Prosperity preaching Pastor prosecuted, prisoned
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And this is right in your eyes? Is it?
So it is ok to talk negative about fellow members here and not about some "evangelist" that you happen to like. I thought we all agreed not to talk negative about our fellow members when we joined here. I know I did. It was part of the rules I had to agree to before they accepted my membership.
If we post negative in relation to one of our fellow members; are we bearing false witness or lying because we agreed not to post negative things in relation to our fellow members?
I am just asking that is all......
No, you're not just asking, you're accusing.
Posting the truth about a person's behaviors may be negative to you. If you don't like it, don't look at it. And end your accusing of bearing false witness because that is in fact what you're doing in your accusing. You don't know what you're talking about.
That and you need to use a just balance. As of now it is unjust. And the funny thing is you're doing exactly what you accuse, ending your accusations with "I'm just asking" doesn't negate your previous accusations and implications of lying. Romans 2:3.
Posting the truth about a person's behaviors may be negative to you. If you don't like it, don't look at it. And end your accusing of bearing false witness because that is in fact what you're doing in your accusing. You don't know what you're talking about.
That and you need to use a just balance. As of now it is unjust. And the funny thing is you're doing exactly what you accuse, ending your accusations with "I'm just asking" doesn't negate your previous accusations and implications of lying. Romans 2:3.
You continue your unjust balance by deleting out your own negative actions and avoiding them.
Nowhere was there an agreement to avoid all things negative so your accusations are unfounded and misplaced.
The debate is concerning one bearing false witness about John MacArthur of which I directed my attention because the lying was unnecessary.
Let's get back to your first round swing at me here:
What are you even talking about here? Do you even know?
I have defended John MacArthur against lies from one member with proof that he's lying. It's not becoming of a professing believer to bear false witness, slander, then resort to calling others names at the same time.
I called him for bearing false witness, which he in fact did, and of which you in fact are doing yourself. Is that what you're boo-hooing about as being negative and wrong? Or, are you just taking a factless, general swing without any substantiation just because?
Yes. That is what you're doing.
Nowhere was there an agreement to avoid all things negative so your accusations are unfounded and misplaced.
The debate is concerning one bearing false witness about John MacArthur of which I directed my attention because the lying was unnecessary.
Let's get back to your first round swing at me here:
What are you even talking about here? Do you even know?
I have defended John MacArthur against lies from one member with proof that he's lying. It's not becoming of a professing believer to bear false witness, slander, then resort to calling others names at the same time.
I called him for bearing false witness, which he in fact did, and of which you in fact are doing yourself. Is that what you're boo-hooing about as being negative and wrong? Or, are you just taking a factless, general swing without any substantiation just because?
Yes. That is what you're doing.
It is unbalanced to bear false witness and lie. I did not make any direct accusations about anyone here nor have I called anyone any names. To do so is contrary to the agreement we all agreed to when we became members.
To do so is to lie. Is it all right to lie or bear false witness in GOD's eyes?
Is it balanced to spend most of our time making accusations about one another and calling one another names?
Must go to work. Have good day.
To do so is to lie. Is it all right to lie or bear false witness in GOD's eyes?
Is it balanced to spend most of our time making accusations about one another and calling one another names?
Must go to work. Have good day.
I'm still waiting for you to substantiate your accusations. All you are doing is making unsubstantiated and general accusations based on not one fact provided other than your assumptions and words.
Furthermore, as you still falsely accuse, there is no such agreement on CC to avoid all things negative, as in a debate forum, refuting mistruths, bearing false witness happen and will happen.
The only name calling came from the person you are turning a blind eye to. Telling a person they are bearing false witness, lying is not name calling, it is calling them out for behavior.
This is what you're trying to do, yet you have no facts or quotes.
You've addressed exactly no facts I've presented. Not one. That tells me all I need to know.
As soon as you get to real facts, I may talk to you. Until this happens I'm not interested in your unfounded jabs.
Furthermore, as you still falsely accuse, there is no such agreement on CC to avoid all things negative, as in a debate forum, refuting mistruths, bearing false witness happen and will happen.
The only name calling came from the person you are turning a blind eye to. Telling a person they are bearing false witness, lying is not name calling, it is calling them out for behavior.
This is what you're trying to do, yet you have no facts or quotes.
You've addressed exactly no facts I've presented. Not one. That tells me all I need to know.
As soon as you get to real facts, I may talk to you. Until this happens I'm not interested in your unfounded jabs.
