exposed for what it is.

Beastslayer turned this thread into an anti-John MacArthur and Calvinist witch hunt. I asked him more than once to stay on point or please butt out. I even said 'please'. But he refused to do so, so I reported his keyster.


I'd imagine he was banned because he was a previously banned member.

 

[maxwel]

no what i am saying is some people need to grow up and not falsely accuse others to get them banned. if i have a problem with someone i stand up and face them like a man, i dont go running to the report button every time someone says something i dont like.

Unless the mods believe false accusations without checking them, a false accusation can't get anyone banned.

Are you saying the mods believe false accusations without checking them?

 

[jaybird88]

This thread was about exposing false doctrine, not a Calvinist seeking to debase another Brother. We are to know those who labor with us. When someone preaches another gospel, a gospel of greed, excess, idolatry, et al, it needs exposed for what it is.

you guys disagreed on macaurther, he is banned and your still here.

does it feel good to report someone and get them silenced for expressing their opinion?

 

[jaybird88]

Unless the mods believe false accusations without checking them, a false accusation can't get anyone banned.

Are you saying the mods believe false accusations without checking them?

i dont like seeing anyone banned. you know this is what i am saying. your trying so hard to get me to say something ugly about the mods here. its pitiful . . .

 

[Laish]

you guys disagreed on macaurther, he is banned and your still here.

does it feel good to report someone and get them silenced for expressing their opinion?

Hey read up on the thread one of the mods did more or less confirm that he was a member that was banned before . Also the mod team here has access a user's IP address when they post so it's simple check if someone is back after they were shown the door before.
Blessings
Bill

 

[maxwel]

i dont like seeing anyone banned. you know this is what i am saying. your trying so hard to get me to say something ugly about the mods here. its pitiful . . .

I don't need to "get" you to say anything.

You already said what you said.

You CLEARLY STATED you think the complaints of members were able to get someone WRONGFULLY BANNED...
and since only the mods have the power to enact a ban, someone could only be WRONGFULLY BANNED if the mods CHOSE to WRONGFULLY BAN him.

So... ya know... you said what you said.

 

[TruthTalk]

First, you're lying breaking the 9th commandment. OK? He makes around 250k from the church. That's about 1.5% of the churches net. Not quite fleecing the sheep now is it?

MacArthur's done more for the cause of Christ than 1000 of you or most would ever even attempt, while you sit and slander him with false accusations. This is not the first thread you've lied about this man of God.

He's had a tremendous impact on the hispanic community, bringing them out of Roman Catholicism to the truth of Christ.

But what is really going on here is your hatred for a brother, if you even consider him or "calvies" brothers in the first place. Better check yourself out in 1 John on that hate of brothers thing.

Amen! Preacher, and thank you for calling out a false statement about a true brother in Christ. Pastor John Mac Arthur's annual salary and the Grace Church annual budget is published publicly. You are correct about his annual income 250k. And what is Beastslayer1970's gig, to go around destroying honest peoples reputation, not an edifying ministry in my estimation.

And where does this hostility about "Calvies" come from, very juvenile comments, "so spare us all the Calvie better than thou selective outrage", and, "1 million a year salary, (false statement) makes the Calvie's here "puke". God hates a lying tongue and at minimum the Beastslayer1970's comments are not worthy of a "Mature Christian.

 

[Laish]

i dont like seeing anyone banned. you know this is what i am saying. your trying so hard to get me to say something ugly about the mods here. its pitiful . . .

That's a bold statement. I don't see Max trying to get you to say anything like what you have accused him of . It is just a simple question. Considering the previous post.
Blessings
Bill

 

[Ugly]

no what i am saying is some people need to grow up and not falsely accuse others to get them banned. if i have a problem with someone i stand up and face them like a man, i dont go running to the report button every time someone says something i dont like.

People can't be banned by accusations. For a ban to take place mods must have proof. Infractions done ON the site. That they can see it with their eyes. Not copies, either.
Often times people are banned for reasons not seen. It is only an assumption why someone gets banned unless it's an obvious troll. Many here have been banned for reasons most wouldn't want to believe were true. So it's actually your lack of understanding on how bans work and real knowledge the cause of a ban at play here.
In fact most of the times people are reported it gets ignored. By a large margin.

