Prosperity preaching Pastor prosecuted, prisoned

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And all he has done was take the OP and derail it into bashing reformed theology. It was not about bashing anyone, as he clearly has done, but expose the false teaching of prosperity teachings. Apparently he's of that ilk, as an old saying goes like this, "if you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that gets hit, yips." He's yipped over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Now, PLEASE butt out beastslayer(Denadii) if you can't stay on point.
Well, now I'm thinking it's Megiddo.
 
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MacArthur is famous for diversion away from himself, so the dark secrets never reach the light.
Except his "dark secrets" have been revealed to you, or none of us would ever know these, um, "truths" about him! :eek:

How utterly asinine! LOL!!!!!
 
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Most Pastors of small to med to avg sized churches here in the USA make a percentage or half the offering. I totally disagree with that.
The above isn't exactly true. Everyone makes a percentage of monies in the end, no matter where they work. The half the offering thing was thrown in for "effect" and for negative connotations imho.

That money should be for the work of ministry of the church not to pay the pastor with.
...reminds me of Matthew 26:9.
 
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Thank you for getting rid of him. Can you also ban ppl's ips on here or just their username?

These goons keep popping up like a pop tart in a toaster.
Oncefallen will be right with you after this short break:

 
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That's really sad. So many are hoodwinked by these guys.



What gets me is one's who say they aren't for prosperity gospel (which was a rather milquetoast reproof of such a deeply dangerous doctrine) instead go on a relentless attack and slander on others and John MacArthur, Reformed brothers, with full on name calling and bearing false witness.

It is of note this loathing has not been demonstrated toward the false prosperity teachers at all by the same. Not even close which is why I don't buy it.

Then we have a couple more go on the assault of those who defended him, even bringing quotes from another thread to malign. Another comes with a general broad brush sweeping of accusations, with no quotes, facts or proofs, and then says he isn't accusing, just asking.

Uh-huh.

I think we get the picture.

This is how I feel about the prosperity gospel:

[video=youtube;jLRue4nwJaA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLRue4nwJaA[/video]
Brother Piper so nailed it. 1,500+ ppl groups have not heard the gospel yet because of the hostile places. These prosperity preachers are too big of a chicken to go there and preach if $ ain't involved.

The christian is called to suffer in this world, not live in the fat lap of luxury. But many want what these charalatans, shysters speak to them. They get their itching ears scratched.
 
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Brother Piper so nailed it. 1,500+ ppl groups have not heard the gospel yet because of the hostile places. These prosperity preachers are too big of a chicken to go there and preacher if $ ain't involved.

The christian is called to suffer in this world, not live in the fat lap of luxury. But many want what these charalatans, shysters speak to them. They get their itching ears scratched.
Yep. Philippians 1:29.
 

maxwel

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. So, why would we expect a preacher to have to hold two jobs?

If Jesus didn't have a side job, why would we expect a preacher to have a side job?

Ummm... because he's not Jesus?

: )



Willie,
I agree with you that it's perfectly reasonable, and biblical, for a pastor to be supported by the flock.

But it just isn't a necessity.

Sometimes there's a good reason for a pastor to maintain a separate vocation:
- Maybe it isn't financially viable to be supported by the flock.
- Maybe the pastor has some ethical need to support himself.
There were times when Paul didn't WANT to be supported by a certain congregation,
because they weren't mature, and he didn't feel it was wise to take their money for fear of accusations.
 

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Why was BeastSlayer1970 banned? For derailing a thread?

If that's the reason, all of could probably be banned. It's VERY easy for something in a post to catch your attention and respond to it, and wind up taking the thread completely OT.

Was he banned for saying something against Calvinism, or John MacArthur? Is that against the rules?

Was he banned for some personal remark against someone? If that's true, again, many of us could be banned, as most of us have done that at one time or another.

What I find ironic and hypocritical is that the two guys gleefully rolling in the aisle over BeastSlayer getting banned are guilty of far worse personal attack posts than anything I ever saw BeastSlayer post, and they're still here. (granted, I may have missed something he posted...)

...just curious as to why he was banned.
 

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Only the mods know.

You'll have to ask a mod.


But I don't recommend it.
from reading some of the above posts it appears that he was a user that was banned before . A check of a IP address by a mod would confirm . It is best like you stated not to question but trust the mods decision. They are very fair in their decisions.
Blessings
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Why was BeastSlayer1970 banned? For derailing a thread?

If that's the reason, all of could probably be banned. It's VERY easy for something in a post to catch your attention and respond to it, and wind up taking the thread completely OT.

Was he banned for saying something against Calvinism, or John MacArthur? Is that against the rules?

Was he banned for some personal remark against someone? If that's true, again, many of us could be banned, as most of us have done that at one time or another.

What I find ironic and hypocritical is that the two guys gleefully rolling in the aisle over BeastSlayer getting banned are guilty of far worse personal attack posts than anything I ever saw BeastSlayer post, and they're still here. (granted, I may have missed something he posted...)

...just curious as to why he was banned.
im guessing he was banned for what he said about macarthur. im familiar with the message macarthur preaches so it makes sense to me.
 
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jaybird88

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from reading some of the above posts it appears that he was a user that was banned before . A check of a IP address by a mod would confirm . It is best like you stated not to question but trust the mods decision. They are very fair in their decisions.
Blessings
Bill
the ones that accused him of being another user have no idea if its true, they just say that to get somebody banned. it works.
 

maxwel

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the ones that accused him of being another user have no idea if its true, they just say that to get somebody banned. it works.

So what you're saying is...

if members accuse a guy of something, the mods are so stupid they just ban the guy without checking things out?


That's what you're saying?
 
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So what you're saying is...

if members accuse a guy of something, the mods are so stupid they just ban the guy without checking things out?


That's what you're saying?

no what i am saying is some people need to grow up and not falsely accuse others to get them banned. if i have a problem with someone i stand up and face them like a man, i dont go running to the report button every time someone says something i dont like.
 

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Oncefallen will be right with you after this short break:

So this is the legendary back room of cc , that secret place were mods fight the battle , this looks actually kinda fun !!! :p