The OP was not a Calvinist bashing a non-Calvinist. Its about exposing false teachings. I have a friend whose neighbor donated $10,000 to TBN. Some time later, he was about to lose his house, so he contacted TBN to see about getting his money back. I never heard the outcome.
But now we see a derailment, accusing us of bashing others, when those accusing us of bashing others, are the ones doing the bashing. That's leftist ideology to a tee.
But now we see a derailment, accusing us of bashing others, when those accusing us of bashing others, are the ones doing the bashing. That's leftist ideology to a tee.
That's really sad. So many are hoodwinked by these guys.
What gets me is one's who say they aren't for prosperity gospel (which was a rather milquetoast reproof of such a deeply dangerous doctrine) instead go on a relentless attack and slander on others and John MacArthur, Reformed brothers, with full on name calling and bearing false witness.
It is of note this loathing has not been demonstrated toward the false prosperity teachers at all by the same. Not even close which is why I don't buy it.
Then we have a couple more go on the assault of those who defended him, even bringing quotes from another thread to malign. Another comes with a general broad brush sweeping of accusations, with no quotes, facts or proofs, and then says he isn't accusing, just asking.
Uh-huh.
I think we get the picture.
This is how I feel about the prosperity gospel:
[video=youtube;jLRue4nwJaA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLRue4nwJaA[/video]
What gets me is one's who say they aren't for prosperity gospel (which was a rather milquetoast reproof of such a deeply dangerous doctrine) instead go on a relentless attack and slander on others and John MacArthur, Reformed brothers, with full on name calling and bearing false witness.
It is of note this loathing has not been demonstrated toward the false prosperity teachers at all by the same. Not even close which is why I don't buy it.
Then we have a couple more go on the assault of those who defended him, even bringing quotes from another thread to malign. Another comes with a general broad brush sweeping of accusations, with no quotes, facts or proofs, and then says he isn't accusing, just asking.
Uh-huh.
I think we get the picture.
This is how I feel about the prosperity gospel:
[video=youtube;jLRue4nwJaA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLRue4nwJaA[/video]
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Seriously, dude? Your rational is "majority agrees?" Do you even know God's message? Because majority isn't going to work out too well.
Where do you get off even thinking "he is proudly pushing?" Have you ever even listened to him? Because what he's "pushing" is clearly NOT what you're pushing.
And no one is allowed to make more than you do? By what standard are you judging everything -- your standard? Because your standard looks just like the world's standard. So does your attitude.
Seek the Lord, because clearly you're missing him!
Where do you get off even thinking "he is proudly pushing?" Have you ever even listened to him? Because what he's "pushing" is clearly NOT what you're pushing.
And no one is allowed to make more than you do? By what standard are you judging everything -- your standard? Because your standard looks just like the world's standard. So does your attitude.
Seek the Lord, because clearly you're missing him!
As I have previously stated to you and you are being intentionally tone deaf about.
We are not bashing Calvinists. we are presenting facts that also expose Calvinism and one of it's leaders, John F. MacArthur to be a false teacher, teaching a false teaching called, Calvinism.
Now stop your implied derailment nonsense and stop being intentionally tone deaf, because people are now hurting your little feelers about someone you worship, who teaches a doctrine you follow, who others, like me, find to be a false teacher, teaching a false doctrine of demons and are commanded to warn the body of Christ about.
We are not bashing Calvinists. we are presenting facts that also expose Calvinism and one of it's leaders, John F. MacArthur to be a false teacher, teaching a false teaching called, Calvinism.
Now stop your implied derailment nonsense and stop being intentionally tone deaf, because people are now hurting your little feelers about someone you worship, who teaches a doctrine you follow, who others, like me, find to be a false teacher, teaching a false doctrine of demons and are commanded to warn the body of Christ about.
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Yeah, obviously your very-special-agenda is the only one to agree with.
I really do believe in reconciling with the brothers, but you're no brother. You are here just to present your very-special-gospel -- the comfortably-middle-class-American agenda. You're just out to argue. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Ignored.
I really do believe in reconciling with the brothers, but you're no brother. You are here just to present your very-special-gospel -- the comfortably-middle-class-American agenda. You're just out to argue. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Ignored.
And all he has done was take the OP and derail it into bashing reformed theology. It was not about bashing anyone, as he clearly has done, but expose the false teaching of prosperity teachings. Apparently he's of that ilk, as an old saying goes like this, "if you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that gets hit, yips." He's yipped over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Now, PLEASE butt out beastslayer(Denadii) if you can't stay on point.
Now, PLEASE butt out beastslayer(Denadii) if you can't stay on point.
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