 

[SovereignGrace]

you guys disagreed on macaurther, he is banned and your still here.

does it feel good to report someone and get them silenced for expressing their opinion?

He was falsely accusing MacArthur of being a prosperity teacher. He is not one of those. Liars need reported. Now, care to get back on point?

 

[jaybird88]

I don't need to "get" you to say anything.

You already said what you said.

You CLEARLY STATED you think the complaints of members were able to get someone WRONGFULLY BANNED...
and since only the mods have the power to enact a ban, someone could only be WRONGFULLY BANNED if the mods CHOSE to WRONGFULLY BAN him.

So... ya know... you said what you said.

i said i dont like seeing anyone banned. your trying like crazy to make it about me badmouthing the mods here.
why are you trying to turn the mods against me. you dont like something about me, why not just say it, what are you scared of?

 

[jaybird88]

He was falsely accusing MacArthur of being a prosperity teacher. He is not one of those. Liars need reported. Now, care to get back on point?

not from what i have read about him but im not going to say anything else or i might get reported and banned.

 

[SovereignGrace]

not from what i have read about him but im not going to say anything else or i might get reported and banned.

Look, I reported him to the mods, not to get him banned, but to either have him stay on point or butt out. He got banned because he was Meggido, who was already banned. So I did not get him banned, nor did I seek to have him banned for that.

If you want to discuss MacArthur being a prosperity preacher, feel free to start a thread, and we'll discuss it. Show us some proof, whether in his writings or his sermons, or both.

But the onus is on you to prove he's a prosperity preacher if you start that thread.

 

[SovereignGrace]

TruthTalk,

Did you just delete a post? I tried to give a rep to you for it, but it wouldn't allow me to. I refreshed the screen(F5) and now its gone.

 

[preacher4truth]

So what you're saying is...

if members accuse a guy of something, the mods are so stupid they just ban the guy without checking things out?


That's what you're saying?

Yep, exactly, lol!

 

[preacher4truth]

Amen! Preacher, and thank you for calling out a false statement about a true brother in Christ. Pastor John Mac Arthur's annual salary and the Grace Church annual budget is published publicly. You are correct about his annual income 250k. And what is Beastslayer1970's gig, to go around destroying honest peoples reputation, not an edifying ministry in my estimation.

And where does this hostility about "Calvies" come from, very juvenile comments, "so spare us all the Calvie better than thou selective outrage", and, "1 million a year salary, (false statement) makes the Calvie's here "puke". God hates a lying tongue and at minimum the Beastslayer1970's comments are not worthy of a "Mature Christian.

Yes, and to be honest there is some worry over him. I honestly feel bad for his condition.

 

[preacher4truth]

not from what i have read about him but im not going to say anything else or i might get reported and banned.

You relentlessly are going to believe whatever you want, in spite of evidence which proves otherwise.

Merry Christmas to you. Jesus our Immanuel is "God with us."

That's what you should be very concerned about, not why someone was banned which has been discussed too much and is something else you will not receive.

 

[SovereignGrace]

You relentlessly are going to believe whatever you want, in spite of evidence which proves otherwise.

Merry Christmas to you. Jesus our Immanuel is "God with us."

That's what you should be very concerned about, not why someone was banned which has been discussed too much and is something else you will not receive.

Its all liberal/leftist ideology. When all else fails, try to smear those you don't agree with.

 

[preacher4truth]

Its all liberal/leftist ideology. When all else fails, try to smear those you don't agree with.

I see that ideology in Scripture. King Saul employed what we call leftist ideology.

Anyhow, The Father and the Son reveal themselves to whomsoever they will, not to whomsoever has free will to choose it to happen. Matthew 11:25-30.

 

[TruthTalk]

TruthTalk,

Did you just delete a post? I tried to give a rep to you for it, but it wouldn't allow me to. I refreshed the screen(F5) and now its gone.

Howdy SG, yes I did delete a post. It was concerning this statement about Pastor Mac Arthur. Casting outright lies in a public forum about anyone is not, expressing your opinion", and to make such a foolish statement shows that Jaybird88 cannot tell right from wrong. "Telling lies is not expressing your opinion."

you guys disagreed on macaurther, he is banned and your still here.

does it feel good to report someone and get them silenced for expressing their opinion?​

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